The myth of Wilt Chamberlain's unstoppable offense

[blackzeus]

@The Dankster been smokin' too much dank, did some research, and found out Wilt f*cked his moms, and he was conceived in an orgy by a woman Wilt barely knew. Name one center today (or ever) who can dunk his own free throws Tim Duncan was pushing 80 years old and still dominating in today's league and the guy you are saying wouldn't be able to hang is f*ckin' Wilt Chamberlain of all people. Nikka George Mikan would be a perennial all star in today's league, f*ck outta here and go find somewhere else to deal with your daddy issues.

 

[Goatpoacher]

@The Dankster been smokin' too much dank, did some research, and found out Wilt f*cked his moms, and he was conceived in an orgy by a woman Wilt barely knew. Name one center today (or ever) who can dunk his own free throws Tim Duncan was pushing 80 years old and still dominating in today's league and the guy you are saying wouldn't be able to hang is f*ckin' Wilt Chamberlain of all people. Nikka George Mikan would be a perennial all star in today's league, f*ck outta here and go find somewhere else to deal with your daddy issues.

Tim Duncan is better than Wilt.

 

[blackzeus]

Tim Duncan is better than Wilt.

 

[Goatpoacher]

 

[Broke Wave]

I don't 100% agree with @The Dankster but I will admit, he is a fantastic poster and makes great arguments.

He's the LeBron version of @Gil Scott-Heroin

 

[Gangstar8]

Op is a fool

 

[Draje]

I don't 100% agree with @The Dankster but I will admit, he is a fantastic poster and makes great arguments.

He's the LeBron version of @Gil Scott-Heroin

Dude always comes with facts. One of my more liked posters.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Nikka George Mikan would be a perennial all star in today's league, f*ck outta here and go find somewhere else to deal with your daddy issues.

This is how the old heads think.


George Mikan literally never played sports in high school, wanted to be a priest, some coach saw his height when he was in college and had to give him special one-on-one lessons just to teach him how to move his body in a coordinated manner...and that's your greatest player of the early 50s.

The great center who came next after him, the guy Wilt replaced in Philly, was a 6'8", 210lb White minor league baseball pitcher who decided to "give pro basketball a try" after sucking in the baseball minors for three years.

That minor league pitcher, Neil Johnston, only shot 44% from the field for his NBA career but was named to four straight 1st-team All-NBA teams, won three straight scoring titles, a rebounding title, led the league in FG% three straight years (at 45% shooting ), and led the Warriors to the championship in 1956.

Those are what 1950s HOF centers can look like.


And centers DOMINATED the league back then. The NBA hardly had shyt for guards before Oscar came on the scene, every good team was dominated by a center who they dumped the ball into. Until the key was expanded from 12 feet to 16 feet, tall guys could just stand one step from the hoop and the ball could be dumped into them over and over. THAT is why big men dominated so much in the 1950s and early 1960s, not because they had some special shyt in their grits that made them somehow more powerful and talented than the 100 times larger pool of big men out here today.

 

[Wacky D]

@The Dankster still at it with his randy "legend killer" orton gimmick i see.

i give him props for going hard wit it tho.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

@The Dankster still at it with his randy "legend killer" orton gimmick i see.

i give him props for going hard wit it tho.

All the current guys get it. Look at how much fukking heat Durant, Lebron, Kobe, Duncan, etc. take on here. They be getting killed left and right.

Only proper that the "legends" get a full evaluation just like everyone else, and not this glorified untouchable lovefest.


I don't spout no lies, and I don't play favorites. Magic and Hakeem are on my all-time top-5 and I've given them their dressing down for career lowlights, same to Bird and Wilt in the bottom half of my top-10. Even with MJ, my all-time #1, I've repeatedly pointed out that all his success came in an expansion era with half of it on a team MUCH more stacked than his opposition.

The amount of heat that guys take in this era, with constant social media and message boards and the expectation of playing hard for an 82 game season despite the biggest fastest guys and the deepest talent pool in history, is fair. Only fair that everyone else gets a little too, if only in retrospect.


Otherwise, we have people coming with dumb shyt like the idea that every Black man over 6'10" who was drafted by 1964 would just magically be an unstoppable force in 2017, because magic era dust....I mean look what he did against 6'8" White guys!

 

[Jesus Is Lord]

@The Dankster are you a sports writer?

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Five days after issuing the challenge, everyone on the thread tagged, not ONE of them even tried to answer it. They can only offer excuses for why Wilt DIDN'T show that he could dominate offensively against modern centers with modern rules, not one example of where he did show it.



Here's the challenge, one last time:

For all the guys who want to critique but can't bring anything to the table, answer these three questions:

#1: In which three playoff series do you believe Wilt most clearly proved that he was an offensive force who could not be stopped?

#2: Against which three elite centers do you believe Wilt proved most conclusively that he could dominate the modern big man?

#3: What do you believe was Wilt's greatest postseason run, from an offensive standpoint? With or without a 12-foot lane?


If Wilt is truly the most unstoppable offensive force of all time, if he truly would be scoring 30-40 points/game against today's big men, then there should be LOTS of easy receipts to answer my questions, right?

I mean, we've got a historian, the son of a historian, and the guy who runs the Wilt Chamberlain Archive here, and THEY can't bring receipts?

Instead, we actually got them posting videos of Willis Reed getting an uncontested dunk blocked by the rim and Walt Wesley dropping a rebound on the ground and then running into someone before managing to make an open dunk straight-up.






If you can't come up with THREE playoff series or THREE opposing centers or TWO playoff runs to prove your point about Wilt....

then maybe you don't have a point.

@The Dankster are you a sports writer?

Hell nah, if I were a sportswriter I'd be doing my thing there and not wasting my time posting it here.

I've written for a couple things, but not sports. And in order to get something published it has to get a LOT more polished than the stuff I put out here.

I have played and coached though.

 

[SadimirPutin]

What is most amusing is that the people who are pissed at what Dankster has posted were not around to see these players in person that they would have the bullshyt "eye-test" argument that people like to trot out

There are valid statistical arguments that suggest the gaudy numbers Wilt put up were in fact very shallow

 

[BLAZO da GAWD]

@The Dankster killed y'all nikkas in here

I'm in total agreement with almost every point. These points translate to other sports as well. The dinosaur era, in any sport, doesn't get much love from me to be honest. Not when every sport was diluted with an influx of unathletic white boys, and most players worked actual jobs like millworker and welders when they didn't have a game says it all for me really.