Chrishaune
Veteran
My nikka Joel
The Last of Us Part II Spoiler Discussion Thread
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I'm playing on hard, its the most intense game I have ever played and I love the slow burn. Very Wire like, this game has the craziest murders I have seen. Especially when you kill someone or their dog and they get hella heated trying to get everyone to find you. That first major death scene had me like 
in my case I’m just taking a shyt...so I’m just talking shyt to him for now (no pun intended) but ya dude is either trolling or highly irrational...since he hasn’t played the game...he’s now stuck w/ nothing new to say really
ppl who have played the game and didn’t like it or some parts of it were @ least able to offer unique criticisms
Come on breh, you should put that in spoilers for other people, that shyt was a crazy scene tho.
if you have a ps4 get the ps4 version, it has better graphics and gameplay than the ps4 version
Chrishaune
Veteran
I didn't say anything
The Fukin Prophecy
RIP Champ
You ain't sounding like a dikkhead breh, I respect you off the fact you haven't defaulted to incel labeling somebody for an opinion of this game that defers with yours...That is very rare on this forum and I salute you for that...
As for the bold, that would have been just as bad with the same character development Abby had...None of my complaints in this thread have been about the appearance of Abby, I can give a fukkless she walks around like Arnold in Commando...For the majority of my gaming life I have hated playing games as white guys, if protagonist appearance mattered that much to my enjoyment of a game, I wouldn't be posting in this subforum because gaming wouldn't be something I enjoy...My complaints in this thread have been entirely about story and character development which fell short of the high standard TLOU set IMO due to external interference...That opinion is backed by Neil Druckmann's own words in 2013 where he stressed focus on political appearance in video games...
I said this before and I will say it again, I would have been perfectly fine with playing an entire game as Ellie (a feminine gay white woman) and I am confident in saying so would have the majority of the fanbase...That's because Ellie is a well developed character with a place in this story...I asked this before and I'll ask it again, why wasn't Ellie enough for Neil and Anita? I think that's a fair question for any fan of Ellie and this franchise to ask....
so, i initially felt like this, and i still do, actually.
obviously the agenda pushing with Joel being done how he got did (by a supposed tranny?), and them making Ellie the new MC (actually this was in their plans from the beginning, it's obvious if you beat the first and the DLC) then pushing the lesbian ish and Dina being jewish and them pushing the whole zionist victim agenda....there was also an interesting part in the beginning with a black kid and Ellie saying "she hated that kid" (why did it have to be a young black boy in particular? none of that type of shyt is a coincidence, especially in video games where attention to detail in design is paramount)...so there's all the white supremacist liberal propaganda in it, which you can easily catch and sidestep if your third eye is open.
however, in terms of pure game-play, moving games forward as an art, and the technology and storytelling capabilities, this is a landmark achievement.
we live in a system of white supremacy so there's no avoiding the propaganda, and it is going to get worse and worse with time.
but from a purely objective standpoint, the story is great and it's really cathartic to control Ellie as she gets her revenge. it feels like i'm getting revenge myself.
that is what's keeping me playing: to get revenge for what happened to Joel, and to see how it all ends. they've objectively done a great job.
King Jove
King Of †he Gawds
Even though it’s not confirmed, isn’t it basically implied that Abby was transgender? I thought that’s why she had such a connection to Lev (who was also Trans)?
The way they have told this story, it works mainly if you have a second character to play as, I don’t think it’s a case of them thinking Ellie isn’t good enough for a whole game (my bad if I misinterpreted what you meant)
for the best possible experience, play it on normal bro. it's meant to be challenging.
I think Ellie was enough. I think they just wanted to tell a revenge story from two points of view. Abby doesn't seem like she's there cause Ellie is too weak. She seems like she's there to give a face to the bad guys.
It doesn't feel like Neil started with Ellie is too weak lets make another female, now how can we tell a story about another female.
It feels more like they started with, lets tell a tale of revenge and show how the bad guys are the same as us, how can we do that.
Obviously I don't know that for a fact but the latter is the clear focus of the game so it makes sense to me.
When you play as Abby it feels like it's more about exposing your own motivations while humanizing the enemy than it has anything to do with playing with an even stronger female character. The story would've felt virtually the same and hit all the same main plot threads if Abby was a grown man.
It would've removed from the duality motif a little is all.
Thatrogueassdiaz
We're on the blood path now
You couldnt just post this in the arcadium thread. OP?
Brandeezy
Superstar
Damn if only Ellie just stayed at the farm with Dina and JJ. Abby was going to die anyways.
Even then she could’ve still just killed Abby with a gun, instead of trying to fight her with a serious wound. Now she lost Dina, the baby, and her 2 fingers to where she can’t even play guitar anymore.
So tragic.
I think it's obvious, Ellie doesn't want to kill Abby and vice versa
Their stories basically mirror each other
I see people complaining on youtube about lev "how do you have a sex change in the post world so dumb" The kid didn't have a sex change, she shaved her head and pretended to be a boy. Not saying you said anything like that it just reminded me I wanted to comment on it.
Idk how it's implied Abby is a trans. Cause she went from skinny teenager to jacked tom boy? The guy she was dating as a teen still fukked her later on though.