Notre Dame has been ass for decades...MSU absolutely benefited from Mich hiring two idiots, but that's sports, just like Mich benefited from MSU having decades of inconsistent mediocre play after winning titles in the 50s and 60s...and the same way OSU and Mich benefited from the Big Ten being terrible in the 70s and 80s, Auburn benefited from Bama being down, Baylor and TCU benefiting from UT being down, etc. etc.
Luck vs. OSU? We beat a 24-0 team by 10, lost to them by 1 the year before and played in close games with them in all the wins and losses...you can make the arguement that either team has been lucky when the margin of victory is a couple plays....We've beat OSU more in the past 5 years than y'all have in about 25 years lol...
We won 4 straight bowl games...how is that choking? Has Michigan in their entire history won 4 straight bowl games? We had back to back top 5 finishes...I'll let you dig up the archives to again see if Mich has ever finished top 5 in back to back years.
Rose Bowl win>>>beating Va Tech in the Sugar Bowl as the 3rd place Big Ten team the year OSU didn't have a coach, and even that team, Michigan's best team since like 2000 still lost by double digits to MSU...even you cannot deny that fact that Rose>>>...if you can remember back to your last rose bowl win the in 90s...
The best players in that period weren't some 4 and 5 star players that we beat Michigan or Ohio State for, they were 3 and even 2 star players (Leveon Bell, Darqueze Dennard) that were developed. Player development has been the basis of Dantonio's program, not HS all stars, so that won't change anything. You can make an argument for someone like Malik McDowell that was a 5* that maybe he would have gone to Michigan with Harbaugh there...he still turned down Urban Meyer & OSU, same as LJ Scott. We'll still nap guys that want to be Spartans and develop players that will eventually play in the NFL that Harbaugh missed while he's spending the night at teenagers homes.
Don't let hate blind you of all of these facts.
MSU is having a bad year so far, they could turn it around but Dantonio's record the year of breaking in a new QB suggests otherwise...We'll more than likely lose to y'all and OSU.
We ain't going anywhere...like it or not G.
I haven't said shyt about Michigan at all, even after last year I didn't rub shyt in y'all faces...it's y'all that are in the MSU thread and bringing us up as much as possible..I could go on posting crying Michigan fans after the punt return all day...or after the annual OSU beat downs, but y'all lived it so you already know...