The intelligence of elephants

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They were trained to do all these tricks and stuff, but the degree of complexity of it off of verbal commands and hand signals was staggering. They would do these intricate swimming/jumping routines, or go up to a certain person and stick out their fin like a handshake. They would spit water on people if they were told, then laugh afterwards...like seriously laugh...like people. They'd go up to each person individually and do some silly shyt. And their body language would react off of what people did. It's hard to explain, but it seemed to be a level of emotional interaction that was far beyond basic stimuli-response. When you left, they would all line up and wave goodbye with their tail fins. It just left me thinking it's shameful that animals with this much self-awareness, emotion, and intelligence were in captivity, and questioning the existence of zoos, aquariums, etc.

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This makes me want to go watch that documentary aboutt that killer whale at SeaWorld.

Must be something to be the size of a bus and be subject to whims of a human that's probably smaller than your tongue.

I can see why they occasionally go rogue :birdman:
 

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Be amazed that other animals have developed neo-cortical regions brehs

I hope I'm not the only one that laughed at this.

Killer whales, Dolphins, Elephants and Apes should not be in zoos, anything that can pass a self awareness test has no place in a zoo. shyt is basically prison for them.

I came to say this. look at how self aware elephants can be. For those who want the short version, skip to around the 4:25 mark. the accuaracy and way of which he began the drawing took it to a whole other level for me.

 

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They were trained to do all these tricks and stuff, but the degree of complexity of it off of verbal commands and hand signals was staggering. They would do these intricate swimming/jumping routines, or go up to a certain person and stick out their fin like a handshake. They would spit water on people if they were told, then laugh afterwards...like seriously laugh...like people. They'd go up to each person individually and do some silly shyt. And their body language would react off of what people did. It's hard to explain, but it seemed to be a level of emotional interaction that was far beyond basic stimuli-response. When you left, they would all line up and wave goodbye with their tail fins. It just left me thinking it's shameful that animals with this much self-awareness, emotion, and intelligence were in captivity, and questioning the existence of zoos, aquariums, etc.
I had a similar moment when I was doing research with sea lions in undergrad. Obviously nowhere near the same level of intelligence, but by the end of it all i wished they were all out of it. Zoos do a lot of conservation work though.. :patrice:
 

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Killer whales, Dolphins, Elephants and Apes should not be in zoos, anything that can pass a self awareness test has no place in a zoo. shyt is basically prison for them.
Have you seen the documentary BlackFish...it's on NetFlix. It's about the Killer Whales at Sea World and hwo they're still keeping them there despite how obvious it is that it's a bad idea and with one whale having killed three different trainers.
 

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I hope I'm not the only one that laughed at this.



I came to say this. look at how self aware elephants can be. For those who want the short version, skip to around the 4:25 mark. the accuaracy and way of which he began the drawing took it to a whole other level for me.



That's probably the most amazing thing I've ever seen
 

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That's cool but these chinese c*nts are about to wipe Africa clean of elephants and rhinos. They are driving up ivory prices and actively poaching them.

I wish there were militias to hunt poachers. Or at the very least hit him with tranquilizers and leave them for the hyenas and lions to grub off of, after taking away their guns of course. :yes:
 

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I hope I'm not the only one that laughed at this.



I came to say this. look at how self aware elephants can be. For those who want the short version, skip to around the 4:25 mark. the accuaracy and way of which he began the drawing took it to a whole other level for me.


:ohhh:
 

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I hope I'm not the only one that laughed at this.



I came to say this. look at how self aware elephants can be. For those who want the short version, skip to around the 4:25 mark. the accuaracy and way of which he began the drawing took it to a whole other level for me.



I can't even think of a mind blowing moment as huge as the one i'm having right now watching this
 

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@Malta I feel this way about Lions too. A male liom goes through some real shyt in his life to be able to grow a giant mane. A lot of Lionikkas dont make it to even get a mane. They get kicked out of their own family and have to travel on their own and wander for hundreds of miles just scavenging, learning how to hunt, grinding on their own, maybe sometimes with a close friend or blood brother lion but usually alone. They grind for 3-4 years, fighting off other animals, hunting alone, avoiding droughts and all kinds of certain death including poachers disease etc, until they encounter another pride and an already dominant Alpha Male lion or even 2. This Lionikka gotta fight the nikka for his life sometimes even 2 nikkas let alone the vicious ass lionesses who scouted him out just to take control of his pride.

After that the dude just lives like a king and defends the pride :wow:

It's crazy that they have such crazy lives even for simple ass animals, and some of them live in zoo's from birth to death.

The king needs to be FREE.
 

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@Malta I feel this way about Lions too. A male liom goes through some real shyt in his life to be able to grow a giant mane. A lot of Lionikkas dont make it to even get a mane. They get kicked out of their own family and have to travel on their own and wander for hundreds of miles just scavenging, learning how to hunt, grinding on their own, maybe sometimes with a close friend or blood brother lion but usually alone. They grind for 3-4 years, fighting off other animals, hunting alone, avoiding droughts and all kinds of certain death including poachers disease etc, until they encounter another pride and an already dominant Alpha Male lion or even 2. This Lionikka gotta fight the nikka for his life sometimes even 2 nikkas let alone the vicious ass lionesses who scouted him out just to take control of his pride.

After that the dude just lives like a king and defends the pride :wow:

It's crazy that they have such crazy lives even for simple ass animals, and some of them live in zoo's from birth to death.

The king needs to be FREE.


Yeah fam, I'm opposed to Zoos in general, they aren't about conservation anymore since like everything else in this twisted country they are solely to make money.
 
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