The Official 2015 NBA Free Agency/Off-Season Thread

[42 Monks]

So controlling the boards and the pace and thusly eliminating one of the favored offensive weapons of the opponent isn't attributable to defense or the Cavs in general? Gotcha.

GS was so happy to let him post up that they started throwing doubles at him to get the ball out of his hands and changed their lineup in order to try to minimize his impact? Gotcha.

Cleveland didn't have any floor spacers to replace them with that GS would have to give a fukk about therefore it was more so about their depth/level of remaining talent rather than their strategy against Steph.

you just arguing to argue now omg

shot selection + rebounding = controlling pace =/= defense

i don't know how many other ways i can say it lol

and no. they didn't double mozgov. what happened? blatt benched mozgov and stopped playing him together with TT for any significant stretch lmao.

and "Cleveland didn't have any floor spacers to replace them with that GS would have to give a fukk" DUH which is why I said was that LBJ would've had to play center for a small ball lineup in order for any of that shyt to work and it was never going to fukking happen. fukks sake don't ask me to explain shyt that you already got your mind made up on about.

 

[FTBS]

you just arguing to argue now omg

shot selection + rebounding = controlling pace =/= defense

i don't know how many other ways i can say it lol

and no. they didn't double mozgov. what happened? blatt benched mozgov and stopped playing him together with TT for any significant stretch lmao.

and "Cleveland didn't have any floor spacers to replace them with that GS would have to give a fukk" DUH which is why I said was that LBJ would've had to play center for a small ball lineup in order for any of that shyt to work and it was never going to fukking happen. fukks sake don't ask me to explain shyt that you already got your mind made up on about.

Okay pot. The top defensive teams across sports usually control the pace and are cautious on offense but yeah there is no correlation.

They did start to double dude and he started turning it over. It happened, if you wanna act like it didn't that is on you. Mosgov and TT played more together than they did previously. Mosgov usually sat in the 4th even after Love went down.

Breh you said this:

Delly didn't shutdown Curry solo. It was the combo of him and TT blitzing him on the perimeter that made it hell to get a rhythm going. It was a high risk strat by Blatt that kept the series close for a while but it was never sustainable because the cost of containing Curry was murdering his own team's spacing.

And that is what I have been asking about and what you have been avoiding/trying to spin because you and I both know it doesn't make sense and it's not true. nikka straight addressed another statement out of nowhere that I never touched on like he was doing something .

 

[42 Monks]

Okay pot. The top defensive teams across sports usually control the pace and are cautious on offense but yeah there is no correlation.

They did start to double dude and he started turning it over. It happened, if you wanna act like it didn't that is on you. Mosgov and TT played more together than they did previously. Mosgov usually sat in the 4th even after Love went down.

Breh you said this:



And that is what I have been asking about and what you have been avoiding/trying to spin because you and I both know it doesn't make sense and it's not true. nikka straight addressed another statement out of nowhere that I never touched on like he was doing something .

I didn't avoid shyt it was one of the first things I posted.

But you don't even have a full grasp of what you're talking about so of course you missed it
"5) "Having Kyrie allows them to go small" Listen to yourself - a PG's existence is never the make or break of a small lineup. Going small is all about putting abnormal stress on the bigs of the other team defensively. You don't even need to be running SSOL. Without Love, the Cavs literally cannot go small unless they put LBJ at center. And LBJ isn't about that life. Its also why its fukking stupid that they're allowing themselves to get fleeced by the guy. He's a shytty, try-hard version of Faried."

If you don't get how that is a direct response to all this other bullshyt that you've made me dumb down and give the roundabout for then I'm sorry to be the first person to tell you that you don't know as much about ball as you think you do

They didnt double mozgov. his dumbass is just a turnover machine or hybrid engine of inept offense and like any good defensive team they took what he gave them. i don't think you know what a double team is either crashing on a crap post up is not a double team

mozgov didn't even get a full fukking 10 minutes in the pivotal game of the series, the game AFTER he dropped 28 (and got his team blown the fukk out ) but you want to pretend otherwise

you clearly know what you're talking about. as i was

 

[FTBS]

I didn't avoid shyt it was one of the first things I posted.

But you don't even have a full grasp of what you're talking about so of course you missed it
"5) "Having Kyrie allows them to go small" Listen to yourself - a PG's existence is never the make or break of a small lineup. Going small is all about putting abnormal stress on the bigs of the other team defensively. You don't even need to be running SSOL. Without Love, the Cavs literally cannot go small unless they put LBJ at center. And LBJ isn't about that life. Its also why its fukking stupid that they're allowing themselves to get fleeced by the guy. He's a shytty, try-hard version of Faried."

If you don't get how that is a direct response to all this other bullshyt that you've made me dumb down and give the roundabout for then I'm sorry to be the first person to tell you that you don't know as much about ball as you think you do

They didnt double mozgov. his dumbass is just a turnover machine or hybrid engine of inept offense and like any good defensive team they took what he gave them. i don't think you know what a double team is either crashing on a crap post up is not a double team

mozgov didn't even get a full fukking 10 minutes in the pivotal game of the series, the game AFTER he dropped 28 (and got his team blown the fukk out ) but you want to pretend otherwise

you clearly know what you're talking about. as i was

Once again still not responding to the actual point . I straight quoted what I was referencing and this nikka once again points to yet another unrelated point. And then you wanna act like what you said is a response to what I actually said about Mosgov . So in other words you really had no basis and you got too much pride to either admit it or KIM? Not the first or the last . Have fun arguing points that aren't being made while ignoring the one's that actually are because you have no real response on your own breh.

 

[42 Monks]

Once again still not responding to the actual point . I straight quoted what I was referencing and this nikka once again points to yet another unrelated point. And then you wanna act like what you said is a response to what I actually said about Mosgov . So in other words you really had no basis and you got too much pride to either admit it or KIM? Not the first or the last . Have fun arguing points that aren't being made while ignoring the one's that actually are because you have no real response on your own breh.

What point?

Do you even remember what you're arguing?

Mozgov saw less than 10 minutes after his biggest game in the Finals. Why? Because his team shot 4-27 from 3 TT and Moz were never paired again against those same rotations for the rest of the series. In Mozgov's big game, GS didn't even play anyone over 6'9 other than David Lee - and he hasn't played defense in his life.

TT was needed for Curry. Mozgov would've been there to continue to press the advantage on the boards but it wasn't worth it. GS didn't even attempt to guard him.

You're debating this shyt like it didn't already happen

 

[G-Zeus]

1) Spacing was jacked because you're not beating a top defensive team without a stretch 4 in a seven game series. Even with Kyrie dancing on the perimeter, it wouldn't have meant shyt with two guys that can only score through being spoonfed in the paint. TT and Mozgov played better defense on LBJ than anyone else.
2) Mozgov hasn't created offense a day in his life. Scoring =/= creating offense. Every team in the league is happy to ignore Mozgov. Him getting 22 points in a slow slugfest means that LBJ isn't building momentum and getting guys looks on the perimeter where it hurts. A competent offense will take that trade 10 times out of 10 and it'll always work out.
3) The Cavs could not guard GS. At all. They could contain Curry and that's about it. They drug the pace down to give themselves a sluggers chance in the fourth, that's about it. Any time they tried to run, they got blasted because GS is twice as good at it.
4) Goes back to above - going small didn't have much to do with it. Bogut was worthless because there are zero bigs worth guarding on the Cavs lol. That's simply all it was. There was no point in having a 7 foot post-defense specialist on the court when all you're dealing with is Bert and Ernie.
5) "Having Kyrie allows them to go small" Listen to yourself - a PG's existence is never the make or break of a small lineup. Going small is all about putting abnormal stress on the bigs of the other team defensively. You don't even need to be running SSOL. Without Love, the Cavs literally cannot go small unless they put LBJ at center. And LBJ isn't about that life. Its also why its fukking stupid that they're allowing themselves to get fleeced by the guy. He's a shytty, try-hard version of Faried.

But it was a very, very deep series. Most Finals are pretty much telegraphed imo. I haven't been surprised Detroit beating the shyt out of LA effectively ended my childhood but Blatt is a damned good coach to get as much out of that team as he did.

its as you said...

put lebron at the 5.. instead of at the point..

having kyrie means lebron doesnt have to run offense so he CAN play the 5..

but playing point then running and bodying people at the 5..

lets be real...the stress level is jacked way to high

so although your right in general.. your also wrong.. kyries WOULD allow them to go small.. what delly couldnt because he cant create offense

 

[I'm Chillin]

What's the deal with Dorell Wright?

 

[Primetime21]

What's the deal with Dorell Wright?

he waiting to see if a roster spot will open up on South Beach before signing elsewhere

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

Considering Atlanta ended up trading for Tim Hardaway Jr later that night, they probably would've wanted Bradley

even better we didnt do it then. gotta be cautious about helping in-conference contenders

 

[tremonthustler1]

Andre Miller signs with Minny. Like the move. Good to see a couple of old heads here tryna help

 

[NatiboyB]

Andre Miller signs with Minny. Like the move. Good to see a couple of old heads here tryna help

Breh I could be tripping but it seems like you guys may have more than 15 players has any deals for Bennet/Martins/ or someone else been identified did you all buy the dude from the Pacers out?

 

[Malta]

Andre Miller signs with Minny. Like the move. Good to see a couple of old heads here tryna help

Yall seem to be stocking up on PGs

 

[LezJepzin]

Michael Jordan Loses Lawsuit Against Chinese Sneaker Company

 

[loyola llothta]

Michael Jordan Loses Lawsuit Against Chinese Sneaker Company

how tf

 

[tremonthustler1]

Yall seem to be stocking up on PGs

Means Tyus might do some time in D-League

And this means LoBro gonna get cut. Nice try