The king of “America Bad” geopolitical analysis Noam Chomsky, likely on his way out.

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The only people that will miss Chomsky are tankies who engage in pointless anti-America pseudo-intellectual genocide denying drivel. Which one conversation with one of you tankies can see why he was your patron saint.
I can tell that you've got a bit of internet poisoning so let me enlighten you a bit:

1. "Tankie" is a phrase developed by anti-Stalinist communists who supported the Hungarian Revolution of 1954, to describe Marxist-Leninists in favor of the USSR. It explicitly excludes Chomsky, an anarcho-syndacalist, and virtually all socialists, communists, and anarchists of the current day.

2. Its clear that no many how many times your assertions about Chomsky are proven incorrect or misguided you will not move on them so I don't think there is any point in continuing this discussion with you.

3. Chomsky has been more right about world history in an hour-long debates with Buckley than you'll likely ever be.
 

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I can tell that you've got a bit of internet poisoning so let me enlighten you a bit:


Remember, as I said about @Toussaint at the beginning of the discussion:

You realize that that doesn't support what you claimed? In our past discussions, it's been clear that you know very little about Asian history beyond what you copy-paste from wikipedia in any given discussion, and you've admitted on multiple occasions your lack of study in the region.


Notice that every one of his comments has been a copy-paste off of social media or wikipedia. He hasn't synthesized anything, he hasn't even summarized anything, he has not been able to explain any context of geopolitical events or of Chomsky's positions. When his claims are challenged, he ignores the critiques because he isn't equipped to deal with them. And, as I pointed out earlier, the issues he's lambasting Chomsky on are ones that he has NEVER shown any concern for in any past posts on the site.

Chomsky spent 90% of his time talking about America specifically, or talking about the use and manipulation of words and information generally. I'll again note that none of his detractors in this thread have dealt with Chomsky's critiques of America at all. None of them have dealt with Chomsky's theories of discourse or any of his major works at all. They are SOLELY focusing on comparatively minor aspects of his 60+ years of work in the public eye because they are not looking for an honest discussion of his beliefs, they are here solely to poison the well of someone who intimidates them.
 

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I can tell that you've got a bit of internet poisoning so let me enlighten you a bit:

1. "Tankie" is a phrase developed by anti-Stalinist communists who supported the Hungarian Revolution of 1954, to describe Marxist-Leninists in favor of the USSR. It explicitly excludes Chomsky, an anarcho-syndacalist, and virtually all socialists, communists, and anarchists of the current day.

2. Its clear that no many how many times your assertions about Chomsky are proven incorrect or misguided you will not move on them so I don't think there is any point in continuing this discussion with you.

3. Chomsky has been more right about world history in an hour-long debates with Buckley than you'll likely ever be.

Language evolves and tankie has grown to encompass all far leftists that carry water for authoritarian organizations that seek to undermine the U.S. government.

“The term is now extended to describe people who endorse, defend, or deny the crimes committed by communist leaders such as Vladimir Lenin,[9][10]Joseph Stalin and Mao Zedong. In recent times, the term has been used across the political spectrumand in a geopolitical context to describe those who have a bias in favour of anti-Western states, authoritarian states or states with a socialist legacy, such as Belarus, Cuba, China,[4] Syria,[11]North Korea, and Russia. Additionally, the term pejoratively describes political activists who are said to have a tendency to be favorable towards non-socialist states and political groupings with no affiliation to socialism if they are opposed to the United States, regardless of their ideology, such as Iran or Hezbollah.”



Given that Chomsky has ran cover for the Khmer Rouge, Serbia, Hesbollah, Hutus, and pushed state Russian propaganda such as invading Ukraine because they were “provoked by Russia” that describing Chomsky as a tankie is apt.


You tankies often over estimate your cognitive abilities, thus your blathering ridiculousness is often seen as some grand take down of the state when actuality you just sound pathetic and wrong to the average sane person, has to why you wield zero real world political power and only succeed in amplifying the far right who politically you are very much aligned.
 

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Language evolves and tankie has grown to encompass all far leftists that carry water for authoritarian organizations that seek to undermine the U.S. government.

“The term is now extended to describe people who endorse, defend, or deny the crimes committed by communist leaders such as Vladimir Lenin,[9][10]Joseph Stalin and Mao Zedong. In recent times, the term has been used across the political spectrumand in a geopolitical context to describe those who have a bias in favour of anti-Western states, authoritarian states or states with a socialist legacy, such as Belarus, Cuba, China,[4] Syria,[11]North Korea, and Russia. Additionally, the term pejoratively describes political activists who are said to have a tendency to be favorable towards non-socialist states and political groupings with no affiliation to socialism if they are opposed to the United States, regardless of their ideology, such as Iran or Hezbollah.”



Given that Chomsky has ran cover for the Khmer Rouge, Serbia, Hesbollah, Hutus, and pushed state Russian propaganda such as invading Ukraine because they were “provoked by Russia” that describing Chomsky as a tankie is apt.


You tankies often over estimate your cognitive abilities, thus your blathering ridiculousness is often seen as some grand take down of the state when actuality you just sound pathetic and wrong to the average sane person, has to why you wield zero real world political power and only succeed in amplifying the far right who politically you are very much aligned.
I'm well aware of language evolution.

"Tankie" has the same sloppy application as virtually any other term utilized by terminally-online miscreants. Do you want to call me a "DEI hire" too, while you're at it?

Perhaps a purveyor of "CRT Marxis?" A "pinko?"

As for the rest of your overly-long post, I truly have no idea what you're talking about, particularly with the far-right piece. I'll continue being the President of my local union, on the board of a local non-profit, and changing housing law in my state, and you'll continue to attack a dying man who is respected internationally for his decades of advocacy :mjlol:
 

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You tankies often over estimate your cognitive abilities, thus your blathering ridiculousness is often seen as some grand take down of the state when actuality you just sound pathetic


LOL at you of all people writing this. You've been caught making factual errors and lacking background in every geopolitical discussion you participate in on here.


- Remember when I brought up the war in Kashmir and you admitted you didn't even know what the war had been about, yet then proceeded to try to correct me but kept getting your arguments wrong because you were misreading the wikipedia entry?

- Or the discussion we had on the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, when you got who made the decision wrong, got the process behind the decision wrong, got the position of American military leaders on the issue wrong, and repeatedly had to change your argument because your foundation kept getting pulled out by reality...yet you still kept positioning yourself as an expert on the bombing?

- Then there was where you claimed that the US oil embargo against Japan was its strong response to the Rape of Nanking, when the oil embargo didn't come until 3 years later and was the response to entirely different Japanese aggressions in Indochina.

- How about our discussion of Communist propaganda during the Korean War, when you repeatedly suggested the Communists were asking Black soldiers to immigrate in when they were actually being asked to LEAVE, and you couldn't understand what you had gotten wrong even after numerous people had corrected you?

- It was amusing when you posted the wikipedia link on Horseshoe Theory without realizing the entry debunked the idea of Horseshoe Theory.

- Remember when you claimed that nonviolent revolutions don't work because all the examples were empires in decline anyway, and your only evidence that the empires were in decline was that the nonviolent revolutions worked?

- One of the best - how about when you claimed that Ghandi didn't become a revolutionary until after WW2 was over and the British Empire was in decline, when Ghandi had already been the leader of the Indian Independence Movement for THREE DECADES at that point and was one of the main factors that put the fukking British Empire into decline.

- You also claimed that if Gandhi had been born in 1860 then the British Empire would have just executed him and he wouldn't have gotten anywhere, apparently without realizing that he was born in 1869 and had agitated against Britain as early as the 1890s.



There are dozens of other examples of you making major factual errors in your political posts (including this thread), but we'll stop there for now. I can't think of a single person who has been wrong on as many different political issues as you are, and yet who keeps coming back and acting like a history expert even though ALL you can do in any discussion is post social media hot takes and then follow them up by misinterpreting wikipedia entries.
 

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I'm well aware of language evolution.

"Tankie" has the same sloppy application as virtually any other term utilized by terminally-online miscreants. Do you want to call me a "DEI hire" too, while you're at it?

Tankies claim tankie is a ridiculous misapplied term yet break out in to hysterics whenever they are called a tankie.

Tankie is like pornography, you know when you see it.




I'll continue being the President of my local union, on the board of a local non-profit, and changing housing law in my state, and you'll continue to attack a dying man who is respected internationally for his decades of advocacy :mjlol:
the “American imperial project” is trembling.
 

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As someone who lives in Asia, there is nothing that Asians hate more than open free trade enforced by the American military. What they really crave is Chinese socialist liberation.


"As someone who lives in Asia" might become my new favorite quote from you. :russ:

It's amazing seeing you trying to position yourself as an expert on "Asia" because you "live in Asia". I'm curious, which Asian language do you speak? As I pointed out above, I've caught you making hilariously wrong history errors on India, Pakistan, China, Japan, Korea, Vietnam, Cambodia....it's hard to imagine which "Asian" country you know something about.

Do you live on an American military base in Asia? And is that the position from which you claim to know all about Asian people? :skip:
 

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Truly insane to distill Chomsky down to tweets 😂😂😂


There's no indication that @Toussaint has ever read a book or taken a course on any geopolitical issue. It's possible he has, but I've never seen him cite one or give the slightest indication of such knowledge in any post. It is ALWAYS just linking social media posts and copy-pasting shyt from wikipedia.
 

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There's no indication that @Toussaint has ever read a book or taken a course on any geopolitical issue. It's possible he has, but I've never seen him cite one or give the slightest indication of such knowledge in any post. It is ALWAYS just linking social media posts and copy-pasting shyt from wikipedia.
Honestly he posts like he’s an A.I. or something
 

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Truly insane to distill Chomsky down to tweets 😂😂😂
The amount of reverence Tankies give a linguists takes on international politics shows that you need someone of Chomsky’s academic cache to give credence to your economic, geopolitical and social policies that have never been applied successfully.

So yes, he’s directly quoting your God who literally called the USA worse than the Soviet Union where you can do this


And not immediately be black bagged and put in one of Chomsky’s “repression centers” that aren’t as bad as Gaza :mjlol:


Cambodian refugee’s “omg they are killing us!”

Chomsky “have you considered you’re CIA? I’m a linguist”
 

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Honestly he posts like he’s an A.I. or something


That's his new cope technique in this thread. He used to engage a lot more in previous geopolitical threads, but he made so many factual and logical errors that he just kept getting his ass handed to him. So now he's staying away from serious arguments or anyone he thinks will discuss the topic and instead is just spamming the links.

Look at his last comment and try to imagine what life experiences that person could have had where they then came to believe they know anything at all. :snoop:
 
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