The November 30, 1994 Quad Shooting - What if it happened for this reasoning?

[Bigsuk]

All the rappers in NYC knew hanging with those dudes wasn't going to end good and they all warned him. He didn't listen and decided to slander Jack. Outside of Henchmen and probably Lil Shawn nobody knew what was going to happen that night. People say the studio like Quad is just one big studio. There's multiple studios there. Bad boy and Lil Shawn sessions were in different rooms so when they make it seem like everyone was in one room plotting on pac that's not true. Nobody put cease on the balcony. The way the quad lobby is set up makes it perfect to ambush anyone. If all the rappers were in on it and they wanted to embarrass him they would've let him go upstairs into the session with Jimmy Henchmen. Tupac did all that extra shyt to sell records and cover up that he had ZERO street smarts.

This …… pac was saving face massively how he handled qaud and the after math ….I think it’s a classic case of someone putting info out that is false or lies or rumours then when they realise they are wrong it’s gone to far to take back what they said … because if pac took back what he said about biggie and puffy n them knowing about the robbery he would have everyone questioning his credibility from then on and what’s truth and lies about what he says … so he just rolled with it …. It was wrong and I don’t think pac actually wanted it to go as far as it did .. but it did and he had to roll with it and add in him signing to deathrow most likely having suge in his ear and suge and puffys issues …..

 

[Complexion]

Lotta dark shadows around Pac through his life that were alternating between stealing his shine and plotting to dim his glow.

 

[⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐]

BMF wasn’t extorting puff. BMF weren’t extortionist. BMF was protecting puff. Why he was always in Atlanta all the time in the early years of bad boy. It’s why there’s a Justin’s in Atlanta. It’s why he felt comfortable enough to scream at Suge to his face in Atlanta. It didn’t go sour until BMF killed Wolf.

So this is the same BMF?


Are we saying that Big Meech probably wouldn’t of been favorable to Tupac?

 

[Knicksman20]

In regard to robbery and it’s aftermath


It seemed like when he was running with Stretch, Stretch and his brother were essentially immediately ready to bow down to his enemies. According to recent interviews there were even calls between both factions so it’s obvious Tupac needed new people around him

This isn't all true. Pac rolled with Stretch & his crew called the Young Gunz from Queens. They were young but live nikkas that were known to get down that always held Pac down when he came to NY; Stretch's brother Maj being one of them & Ed Lover who's closely associated with them as well. When Henchman called Stetch's mother's house & told them (the Young Gunz as a whole not Pac himself) if they were ready for war they needed to get their bread up. Meaning they better move their families from the hood because people were gonna start dying is the reason Pac stopped associating with them.

Pac dropped those nikkas that held him down for years for Suge's team who had bread for that type of situation

 

[DaHNIC82]

This was before Hit ‘Em Up? Then why did Biggie say if Faith had twins she’s probably have “two Pac’s?”

There’s also the financial aspect of this group extorting Bad Boy so it was his intention to destroy the value

I remember this group of people referred to as the Black Mafia … is this the same BMF that’s known for Big Meech?

Wasn’t Jimmy Henchman moving coke on Interscope artist tour buses in recent years?

The vibe article of everyone from biggie, puff, stretch, andre harelll, henchmen talking shyt about him is what escalated it

“The Final Chapter” – Tupac Under Fire: The Saga Continues, VIBE August 1995

VIBE August 1995, Notorious B.I.G., Jimmy "Henchman" Rosemond, Lil Shawn, Puff Daddy Puff Daddy, Stretch talk about Tupac Shakur 1994 Quad Studios Shooting

2paclegacy.net

 

[Ghostface Trillah]

So this is the same BMF?


Are we saying that Big Meech probably wouldn’t of been favorable to Tupac?

Who knows. BMF for what it’s worth was a peaceful and non violent thing. About as much as you could be moving how they moved. They don’t really pick sides in shyt like that and they partied with any and everyone. Suge just understood that if he tried anything reckless with puff he would have some problems he wasn’t ready to deal with. The reason why these rico case’s keep coming is from rappers funding street dudes or street dudes funding rappers.

 

[⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐]

The vibe article of everyone from biggie, puff, stretch, andre harelll, henchmen talking shyt about him is what escalated it

“The Final Chapter” – Tupac Under Fire: The Saga Continues, VIBE August 1995

VIBE August 1995, Notorious B.I.G., Jimmy "Henchman" Rosemond, Lil Shawn, Puff Daddy Puff Daddy, Stretch talk about Tupac Shakur 1994 Quad Studios Shooting

2paclegacy.net

Yes, I remember reading about "Nigel"


As a child I basically revered Tupac as a deity and my father would every now and then throw some shade on Tupac because of this and my father said "When shyt hit the fan for man he blamed his problems on weed"

As an avid cannabis rights advocate this sits with me but I dismiss it as criticism for the sake of criticism

 

[Complexion]

I do think Pacs profuse consumption of weed tipped his already fragile mindstate into the paranoid realm. He was self aware enough to realize this because earlier on it was "I'm dangerous when drunk I only drink beer, gin makes me sin" and this evolved into Hennessy and enemies as he stayed perpetually twisted to numb the pain of the walls creeping in as his fame increased and he became an ever larger target for these leechers and hangers on who wanted in.

Just look at the difference between him when first bailed onto DR when he was still relatively clean and sober in contrast to the screaming madman on his last few tracks in Vegas.

I will say that from my lens there was far more to his beginning and end than the Simple Simon story most people accept of him running up on a banger and getting clipped in the process because he was shuffled around like a pawn on the board of life.

Bishop to Knight. Checkmate.

 

[Bigsuk]

This isn't all true. Pac rolled with Stretch & his crew called the Young Gunz from Queens. They were young but live nikkas that were known to get down that always held Pac down when he came to NY; Stretch's brother Maj being one of them & Ed Lover who's closely associated with them as well. When Henchman called Stetch's mother's house & told them (the Young Gunz as a whole not Pac himself) if they were ready for war they needed to get their bread up. Meaning they better move their families from the hood because people were gonna start dying is the reason Pac stopped associating with them.

Pac dropped those nikkas that held him down for years for Suge's team who had bread for that type of situation

Pac just didn’t understand street politics… he wanted the young gunz to go all out on henchman n his team but like u said henchman was willing to take it there involving family members plus henchman team was strong with money that’s why the young gunz backed off the situation pac saw it as they turning on him or not been loyal but it wasn’t like that pac assuming things miscalculated the situation….

 

[skokiaan]

The vibe article of everyone from biggie, puff, stretch, andre harelll, henchmen talking shyt about him is what escalated it

“The Final Chapter” – Tupac Under Fire: The Saga Continues, VIBE August 1995

VIBE August 1995, Notorious B.I.G., Jimmy "Henchman" Rosemond, Lil Shawn, Puff Daddy Puff Daddy, Stretch talk about Tupac Shakur 1994 Quad Studios Shooting

2paclegacy.net

Lots of comedy in that article ..they tried to warn that breh about them streets and talking too damn much

 

[⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐]

He recorded this for Ron G the night of the Quad Studio shooting November 30, 1994 and Ron G put it on a Big L remix and called it “Deadly Combinations” - it’s said Ron G is related to west coast DJ Julio G

He was meant to record another for Little Shawn at Quad Studio and got robbed in the lobby by the elevator (I’ve been in that elevator circa November 2011)

I believe it was a botched robbery set-up by people that Tupac was running with that were even showering him with lavish gifts like Rolex watches (anyone check the validity of that Rolex though)

Tupac recorded for Ron G for free and was attempting to charge Little Shawn $10K - which makes sense because Little Shawn had an album budget. At first Jimmy Henchman expressed displeasure with this but then called back and agreed on the pricing

Nobody has mentioned until now that Little Shawn was also robbed of a Tupac guest appearance on his project that would probably still help push sales and streaming numbers to this day

But here is the gist of my thread



What if Ron G or someone associated had given wind that Tupac was recording for him for free but wanted to charge them. Personally if I or my crew gave you a Rolex and you wanna charge me the price of the Rolex after you just did a verse for free
I’mma feel like I want my Rolex back

People say that they didn’t take the Rolex off of him but alleviated him of all of his other jewelry as a message … well honestly most hoodlums probably don’t know how to take a Rolex off and probably are unlikely to experience that learning curve at close quarters while multiple guns are involved

My posts so profound and prolific