The life and times of Reginald F. Lewis

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"I'd read about him in Fortune and Black Enterprise magazines"


"Reginald who?"

Reggie who?

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*As he proceeds to call and lambaste him.

This is funny. :pachaha:

JJ had a chance to redeem himself among the old guards but failed the test when he chose to have his daughter's wedding at a white church instead of the church that I grew up at.

It wasn't enough for them that she married a black man. It was the choice of church they decided to having the wedding at. That sealed the deal that he was an 'outsider' to them.:pachaha:

*They still tried to get into his parties though.
 

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Reggie who?

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*As he proceeds to call and lambaste him.

This is funny. :pachaha:

JJ had a chance to redeem himself among the old guards but failed the test when he chose to have his daughter's wedding at a white church instead of the church that I grew up at.

It wasn't enough for them that she married a black man. It was the choice of church they decided to having the wedding at. That sealed the deal that he was an 'outsider' to them.:pachaha:

*They still tried to get into his parties though.

I think he lost respect for them when his money allowed him to buy his way into their circles. They didn't keep the "Did your grandfather attend Meharry Medical College?" energy after he crossed a certain financial and social threshold.

Questions about his daughter's wedding. The last name sounds like it's Black old money , but her husband was a former pro athlete. Read that he was a successful business owner. Was he self made like her father, or was he connected to those families and built on family money?
 

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Yeah, I highlighted that part for @The Hon. Stringer Bell because he feels that blacks who "play the game" - dress the part, "schmooze", tailor their activities, things that will position them for success in white dominated elite professions, are somehow inauthentic. Reginald Lewis gave us the playbook and became the wealthiest man of his time.

The game is the game.

This is true, and by coincidence it was a recurring line of dialogue on the show his username comes from. String's partner Avon said it, and lived by it.
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The two characters fell out partly because String thought that he could outsmart the game. He was wrong.

*Also by coincidence, the series was set in Lewis' hometown.



And we got the playbook. If you're ambitious, you're going to use the playbook because in these very elite professions, the game is not going to change. You either play the game or you don't. The problem with String, who has become disaffected because he didn't have the playbook early enough to play the game, or had the playbook but realized he came up short, and decided to opt out of it, is that he denigrates black people who do.

If you decide to opt out and forge your own path, do so. But don't denigrate black people who decided to stay in and play by the rules that have already been set.

This plays out almost exactly the way String's partner called him out on the show.
As far as him or anyone else denigrating Black people here, it's all hot air. It's a psyche job that people play on themselves as a distraction/excuse for things not working out for them in real life.
I never took any of the diaspora war jabs from anybody here seriously, and the "sellout" jabs thrown at others are equally disingenuous and hollow.

When those school loans are due, or when the rent check is due.....you can't pay them with smilies, insults, or acronyms.
 

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I think he lost respect for them when his money allowed him to buy his way into their circles. They didn't keep the "Did your grandfather attend Meharry Medical College?" energy after he crossed a certain financial and social threshold.

Well he didn't technically buy his way into their circles. It was his talent. He started with a job at Supreme Liberty Life Insurance which was helmed by Midian Bousfield, Truman Gibson, and Earl dikkerson who were the 'Power 3' of Chicago's black elite. He had all three of them in his back pocket. They were the ones that gave him their blessings to start Negro Digest at the Supreme office. His mother gave him an initial monetary investment and it was all uphill from there.

Ironically, it was the church of Bousfield and dikkerson (and the church that I grew up at) that the black elites were upset that his daughter's wedding wasn't held at. I don't think that Bousfield and dikkerson cared. dikkerson apparently was present at my baptism. He died a month later.

JJ may have redeemed himself later by choosing to have his funeral done by the "right" funeral home, which was owned also by parishioners from our same church who also owned one of the twelve remaining black banks in the country.



^^^^^Cool Fact: This lady in yellow was a priest at my church and taught me how to waltz when I was an escort for a deb ball. Her family owned both a funeral home and currently one of the 12 last existing black owned banks in the United States.^^^^^^^^^

Questions about his daughter's wedding. The last name sounds like it's Black old money , but her husband was a former pro athlete. Read that he was a successful business owner. Was he self made like her father, or was he connected to those families and built on family money?

You're talking about Mel Farr? That wasn't her first husband. The wedding in question was to her first husband S. Andre Rice.

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As President of M2, André sets the investment strategy and oversees the growth and operations of M2. He founded the firm in 1999.

Prior to M2, André led the Rice Group Ltd. (RGL), a firm he launched in 1986 to identify and organize special investment opportunities for wealthy individuals. RGL created several successful investment partnerships and provided select investment banking services to the world’s largest commodities firm.

André began his career in 1978 as an Auditor at Peat, Marwick, Mitchell & Co. (now KPMG). He worked in securities sales for the Private Client Group at Goldman Sachs & Co. Immediately prior to founding RGL, André was a Senior Project Manager in the Mergers and Acquisitions Department at Kraft, Inc.

André is a member of NASP (National Association of Securities Professionals). Appointed by Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel, he serves on the Chicago Cook Workforce Investment Board. André was previously appointed by Former Mayor Daley to serve on the Regional Transportation Authority (RTA) Board (June 2010 – September 2012), the Chicago Metropolitan Agency for Planning (May 2006 – April 2010), and the interim board of the Metropolitan Pier & Exposition Authority (April 2010 – June 2010).

André received a BS in Accounting, with honors, from South Carolina State University and MBA from the University of Chicago.

This is her daughter, Alexa's, father.

Mel I'm sure was self made. He settled in Detroit but was from Texas. I don't know much else about his family background though.

Edit: It's crazy that Linda still carries Rice's name and not Farr.:lolbron:
 
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You gotta post proof. Because one of the daughters has black kids. So either she married black or adopted black.

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They both married white men. I’m lazy af but you can look up their wedding announcements in the NYTimes. Maybe these are adopted kids or maybe they’re not even theirs, looking at the way they’re posing with the babies.
 

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Well he didn't technically buy his way into their circles. It was his talent. He started with a job at Supreme Liberty Life Insurance which was helmed by Midian Bousfield, Truman Gibson, and Earl dikkerson who were the 'Power 3' of Chicago's black elite. He had all three of them in his back pocket. They were the ones that gave him their blessings to start Negro Digest at the Supreme office. His mother gave him an initial monetary investment and it was all uphill from there.

Ironically, it was the church of Bousfield and dikkerson (and the church that I grew up at) that the black elites were upset that his daughter's wedding wasn't held at. I don't think that Bousfield and dikkerson cared. dikkerson apparently was present at my baptism. He died a month later.

JJ may have redeemed himself later by choosing to have his funeral done by the "right" funeral home, which was owned also by parishioners from our same church who also owned one of the twelve remaining black banks in the country.

Thanks for the info.
I think his decision was based on two things. The location was at an elite white society church for the region, and reinforced his status in larger society. He was one of the most powerful and influential Americans of the 20th century, after all.
What was/is that circle's relationship with white high society in Chicago? Completely different worlds? On the outside, it appears that the Black elite resented being snubbed for the white elite, in that instance.
(LOG mentioned family and circle being angry at him for choosing Princeton for undergrad rather than the traditional elite HBCUs......I see this as being similar)

And , something that came up recently about denominations and social class. Whatever religious tradition his family came out of in Arkansas, might not have been what he followed during his rise and reign in Chicago. He might have been a member of a high profile church, but that wasn't really his family tradition, so overlooking a society church wasn't a problem.

He flouted and laughed at the rules. When I say his money bought his way in, I mean that he went from a position where his recent lineage, skin color, religious affiliation would have been barriers to those circles........to a level where those people had to acknowledge and pander to him. It wasn't like a super high achiever begrudgingly being let into the circle, it was a man pole vaulting his way over the entire circle.


You're talking about Mel Farr? That wasn't her first husband. The wedding in question was to her first husband S. Andre Rice.

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This is her daughter, Alexa's, father.

Mel I'm sure was self made. He settled in Detroit but was from Texas. I don't know much else about his family background though.

Edit: It's crazy that Linda still carries Rice's name and not Farr.:lolbron:

Thanks for the correction/clarification. Had no idea that she was married more than once.

Daughter looks just like her father.The last three times I've made a comment about "looks like" in these circles, I was Jason Terry'd by the adoption reveal, but I'm confident about this one.
 

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Daughter looks just like her father.The last three times I've made a comment about "looks like" in these circles, I was Jason Terry'd by the adoption reveal, but I'm confident about this one.
Now, this is getting spooky.

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Everybody who grew up reading Ebony has seen the Johnson family together in photos dozens of times.
Just 3 minutes ago, I read that Linda was adopted. To my eye, she always appeared to have features from both of them.

I just joked about adoption reveals. WOW!!!!
 

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Now, this is getting spooky.

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Everybody who grew up reading Ebony has seen the Johnson family together in photos dozens of times.
Just 3 minutes ago, I read that Linda was adopted. To my eye, she always appeared to have features from both of them.

I just joked about adoption reveals. WOW!!!!

Lol, I thought you knew this. It is scary, in some of her photos she does look like JJ to me. But yeah, she was adopted when she was 3 years old.
 

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I think his decision was based on two things. The location was at an elite white society church for the region, and reinforced his status in larger society. He was one of the most powerful and influential Americans of the 20th century, after all.

This is true. He also lived a more integrated life than most of the Chicago black elites. The church he chose to have Linda's wedding was only a block away from where they lived in the Gold Coast.

What was/is that circle's relationship with white high society in Chicago? Completely different worlds? On the outside, it appears that the Black elite resented being snubbed for the white elite, in that instance.
(LOG mentioned family and circle being angry at him for choosing Princeton for undergrad rather than the traditional elite HBCUs......I see this as being similar)

Completely different worlds. Which is why I laugh at folks who say that the black elites/boule are looking for white acceptance because, at least in Chicago, the black elites never really integrated and so there were no white people around to glean acceptance from. The South Side of Chicago gets a bad rap nationally. But the truth is, the South Side is a very large area, and the areas that the black elites populated had better ameninities than most other historic black communities in the United States. For one, the grandest housing in the city is on the South Side in the Bronzeville and the Hyde Park-Kenwood communities, where the black elites lived. They have one of the top education institutions in the world, the University of Chicago, in their back yard. One of Chicago's top prep schools, the Lab School, is there. The South Side had riding stables, beaches, harbors with all-black yacht clubs (the oldest black sailors in the country came out of these yacht clubs), golf courses, country clubs, tennis clubs, ski clubs...the South Side had it all in terms of ameninities so there was no immediate desire to go North and intermingle with the white elites. To this day, when I socialize with some members of the Boule, for instance, when they ask where do I live, and I tell them the North Side, the response is always a jokingly "oh, so you up there with all them white folks." So they had it all on the South Side, and because of the historic segregation, they've remained, for the most part, there, because they had access to what some would consider elite ameninities.

So then, the question becomes, why do you need to choose things on the North Side, when we have everything over here? And our things have relevance to us.

It's almost like the side eye many of us give when we find out a well-to-do black person pledged a white fraternity. Is it because they were trying to make a statement of status? Couldn't be that because we have fraternities that have a long history of being dominated by upscale blacks. Same with our churches and other black institutions. Or when blacks try to buy homes in Nantucket instead of the Vineyard, and specifically the Oak Bluffs area. Our things have relevance to us, why seek out things that are not in step with our history, position, and sense of place?

So the black elites couldn't fathom why another upscale black person would make some of the choices JJ made unless JJ was just an outsider and not really part of the group.

The black elites do the same thing that the broader black community does in ascribing black authenticity to certain things. No different in that regard.


And , something that came up recently about denominations and social class. Whatever religious tradition his family came out of in Arkansas, might not have been what he followed during his rise and reign in Chicago. He might have been a member of a high profile church, but that wasn't really his family tradition, so overlooking a society church wasn't a problem.

They were Baptist I believe.

He flouted and laughed at the rules. When I say his money bought his way in, I mean that he went from a position where his recent lineage, skin color, religious affiliation would have been barriers to those circles........to a level where those people had to acknowledge and pander to him. It wasn't like a super high achiever begrudgingly being let into the circle, it was a man pole vaulting his way over the entire circle.

This is true.

...........

Lol, I don't know how we turned a thread about Reginald Lewis into one about JJ.

Though, I'm sure that's what he would've wanted. :mjlol:
 

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That was probably my only hang up about him. And when you hear his wife tell of how he courted and was intent on being with her it makes me think why a lot of Brothers don’t feel like Sisters deserve that kind of treatment and legacy. Same with Robert Smith. Too many smart Sisters out here that could have carried that legacy on but the keys to the kingdom continue to be given away.

My oldest asked my youngest what he has against interracial relationships. The youngest said nothing. But Black women are my preference. Imagine how I’m gonna look pulling up on the family reunion with my Black Queen and my Black kids. Lol Oldest couldn’t even counter with nothing.

It's his life and he lived how he saw fit. His legacy is in his work. Most rich grandkids piss away their grandparents money.

You're not finding any black american woman to stick around while you spend 16 hours a day working breh. No modern american woman will accept that.
 
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