The “Islamic Dilemma” conversation on PIERS MORGAN?

[2 Up 2 Down]

You can lie to me. Just don’t lie to yourself

So you read the old testament and never questioned anything in it?

 

[merklman]

YOUR DUMB ASS THINKS EVERY JEW IS EUROPEAN



LESS THAN 30% OF ISRAEL IS EUROPEAN (ASHKENAZI) JEWS ... THE MAJORITY IN ISRAEL IS MIZRAHI JEWS (MIDDLE EASTERN) WHO HAVE ZERO TO DO WITH EUROPE

MYSELF INCLUDED

SO BEFORE U WANA BEAT ON YOUR CHEST AND APPEAR INTELLIGENT, MAKE SURE U DONT MAKE YASELF LOOK LIKE A HISTORY RETARD

PALESTIANS LIVIN IN ISRAEL WERENT ALWAYS THERE U DUNCE... THEYRE A BLEND OF JORDANIANS, LEBANESE, SYRIANS, AND EGYPTIANS, WHO MOSTLY ORIGINATE IN SAUDI ARABIA

DO BETTER

Look at your dumbass typing in all CAPs, you're furious and losing your mind is it because the rabbi sucked your dikk?

I'll repeat, go back to wherever you came from you useless sack of zionist shyt.

Are you sure the biggest sub-demographic is Mizrahi? do you want to do your homework, you retarded jackass.

And yes, it is correct that Palastinians living in current Israel have pretty much always been there, far longer than the illegally invading scum zionists like yourself turned up

It's really impressive how you make yourself look stupider with each new post

 

[merklman]

JUST LIKE I THOUGHT, AN ANTI-SEMITIC PIECE OF SHIIT

MAJORITY OF JEWS DO NOT PARTAKE IN THIS METHOD OF CIRCUMCISION, BUT REGARDLESS, GOOD TO SEE THAT UR A TYPICAL PERVERTED RETARD .. WHEN U APPLY SEXUALITY TO A MEDICAL PROCEDURE ITS QUITE TELLING

ITS LIKE SAYING THAT HAVING A PROSTATE EXAM IS GAY FINGERBANGING

THE MIND OF A HYPERSEXUALIZED TEENAGER

SICK

There are no approved medical procedures where the doctor sucks a babies dikk other than what you and your boys are doing

Look at you calling sucking a babies dikk, a "medical procedure". You are fukking disgusting. Stay away from children you freak

 

[merklman]

@2 Up 2 Down my dude above ain’t lying

Just stop clowning read it for yourself and come back, ask questions to the ones you really trust and if you truly don’t feel it then…

It’s like arguing about Breaking Bad against people who only watched BB commercials and YT clips talking about “I saw this video he said he did it for his family! He’s a family man!” Lol

From NASA confirming the blood moon on the date Jesus was crucified to the Lucifer Publishing Company funding the United Nations and prepping a global event for May 2025, you may not believe in the Word but there’s people that run the world that damn sure do (and are going against it, in the very ways it was predicted)

Now this is a good post. But, how about you and the paedophile @sccitand @DoubleClutch take this approach with the quran (or even hadiths . . ) . . . If you did that, you wouldn't be making these wild baseless islamophobic threads

 

[Hov]

Now this is a good post. But, how about you and the paedophile @sccitand @DoubleClutch take this approach with the quran (or even hadiths . . ) . . . If you did that, you wouldn't be making these wild baseless islamophobic threads

The reason I stopped replying to you is because I really didn’t think you were trying to have a real debate/convo, just insult etc.

If you are, I can dump some very clear Islam centric research that I would LOVE to read your thoughts on.

One thing I’m not going to play with on the internet or in real life is my soul and my families lives. I don’t need to be right just to fit a box or what someone tells me or to make jokes on a message board, I need to be right in the sense of eternity (or the lack therof as some believe)

So if Islam was the way, I would be following that way. But it’s indisputably not.

 

[Hov]

I read the old and new testament. Never read the Torah. I read the first half of the Quran and then stopped because it wasn't enjoyable to read

I believe Jesus existed but not the miracles and divinity.

Now we are getting somewhere. You do believe the man existed and was crucified, just not he’s a God. That’s a major leap. For anyone even back then.

Now

Explain the indisputable verified historical evidence written hundreds of years before Jesus was even born predicting his life with unreal precision.

This means prophecies like Isaiah 53, Micah 5:2, Psalm 22, and Daniel 9 were already written and widely circulated at least 150 years before Jesus and in a language used by the GrecoRomans.

The Dead Sea scrolls are dated from 250 BC to 70 AD and prove the Old Testament was not altered to match Jesus life after the fact.

These propehecies have everything from the timing of how he enters Jeresulum (I can never spell that off my head lol) to the way he was crucified and how the guards gambled over his torn off clothes.

Oh yea…crucifixions didn’t even exist at the time these were written.

 

[Sccit]

Look at your dumbass typing in all CAPs, you're furious and losing your mind is it because the rabbi sucked your dikk?

I'll repeat, go back to wherever you came from you useless sack of zionist shyt.

Are you sure the biggest sub-demographic is Mizrahi? do you want to do your homework, you retarded jackass.

And yes, it is correct that Palastinians living in current Israel have pretty much always been there, far longer than the illegally invading scum zionists like yourself turned up

It's really impressive how you make yourself look stupider with each new post

I DONT NEED TO DO MY HOMEWORK, THESE ARE MATTERS THAT DONT RELATE TO U

I AM ISRAELI .. I DONT DO THE WHITESPLAINING THING LIKE YOU MUFUCCAZ LOVE TO DO WHEN IT COME TO MY PEOPLE

ITS A FACT THAT ASHKENAZIS ARE THE MINORITY OF JEWS IN ISRAEL.. NOT HARD TO LOOK UP FOR OUTSIDERS LIKE U

ARABS DEFINITELY WERENT THERE LONGER, U GOTA BE REAL DUMB TO SAY THIS.. THERE WAS LITERALLY A SOVEREIGN JEWISH NATION IN THAT LAND 3,000 YEARS AGO, WELL BEFORE ARABS INVADED .. THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A SOVEREIGN "PALESTINIAN" NATION AND "PALESTINIAN" HISTORY IS VERY LIMITED ON THAT LAND .. ALL THIS IS PROVEN WITH A BLEND OF RECORDED HISTORY + ARCHEOLOGICAL EVIDENCE

 

[Sccit]

There are no approved medical procedures where the doctor sucks a babies dikk other than what you and your boys are doing

Look at you calling sucking a babies dikk, a "medical procedure". You are fukking disgusting. Stay away from children you freak

SO UR DUMBASS ACTUALLY THINKS ITS A SEXUAL THING?



YOU THINK RABBIS ARE GOING AROUND SUCKING BLOODY NEWBORN DICC FOR SEXUAL GRATIFICATION?

LOOK AT HOW YOUR MIND WORKS...

BESIDES THAT, MIZRAHI JEWS PRACTICE SEPHARDIC CUSTOMS... THIS IS AN ASHKENAZI CUSTOM PRACTICED BY A VERY MINUSCULE SECTOR OF ULTRA ORTHODOX ASHKENAZI JEWS. GOT NOTHIN TO DO WITH ME.

BUT THE FACT THAT U THINK OF IT IN A PERVERTED WAY SPEAKS VOLUMES ON YOUR SEXUAL DEVIANCY LIL HOMIE

 

[Sccit]

Now this is a good post. But, how about you and the paedophile @sccitand @DoubleClutch take this approach with the quran (or even hadiths . . ) . . . If you did that, you wouldn't be making these wild baseless islamophobic threads

HOW U GONE SPEAK ON PEDOPHILIA WHILE DEFENDING THE QURAN?

WIT ALL DUE RESPECT, MUHAMMAD MARRIED A 6 YEAR OLD GIRL

 

[DoubleClutch]

Now this is a good post. But, how about you and the paedophile @sccitand @DoubleClutch take this approach with the quran (or even hadiths . . ) . . . If you did that, you wouldn't be making these wild baseless islamophobic threads

You’re scared to take this approach with the Quran and the Hadiths are the biggest problem with Islam it’s self

I don’t think once you quotes your holy books because you’re scared of what’s written inside them

You’re the true “ISLAMAPHOBE”

I challenge you to have an open dialogue on the Quran and Hadith scriptures like we have been doing here with the TORAH, GOSPELS & Jesus.

If you don’t accept you’re a coward.

I even made a thread about a Hadith. No replies? Where are you at?

I just discovered Hadith 1438a. Let’s discuss it

https://sunnah.com/muslim:1438a Preface: can we have a civil discussion on this verse please mods? :manny: Any Coli Muslims want to give me their take on this story? Do you see this type activity as Halal in Islam in today’s day and time? Or is this considered a “weak Hadith” Are accepted...

www.thecoli.com

Fake Muslim

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

Now we are getting somewhere. You do believe the man existed and was crucified, just not he’s a God. That’s a major leap. For anyone even back then.

Now

Explain the indisputable verified historical evidence written hundreds of years before Jesus was even born predicting his life with unreal precision.

This means prophecies like Isaiah 53, Micah 5:2, Psalm 22, and Daniel 9 were already written and widely circulated at least 150 years before Jesus and in a language used by the GrecoRomans.

The Dead Sea scrolls are dated from 250 BC to 70 AD and prove the Old Testament was not altered to match Jesus life after the fact.

These propehecies have everything from the timing of how he enters Jeresulum (I can never spell that off my head lol) to the way he was crucified and how the guards gambled over his torn off clothes.

Oh yea…crucifixions didn’t even exist at the time these were written.

I don't have the time to look up the scriptures the way I would like but I don't think there were ever any question about if the old testament was altered or not outside of general issues of translating to different languages.
The New Testament most (if not all - I would have to check) books were written to have Jesus be the fulfillment of prophecies. I think in Matthew, the author parallels Jesus with Moses to prove he was the Son of God.
But I think reading the Old Testament through the lens of "Where's Jesus" robs the stories of the context and agency in which they were written under.
I think the same can be said when reading the four Gospels through the lens of religiosity and how you can apply them to your life.

 

[Hov]

I don't have the time to look up the scriptures the way I would like but I don't think there were ever any question about if the old testament was altered or not outside of general issues of translating to different languages.
The New Testament most (if not all - I would have to check) books were written to have Jesus be the fulfillment of prophecies. I think in Matthew, the author parallels Jesus with Moses to prove he was the Son of God.
But I think reading the Old Testament through the lens of "Where's Jesus" robs the stories of the context and agency in which they were written under.
I think the same can be said when reading the four Gospels through the lens of religiosity and how you can apply them to your life.

So when Isaiah 53 describes a “suffering servant” who is rejected by his people, silent before his accusers, pierced for our transgressions, and buried in a rich man’s tomb, that’s on record long before Jesus walked the earth.

Same with Micah 5:2 calling out Bethlehem as the Messiah’s birthplace. Same with Psalm 22 describing hands and feet being pierced and lots being cast for his clothing. And Daniel 9 is a literal countdown to when the “anointed one” would be cut off and that countdown lands right at Jesus crucifixion.

These are verified historical texts written centuries before the events, predicting not just vague themes but specific actions, locations, and timing. And in some cases, predicting things (like crucifixion) that didn’t even exist yet.

But the question i need you to answer is: How did that happen?

 

[DoubleClutch]

So when Isaiah 53 describes a “suffering servant” who is rejected by his people, silent before his accusers, pierced for our transgressions, and buried in a rich man’s tomb, that’s on record long before Jesus walked the earth.

Same with Micah 5:2 calling out Bethlehem as the Messiah’s birthplace. Same with Psalm 22 describing hands and feet being pierced and lots being cast for his clothing. And Daniel 9 is a literal countdown to when the “anointed one” would be cut off and that countdown lands right at Jesus crucifixion.

These are verified historical texts written centuries before the events, predicting not just vague themes but specific actions, locations, and timing. And in some cases, predicting things (like crucifixion) that didn’t even exist yet.

But the question i need you to answer is: How did that happen?

You know what’s the glaring evidence that Christianity is true here?

The fact that @2 Up 2 Down has put so much effort and time into his studies of the Bible to prove Christianity wrong and uphold his atheism

And he won’t give the Quran or Muhammad the time of day

That should tell you enough

His relentless opposition of everything “Christian” and criticism of anything Bible related just points to it ironically

It’s makes me wonder what’s driving him?

I thought the whole point of being atheist is freeing yourself from religion and just living your life

But seems like he’s more religious than most Jews/christians/muslims

 

[Koichos]

SO UR DUMBASS ACTUALLY THINKS ITS A SEXUAL THING?



YOU THINK RABBIS ARE GOING AROUND SUCKING BLOODY NEWBORN DICC FOR SEXUAL GRATIFICATION?

LOOK AT HOW YOUR MIND WORKS...

BESIDES THAT, MIZRAHI JEWS PRACTICE SEPHARDIC CUSTOMS... THIS IS AN ASHKENAZI CUSTOM PRACTICED BY A VERY MINUSCULE SECTOR OF ULTRA ORTHODOX ASHKENAZI JEWS. GOT NOTHIN TO DO WITH ME.

BUT THE FACT THAT U THINK OF IT IN A PERVERTED WAY SPEAKS VOLUMES ON YOUR SEXUAL DEVIANCY LIL HOMIE

My brother-in-law is S'faraddi and he sat as סַנְדָּק for my nephews. The mοhel never used a tube, sponge or any medium during the b'ritοt. And in one of the b'rachοt,

...וִיהִי רָצוֹן מִלְּפָנֶיךָ יְיָ אֱלֹקַי וֵאלֹקֵי אֲבוֹתַי שֶׁתַּעֲלֶה עָלַי כְּאִלּוּ קִיַּמְתִּי מִצְוָה זוֹ עִם כׇּל הַכַּוָּנוֹת הָרְאוּיוֹת לְכַוֵּן בְּמִצְוַת מִילָה וּפְרִיעָה וּמְצִיצָה...​

which is similar to our birkat hamazοn for s`uddat b'rit milah according to נוֹסַח הַגְּרָ"א:

הָרַחֲמָן הוּא יְבָרֵךְ הַמָּל בְּשַׂר הָעׇרְלָה, וּפָרַע וּמָצַץ דְּמֵי הַמִּילָה, אִישׁ הַיָּרֵא וְרַךְ הַלֵּבָב עֲבוֹדָתוֹ פְּסוּלָה, אִם שְׁלָשׁ אֵלֶּה לֹא יַעֲשֶׂה לָהּ׃​

See ‘Hilchοt Milah’ of Rav Mοrdochai Eliyyahu זצ"ל (at סדר ברית מילה • אתר הרב מרדכי אליהו), a giant of Torah and a true g'dol hador, with whom I’m certain you’re familiar.

כשיש ברית מילה ביום כיפור אין למוהל לעשות "מציצה" עם יין וכדו', אלא ימצוץ בפה בלא משקה. ויש מקילין בחומץ חזק. ובכל אופן אם אחר המציצה פיו או שפתיו מלוכלכים בדם – מותר לרוחצם׃

לכל השיטות לכתחילה אין לתת את המציצה לאדם נוסף בשבת. ולכן, כאשר המילה נעשית בשבת ולמוהל יש מחלה בפה והוא עלול להדביק את התינוק במציצה, עדיף שימול מוהל אחר. אמנם, כאשר אין מוהל אחר שיכול למול וגם למצוץ, יכול המוהל למול וימצוץ אדם אחר׃​

And Ramba"m (Hilchοt Milah §2:2)

.וְאַחַר כָּךְ מוֹצֵץ הַמִּילָה, עַד שֶׁיֵּצֵא הַדָּם מִמְּקוֹמוֹת רְחוֹקִים, כְּדֵי שֶׁלֹּא יָבוֹא לִידֵי סַכָּנָה; וְכׇל מָל שֶׁאֵינוֹ מוֹצֵץ, מַעֲבִירִין אוֹתוֹ​

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But zeh be´emet lo mafri`a li, nor should it you if you keep near to the heart the Rem"a’s words in the first halachah of S"A O"C!

וְלֹא יִתְבַּיֵּשׁ מִפְּנֵי בְּנֵי אָדָם הַמַּלְעִיגִים עָלָיו בַּעֲבוֹדַת הש"י​