The media has shifted focus and strategy from non stop anti biden to non stop pro trump love in coverage

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it's almost like we should hold the media accountable regardless of who we root for :ohhh:


its almost like the media should be objective and impartial :ohhh:

But the media are not impartial and have never been

Either they are pro republican or pro war (iraq,gaza,afghanistan already proves this) or pro corporation or anti progressives/socialist countries and candidates and so on. There has never been any point in history that the mainstream media have been objective, they have always had an agenda

The topic though is about dispelling the myth that the mainstream media are biased towards the left and all the evidence suggest otherwise
 

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Stop and frisk was self evidently "doing the right wings bidding." :coffee:
right wing meaning gop and trump and trying to get them elected

I absolutely agree that stop and frisk was a racist and republican esqe policy but that wasn't my point at all
 

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But the media are not impartial and have never been

Either they are pro republican or pro war (iraq,gaza,afghanistan already proves this) or pro corporation or anti progressives/socialist countries and candidates and so on. There has never been any point in history that the mainstream media have been objective, they have always had an agenda

The topic though is about dispelling the myth that the mainstream media are biased towards the left and all the evidence suggest otherwise
did you read my post? i know what the media is my post is about what it ought to be

we just need news and information, not entertainment and ads.

only news media i consume is independent and well sourced... shout out intercept and democracy now
 

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did you read my post? i know what the media is my post is about what it ought to be

we just need news and information, not entertainment and ads.

only news media i consume is independent and well sourced... shout out intercept and democracy now
Got you and I agree
 
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it won’t work. if the public fukked with trump like that, what happened on the weekend would have helped him, yet it didn’t.

yall are going to learn that that the _majority_ of the public does not like trump and is tired of him and his movement.
 

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Didn't they just cover for Biden being senile for like 2 years? We all knew it, the debate didn't suddenly reveal it.
But they did flip on him which is kinda funny. They hated Trump for awhile but getting shot at gets you sympathy points I guess. lol
 

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it won’t work. if the public fukked with trump like that, what happened on the weekend would have helped him, yet it didn’t.

yall are going to learn that that the _majority_ of the public does not like trump and is tired of him and his movement.



I think it will help him with his base,maybe a small minority of non Republicans. Its called energizing your base,which is whats important in the final months before an election. We still havent got that black specefic agenda to excite us,or have you forgotten:martin:?

Didn't they just cover for Biden being senile for like 2 years? We all knew it, the debate didn't suddenly reveal it.
But they did flip on him which is kinda funny. They hated Trump for awhile but getting shot at gets you sympathy points I guess. lol


Its really just proof all that yapping theyve been doing was false bravado. Nobody folds that quickly in that fashion. Theyve been telling themselves the same things about Biden that "the haters" were saying. But now in the home stretch,and now seeing it cant just be swept under the rug, The left folded like a cheap lawn chair:mjlol:. How are you upset Biden wasnt able to hide something that he wasnt hiding very well for at least a year now smh?
 

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right wing meaning gop and trump and trying to get them elected

I absolutely agree that stop and frisk was a racist and republican esqe policy but that wasn't my point at all
That's why you have to choose your words with precision on the internet.

Also, don't be fooled by his reported political contributions. There are a myriad ways to fund a candidate that don't show up on opensecrets.org. :usure:
 
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I think it will help him with his base,maybe a small minority of non Republicans. Its called energizing your base,which is whats important in the final months before an election. We still havent got that black specefic agenda to excite us,or have you forgotten:martin:?




Its really just proof all that yapping theyve been doing was false bravado. Nobody folds that quickly in that fashion. Theyve been telling themselves the same things about Biden that "the haters" were saying. But now in the home stretch,and now seeing it cant just be swept under the rug, The left folded like a cheap lawn chair:mjlol:. How are you upset Biden wasnt able to hide something that he wasnt hiding very well for at least a year now smh?
who cares how energized his base is, when it’s numerically unable to get him over the finish line?

trump requires a significant number of independents to win the election. i don’t see that happening, especially with the pick of vance as his vp.

:yeshrug:
 

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News outlets were leaked insider material from the Trump campaign. They chose not to print it​


By DAVID BAUDER

Updated 9:14 AM EDT, August 13, 2024

At least three news outlets were leaked confidential material from inside the Donald Trump campaign, including its report vetting JD Vance as a vice presidential candidate. So far, each has refused to reveal any details about what they received.

Instead, Politico, The New York Times and The Washington Post have written about a potential hack of the campaign and described what they had in broad terms.

Their decisions stand in marked contrast to the 2016 presidential campaign, when a Russian hack exposed emails to and from Hillary Clinton’s campaign manager, John Podesta. The website Wikileaks published a trove of these embarrassing missives, and mainstream news organizations covered them avidly.

Politico wrote over the weekend about receiving emails starting July 22 from a person identified as “Robert” that included a 271-page campaign document about Vance and a partial vetting report on Sen. Marco Rubio, who was also considered as a potential vice president. Both Politico and the Post said that two people had independently confirmed that the documents were authentic.

“Like many such vetting documents,” The Times wrote of the Vance report, “they contained past statements with the potential to be embarrassing or damaging, such as Mr. Vance’s remarks casting aspersions on Mr. Trump.”

Whodunit?​


What’s unclear is who provided the material. Politico said it did not know who “Robert” was and that when it spoke to the supposed leaker, he said, “I suggest you don’t be curious about where I got them from.”

The Trump campaign said it had been hacked and that Iranians were behind it. While the campaign provided no evidence for the claim, it came a day after a Microsoft report detailed an effort by an Iranian military intelligence unit to compromise the email account of a former senior advisor to a presidential campaign. The report did not specify which campaign.

Steven Cheung, a spokesperson for Trump’s campaign, said over the weekend that “any media or news outlet reprinting documents or internal communications are doing the bidding of America’s enemies.”

The FBI released a brief statement Monday that read: “We can confirm the FBI is investigating this matter.”

The Times said it would not discuss why it had decided not to print details of the internal communications. A spokesperson for the Post said: “As with any information we receive, we take into account the authenticity of the materials, any motives of the source and assess the public interest in making decisions about what, if anything, to publish.”

Brad Dayspring, a spokesperson for Politico, said editors there judged that “the questions surrounding the origins of the documents and how they came to our attention were more newsworthy than the material that was in those documents.”

Indeed, it didn’t take long after Vance was announced as Trump’s running mate for various news organizations to dig up unflattering statements that the Ohio senator had made about him.


A lesson from 2016?​


It’s also easy to recall how, in 2016, candidate Trump and his team encouraged coverage of documents on the Clinton campaign that Wikileaks had acquired from hackers. It was widespread: A BBC story promised “18 revelations from Wikileaks’ hacked Clinton emails” and Vox even wrote about Podesta’s advice for making superb risotto.

Brian Fallon, then a Clinton campaign spokesperson, noted at the time how striking it was that concern about Russian hacking quickly gave way to fascination over what was revealed. “Just like Russia wanted,” he said.

Unlike this year, the Wikileaks material was dumped into the public domain, increasing the pressure on news organizations to publish. That led to some bad decisions: In some cases, outlets misrepresented some of the material to be more damaging to Clinton than it actually was, said Kathleen Hall Jamieson, a University of Pennsylvania communications professor who wrote “Cyberwar,” a book about the 2016 hacking.

This year, Jamieson said she believed news organizations made the right decision not to publish details of the Trump campaign material because they can’t be sure of the source.

“How do you know that you’re not being manipulated by the Trump campaign?” Jamieson said. She’s conservative about publishing decisions “because we’re in the misinformation age,” she said.

Thomas Rid, director of the Alperovitch Institute for Cybersecurity Studies at Johns Hopkins, also believes that the news organizations have made the right decision, but for different reasons. He said it appeared that an effort by a foreign agent to influence the 2024 presidential campaign was more newsworthy than the leaked material itself.

But one prominent journalist, Jesse Eisinger, senior reporter and editor at ProPublica, suggested the outlets could have told more than they did. While it’s true that past Vance statements about Trump are easily found publicly, the vetting document could have indicated which statements most concerned the campaign, or revealed things the journalists didn’t know.

Once it is established that the material is accurate, newsworthiness is a more important consideration than the source, he said.

“I don’t think they handled it properly,” Eisinger said. “I think they overlearned the lesson of 2016.”
 
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