The Late Amos Wilson accurate prediction about the future made me wonder…

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Wanting to get the book he wrote made me think. Remember when Black scholars like Amos Wilson, Dr. Ben, Ivan Van Sertima and other scholars WROTE BOOKS? Back when a panel of scholars, historians, and subject matter experts assembled by a publisher or academic institutions ensured that the work they published met high standards of academic integrity, accuracy, and relevance? Todays “Black leaders” such as “Dr.” Umar, Tariq Nasheed, Charmalgne, provide ego & leadership via bite sized social media clips or being in a room full of idiots who make them look like the only smart one in the room. And thats enough to nourish many who have a short attention span.

We aint gonna make it.
 
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Those folks ain't black leaders. They just have the most media followers.

The scholars that worked with Dr. Van Sertima, Dr. Ben, and Dr. Clarke and were mentored by him still put out scholarship.

Also, you should know after being on this forum that very few black folks here know or are active in any black liberation struggles. Hence why you only see shyt about Dr. Umar et al.
 

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The last 5-10 years have shown that a lot of people, especially black people, think that someone somewhere would make sure shyt like MAGA would never happen, or that it would not be that bad. Like the extent of the evil that can be wrought upon you as a black man these days is someone calling you the N word openly. That somehow since black people suffered before but were "together" is a benefit of racism against us before and now. A lot of these contrarian, "Both Sides", "Off the plantation" black people are in for a rude awakening and they were warned.
 

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Prophetic like speaking from this man.

He didn’t tell one lie either.

Those Asians, Latin Americans, and other “people of color” are just as big of bigots as White folks and are in a lot of cases much worse and we seeing that as they start to get their numbers up here.

I’m not sure what happens moving forward, but at some point things will come to a head. It may or may not happen in our lifetime, but it will happen at some point.
 

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The last 5-10 years have shown that a lot of people, especially black people, think that someone somewhere would make sure shyt like MAGA would never happen, or that it would not be that bad. Like the extent of the evil that can be wrought upon you as a black man these days is someone calling you the N word openly. That somehow since black people suffered before but were "together" is a benefit of racism against us before and now. A lot of these contrarian, "Both Sides", "Off the plantation" black people are in for a rude awakening and they were warned.
Can you clarify your points for me? Might be me being tired. I get the first 2 sentences, but I'm not sure how they connect with the last 2.
 

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Can you clarify your points for me? Might be me being tired. I get the first 2 sentences, but I'm not sure how they connect with the last 2.
I am not sure about here but in spaces like the Black Manosphere Jim Crow had somewhat of a positive light shown on it, because people were comparing marriage and out of wedlock statistics during that time to now. You would hear a lot of, "At least in Jim Crow the black family was strong" or some sort of "struggle brought us together" message.

As far as the last sentence, not only here but in other spaces, there was talk from some black men that voting Republican was going to benefit black people. Also the "It does not matter who is in power", "Both Sides" people were pushing a message that it would not be a substantial difference to us no matter what party was in office. It has been only a week and we can see that is not true and can wonder in horror what is next in these 4 years.
 

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The last 5-10 years have shown that a lot of people, especially black people, think that someone somewhere would make sure shyt like MAGA would never happen, or that it would not be that bad. Like the extent of the evil that can be wrought upon you as a black man these days is someone calling you the N word openly. That somehow since black people suffered before but were "together" is a benefit of racism against us before and now. A lot of these contrarian, "Both Sides", "Off the plantation" black people are in for a rude awakening and they were warned.
Also keep in mind A lot of black people don’t have the free time to spend researching political candidates. From dealing with day to day family stresses, your job and having to navigate the racism there, to worrying about cops harassing you, to being unsure if your doctor is giving you the right care, attorneys who may not have your best interest at heart.

Black people cant mobilize to enact any kind of change unless enough of us get the time and space to think.

Ok check this. The year is 2025. We’ve all been enjoying this Amazon prime benefits. For several years. Where you get what you ordered the same day or the next day. White people have been enjoying this since the first slave arrived in the 1600s. Why go to the market? Send your slave. They created the time for themselves to really think through how to keep the black man in bondage. Let that sink in.
 
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I am not sure about here but in spaces like the Black Manosphere Jim Crow had somewhat of a positive light shown on it, because people were comparing marriage and out of wedlock statistics during that time to now. You would hear a lot of, "At least in Jim Crow the black family was strong" or some sort of "struggle brought us together" message.

As far as the last sentence, not only here but in other spaces, there was talk from some black men that voting Republican was going to benefit black people. Also the "It does not matter who is in power", "Both Sides" people were pushing a message that it would not be a substantial difference to us no matter what party was in office. It has been only a week and we can see that is not true and can wonder in horror what is next in these 4 years.

They are the weakest links to the black community and they are the ones that need to face full accountability for their misleading actions, done in bad faith.
 

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I am not sure about here but in spaces like the Black Manosphere Jim Crow had somewhat of a positive light shown on it, because people were comparing marriage and out of wedlock statistics during that time to now. You would hear a lot of, "At least in Jim Crow the black family was strong" or some sort of "struggle brought us together" message.

As far as the last sentence, not only here but in other spaces, there was talk from some black men that voting Republican was going to benefit black people. Also the "It does not matter who is in power", "Both Sides" people were pushing a message that it would not be a substantial difference to us no matter what party was in office. It has been only a week and we can see that is not true and can wonder in horror what is next in these 4 years.
I cant tell you how disturbed I am at what qualifies as black male representation in these spaces. It’s so under developed, empty in it’s rhetoric. It’s all gut belief and not qualified study.

When I listen to Amos, Dr. Ben, Gil Noble, all the men who came up at a time who carried an academic rigor that qualified them to get a few minutes of media to state a case for Black people. It wasn’t time to be wasted where you know you would have the opportunity to come back again to either cleanup a mistake or see the benefits or losses in ones attempt to go viral.

It’s so empty today and it doesn’t benefit Black people and particularly black men. I cannot describe how unimpressed I have been over black male leadership the past few years. Its unread buffoons one after another. There was nothing like coming of age and having to someone like an Amos Wilson.

These are just the worst of times
 

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Man said that 30 years ago, and was going by the info his Elders had given him 30, 40, 50 years before that.

He isn’t saying anything new, we just have a buncha scared lazy nikkas who think all we have to do is vote democrat every 4 years and that’s all the “fighting” we need to do.

Garvey told us over 100 years ago that these days were coming.
 

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It’s a shame Umar gets the attention he does. All he does is talk loud. No innovations or anything. He is a distrsction

No actual black innovators or black people with initiatives getting the attention even though they are out there
 

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Man said that 30 years ago, and was going by the info his Elders had given him 30, 40, 50 years before that.

He isn’t saying anything new, we just have a buncha scared lazy nikkas who think all we have to do is vote democrat every 4 years and that’s all the “fighting” we need to do.

Garvey told us over 100 years ago that these days were coming.
Garvey said no such thing, as the promises of the civil rights movement had yet to exist.

And no….he didnt have elders to tell him that as elders didnt have a post civil rights movement to come to such a conclusion.


What is it about some of you dudes who try so hard to minimize things?

Marcus Garvey didnt talk about the rise of China to economically challenge the US. Elders werent passing that down. This man had an undergraduate degree from Morehouse, master's degree at The New School of Social Research, and attained a PhD degree from Fordham University in New York. Everyone wasnt passing down the things he was putting down.

Some of you just talk to talk. You posted the dumbest shyt just to bring shyt down to your low level of thinking.

Amos Wilson a Democrat? :laff:

Good God. Such a weak attempt to sound educated.
 
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