The log of Cristopher Columbus on meeting the natives for the first time.

[dontspeakmuch]

I'm from the Dominican Republic and they actually teach us all this shyt in school along with the beginning of the transatlantic slave trade, but there is so much fukking innate racism in this country that no one sees the Spaniards as the bad guys but more like the founders of this society and our motherland, it's fukking disgusting.

They also ignore the Haitian revolution and jump straight to the invasion of the DR and how they wanted to change our official language and crap like that, no mention of how they freed the slaves in this side of the island, I'm half black so I will always be grateful to the people of Haiti for grating my ancestors their freedom.

keep ya head up

 

[dontspeakmuch]

Of course. Just saying that just because we read something that is from a source deemed credible doesn't mean it is true. Many history books in Eastern Europe were changed during the 1950's to condition children to think of its past a different way or think that their country was a completely different place than it truly was. At least that's what "they" say. There is always an agenda with text and information, I try to use my life as a scope for truth opposed to what people tell me to believe via a book or teachings via history.

no doubt, my answer was more directed toward negro the magnificent saying it comes from a crackpot website

 

[Black smoke and cac jokes]

We need more threads like this

nah what he posted comes from a book a book that I actually was asked to read in school. I was - repped because someone thought I had false info but what I posted I actually learned in a college lecture, the other stuff comes from a book written by a PhD. I'm not saying nobody in here is lying but...

don't respond to ignorance breh

 

[KingpinOG]

This the guy with a national holiday....so disrespectful. The first thing you think about when you see a new group of people is subjugating them.

What did you honestly expect Columbus to think when he came upon contact with the Indians? Europe at the time was the pinnacle of human civilization and the Americas were uncivilized and savage. You don't leave a continent filled with developed cities, technology, advanced learning, etc and come upon backwards people and think they are your equal. Sorry but Columbus never took multiculturalism and sensitivity training classes back them. Judging him by today's standards is asinine.

The fact of the matter is that Columbus was one of the most important people in human history. He helped prove that the world wasn't flat and he brought the shining light of western civilization to the Americas.

 

[KingpinOG]

in school, well here in America more then anything should teach us that Columbus ARRIVED here... he didnt discover shyt, people already lived here.

If you find something that you didn't know existed that is making a discovery you idiot. No one has ever said that people weren't living in the Americas.

 

[dontspeakmuch]

What did you honestly expect Columbus to think when he came upon contact with the Indians? Europe at the time was the pinnacle of human civilization and the Americas were uncivilized and savage. You don't leave a continent filled with developed cities, technology, advanced learning, etc and come upon backwards people and think they are your equal. Sorry but Columbus never took multiculturalism and sensitivity training classes back them. Judging him by today's standards is asinine.

The fact of the matter is that Columbus was one of the most important people in human history. He helped prove that the world wasn't flat and he brought the shining light of western civilization to the Americas.

An interesting perspective, but ur troll attempt became obvious when i read he helped prove the world wasnt flat. People been knew that. Ancient Egyptians knew this just by looking at the sun and moons roundness. Earth being round is evidenced by a ship appearing to sink as it sails across the curvature. and even before Galileo proved it with scientific evidence, the Quran says that earth is round. Why would a Catholic King allow Columbus to prove the earth is round and they killed Galileo for saying the earth is round?

 

[dontspeakmuch]

If you find something that you didn't know existed that is making a discovery you idiot. No one has ever said that people weren't living in the Americas.

Children dont think of the word discovery that way and most teachers say he was the first, a rare few remain neutral or give the whole truth.

 

[KingpinOG]

The hospitality and general friendliness of the Native Americans is something to behold. They willingly gave so much to the Spaniards, and made trades we today would consider lopsided. They cooked for the Spaniards, helped them learn the land/rivers, etc etc etc. Yet the first thing that pops into Columbus' mind is "wow, we could enslave these people." Dude was a sociopath end of story.
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LOL @ this revisionist, feel good bullshyt. Maybe you should read up on the history of Aztecs and the Incas before you talk about how peaceful and friendly Native Americans were. They were some of the most violent groups of people in human history.

I am sorry but there is nothing dumber than the politically correct depiction of natives as a bunch of hippies running around the forest in a peaceful utopia.

 

[KingpinOG]

An interesting perspective, but ur troll attempt became obvious when i read he helped prove the world wasnt flat. People been knew that. Ancient Egyptians knew this just by looking at the sun and moons roundness. Earth being round is evidenced by a ship appearing to sink as it sails across the curvature. and even before Galileo proved it with scientific evidence, the Quran says that earth is round. Why would a Catholic King allow Columbus to prove the earth is round and they killed Galileo for saying the earth is round?

All that is true that is why I said Columbus HELPED PROVE IT.

 

[Matt504]

LOL @ this revisionist, feel good bullshyt. Maybe you should read up on the history of Aztecs and the Incas before you talk about how peaceful and friendly Native Americans were. They were some of the most violent groups of people in human history.

I am sorry but there is nothing dumber than the politically correct depiction of natives as a bunch of hippies running around the forest in a peaceful utopia.

if the Aztecs and Incas were some of the most violent groups, what do you call the Europeans that brought genocide upon them?

 

[dontspeakmuch]

All that is true that is why I said Columbus HELPED PROVE IT.

do i need help to prove that water is wet? How can he help prove what is already known as fact by those willing to accept it?

 

[dontspeakmuch]

if the Aztecs and Incas were some of the most violent groups, what do you call the Europeans that brought genocide upon them?

aztecs did have mad sacrifices though, thats why they were so easy to conquer, all the other tribes hated them.

 

[Matt504]

do i need help to prove that water is wet? How can he help prove what is already known as fact by those willing to accept it?

standing in the rain and bringing your drenched clothing back to the king means you helped prove water is wet.

 

[Matt504]

aztecs did have mad sacrifices though, thats why they were so easy to conquer, all the other tribes hated them.

and the Europeans hated all of them without distinction, it doesn't matter what the natives had going on amongst themselves, an external force (Europeans) reduced ALL of their numbers and changed ALL of their ways of life for the worst.

 

[KingpinOG]

So let me get this straight. Ancient Africans were sailing all over the world......from the Americas to China to the Philippines to Europe????



Let me guess........Africans were the first ones to fly to the moon too, right???