shyt like the implied wife beating of Hank Pym, which actually wasn't him hitting her but a missed panel. Is why I got out of Marvel. It was actually one of the few things I liked that was addressed by the Superboy Prime angle in DC. The destruction of heros is still a terrible part of comics today and why its dying in the west, compared to Japanese manga IMHO.
I feel you. I get having flawed heroes, and they did a great job of making genuinely heroic characters that weren't perfect in the 60s/70s/early 80s. After the mid to late 80s a lot of cats started trying way too hard to make every series the next Watchmen IMO.
The Fantastic Four are crazy underrated in general. We like to clown them, but we forget that the original Lee/Kirby run birthed the Marvel U as we know it. They were the first heroes who acted more like people than paragons, and they also introduced Doom, the Skrulls, the Watcher, Black Panther, the Inhumans, the Negative Zone, the Silver Surfer, and Galactus. The X-men, Avengers, and even Spider-man would have never seen the light of day if the F4 hadn't taken off when they did.
