The NBA has more parity than the NFL. Why aren't ppl watching?

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Trapperman Dave said:
Too many nikkas the face of teams. Most nfl teams have white star qbs :mjpls:
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If it was the case, the NHL would easily be the most popular and most viewed sports league to watch, closely followed by the MLB.

But you are right, let’s be honest, race is one of the multiple reasons why the NFL is more popular than the NBA in America. Overseas, it’s much different. The NBA is more popular than the NFL internationally. The black NFL players wear gear and helmets while you see the faces and bodies of the black NBA players. :dame:

Straight black masculinity is visible, loved, respected and celebrated in the nba while it’s concealed, ignored, tolerated and at best begrudgingly respected/ appreciated in the NFL.

Individualistic team sport( a superstar player plays most of the game and makes a huge impact on the fortunes of his team )versus a Collective team sport ( The shield 🏉🪖) even if you have the best QB, WR, TE or RB it won’t change the fortunes of your teams overnight.

5 starting players vs 11 starting players
A small bench Vs the two platoon system in football/baseball
(Baseball and football have inherently and naturally much bigger rosters than basketball. the strict and exceptional requirements to play nba basketball make sure to exclude 99.9% of males on this earth. Remember there are only 450 players in the entire league. The NBA is the home of the tallest , most agile, most mobile, athletically gifted, most skilled hoopers in the world.)
 
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Marc Spector said:
the leagues popularity has centered around superstars leading dynasties for 40 years. We haven’t seen parity like this since the 70s and the media/casual fan doesn’t know how to react. And the NBA has always had far more casual fans than the NFL.
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This. People love or hate-watch dominant teams. Plus despite not winning it all, Boston being in the Conference Finals every year isn't parity, and they and Dallas are big markets.
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But NBA viewership was low in the 1970s and the Bird/Magic dynasties saved the NBA in the 1980s. :jbhmm:
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So then you're agreeing with him.
 
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IIVI said:
I still think it's the style of game played today.

It's still too many three pointers or at least the stigma of it being a 3pt contest.

In general, outside of the NFL sports has been taking a hit. Do people even know we have a Unified Heavyweight Champion now?
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I think you have a point. 3 point shooting used to be considered more of a European style of basketball that Americans saw mostly in the Olympics. Americans used to see Euro basketball as a soft brand of basketball that was imported into the USA by guys like Pop.

American basketball on the other hand was based on speed, quickness, power, grace and athleticism where attacking the defense was seen as the standard. On top of that most Americans saw American players for several years in college long before they ever became pros, so the brand name of those players were already built into fans heads, which was eroded by stuff like the high school to pros and the one and done rule. In the college football-pro football model fans still get to know the players for years before they become pros and they still love or continue to hate them even after they become pros. I just think deep down Americans like their own style of basketball and they want their American players to play the American style, which is why Americans tune in when we see young players like Ant and Ja. Not so much for foreign players.
 
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Rasille said:
The NBA backed themselves into a corner when they decided to market players over teams. When a player leaves or retires unless they are able to build another star(s) fast enough their product suffers. It’s been 20+ years and they’re still trying to find the next Jordan.
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The NBA has been a star/player league since it’s inception.
 
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Rasille said:
The NBA backed themselves into a corner when they decided to market players over teams. When a player leaves or retires unless they are able to build another star(s) fast enough their product suffers. It’s been 20+ years and they’re still trying to find the next Jordan.
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This.

On top of the player movement with the top marketed players always going to the same teams/city.

Harden, Durant, and Westbrook, 3 of the top players last generation. Started in OKC, went to New York, Philly, Houston, Phoenix and LA. Kawhi, started in SA and briefly stopped in Toronto but ended up in LA. Bron Cleveland, Miami and ultimately in LA. Chris Paul started at NO but then LA, Phoenix, Houston, then Golden State.

It's always the same cities that get stars that the NBA markets.
 
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Copy Ninja said:
This.

On top of the player movement with the top marketed players always going to the same teams/city, fans stopped caring.

Harden, Durant, and Westbrook, 3 of the top players last generation. Started in OKC, went to New York, Philly, Houston, Phoenix and LA. Kawhi, started in SA and briefly stopped in Toronto but ended up in LA. Bron Cleveland, Miami and ultimately in LA. Chris Paul started at NO but then LA, Phoenix, Houston, then Golden State.

It's always the same cities that get stars that the NBA markets.
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The problem is today’s NBA is driven by storylines since joining NBC in 1991. You barely would recognize Dr. J being 1-4 and on the cusp of winning his first finals leading into the intro of his first championship in 1983. Moses Malone was just as big a story.

 
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Samori Toure said:
I think you have a point. 3 point shooting used to be considered more of a European style of basketball that Americans saw mostly in the Olympics. Americans used to see Euro basketball as a soft brand of basketball that was imported into the USA by guys like Pop.

American basketball on the other hand was based on speed, quickness, power, grace and athleticism where attacking the defense was seen as the standard. On top of that most Americans saw American players for several years in college long before they ever became pros, so the brand name of those players were already built into fans heads, which was eroded by stuff like the high school to pros and the one and done rule. In the college football-pro football model fans still get to know the players for years before they become pros and they still love or continue to hate them even after they become pros. I just think deep down Americans like their own style of basketball and they want their American players to play the American style, which is why Americans tune in when we see young players like Ant and Ja. Not so much for foreign players.
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Yeah honestly, the game can be completely different during the play-offs but some people won't care because they've seen some of the regular season and get the overall vibe of the sport. Attacking the basket, playing more athletic, etc. may be a thing during the play-offs but the second a couple three pointers go down, some people will shut down and walk away.

I think playing in college is a great point as well. College basically makes you part of a logo. People still remember the 90's Tar Heel teams, Michigan Fab Five, etc. Some people associate Chris Webber with the Michigan Wolverines more than they do the Wizards and Sacramento. Same goes for Grant Hill, Vince Carter, etc. It could be why Zach Edey has so much love right now because dude is a standout college player and x2 NPOTY. A lot of cats don't want to follow some high schoolers.
 
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