The Great UNC-NBA Downfall: Can We Just Be Reality?
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I can't enjoy a UNC/duke beef without y'all faggits mentioning us
Davis/mkg will be great
Only bust so far in the Cal era is Wall
I would never pick Orton dude is beyond garbage
Hood is great he was on an extremely dysfunctional miss st team last year
Davis/mkg will be great
Only bust so far in the Cal era is Wall
I would never pick Orton dude is beyond garbage
Hood is great he was on an extremely dysfunctional miss st team last year
Note: I am not the bad guy, no more than a shark is the bad guy when he smells blood and attacks. I am simply doing what WE do.
As most of us know, UNC had a 30 year run where it produced 5 HOFs (Jordan, McAdoo, Worthy, Cunningham and Larry Brown as a coach I know, you thought there were waaaaay more, right? Thats that UNC mythology, dogg), many very good, all-star caliber players, from Daugherty to Vince to Stack to Sheed, some solid guys like Felton and Lawson and Hubert Davis, and lots of aight players and semi-scrubs on title squads, like Kenny Smith to Haywood to Scott Williams.
However, since the 1998 draft, they havent produced a single all-star. Meanwhile, Duke has produced four since (Brand, Boozer, Deng and presumably Kyrie) and many solid starters and role players like Maggs, Dunny, Dahntay and Gibles and an aight player (Batty) and semi-scrub (Ferry) on title teams.
Ive always maintained that Carolina didnt have a secret recipe to churning out good players. It was always about Dean Smiths access to the best talent. How can one simply not admit that Dean dominated recruiting for generations? Did he give all those perimeter players 40 inch verts and great hand-eye coordination and basketball instincts? I highly doubt it. I mean, if it was all about what Dean TAUGHT his players, why wasnt Lebo a beast? Why Chilcutt aint dominate? Jr Reid? Lynch? Montross? Bradley? On and On and On. Could it be because those guys were earthbound? Or because they had bad hands? Low B-Ball IQs? Why were the best players from Carolina always the GIFTED ones?
Now, in 2012, it looks as if UNC has produced another disappointingly aight NBA draft class, totally devoid of one potential superstar talent. When will the streak end? I honestly dont know. I see nothing in the pipeline of concern or significance. The best thing about UKs re-emergence as a force on the recruiting sceneactually they are a DOMINANT forceis that they keep guys away from UNC. Ive quietly sat and partied about that, but I must admit its good.
Obviously, I get blown when UK takes a recruit I wanted at Duke, but some of them guys would never go to Duke anyway. But, Duke has its niche with elite white kids (bigs, specifically), nerdy elite black ballers (wings and points) and DA URREA (some kinda weird nerd-goon hybrid whose parents left for the suburbs in the late80s/90s Quinn Cook/Hairston/Dawk/Tyler are just odd to me but Boozer started the trend), so the hit from UK is not having the devastating impact on Duke that its having on UNC. UNC has been obliterated by Coach Cal in recent years. Again its good.
My point with all of this is just to say watching the crumbling of the UNC-NBA myth is one of the most satisfying things Ive ever witnessed as a sports fan. It was utterly disgusting listening to UNC fans drone on and on about how they develop guys and produce superstars, stating it with such authority and condescension, as if it were some universal law that Id damn well better submit to or be ridiculed as not knowing anything about basketball. Nah I was right. And Imma keep talking about this. Some might say Im pressed and Im doing eight much, but you know deep down that Im completely justified.
Just because the tide has shifted, it dont mean Im being pressed. It just mean yall dont wanna play the game no more. You know how many years of bragging I had to listen to from UNC fans? A LOT! And now I'm the bad guy for bringing up what is happening right before our eyes? I'm the bad guy for bringing attention to this? I'm the problem now?
There could be an opportunity for actual DIALOGUE here about player development, recruiting, which programs are the best fits for certain kids who wanna make it to the NBA, but when I used to try to have that conversation I got partied on "NOPE...y'all just produce BUMS...no excuses."
Again...I'm the problem?
Please.
The game is the game.
Oh the hate
Tell me more about how your whole life your favorite team's dream was not winning a title, but wishing it could be Carolina 
Only for us to forever look down on you and be
:notimpressed:
ASAPbakker
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Word? How many they produced so far?
Now Basa, I like how UNC stay on ya mind all the time breh. This is probably the 3rd or 4th time you've made this same exact thread. You declaring UNC's last draft class as just "aight"? ALREADY? They ain't even played 15 games yet
Can't do nothing about that Barnes hype coming out of high school, that was coming from everywhere. I think A LOT of it was coming from dook UNTIL he committed to UNC, then he became "stiff hips" and all that fun stuff. Is it Barnes fault he was hyped like that? No. Was it Austin Rivers fault he was rated higher than Anthony Davis out of high school? As unbelievably wrong as they were to have Rivers rated #1 , it wasn't his fault.
The reason UNC isn't producing "all stars" and "superstars" as you say, its because the rest of the college basketball world finally caught up. The game has changed bruh, you know that. Roy doesn't wanna adapt to the one and done world college basketball has become. Idk what else you wanna hear breh, if you wanna produce "superstars" and "all stars" these days, you gotta succumb to the one and done rule and start recruiting those kids.
Wall, Cousins, B. Knight, Anthony Davis and Kidd-Gilchrist are/will be very good nba players
ASAPbakker
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ASAPbakker
Rookie
what superstars?
look like a whole bunch of busts and average players to me
John Wall (1st, 2010 NBA Draft)
DeMarcus Cousins (5th, 2010 NBA Draft)
Patrick Patterson (14th, 2010 NBA Draft)
Eric Bledsoe (18th, 2010 NBA Draft)
Daniel Orton (29th, 2010 NBA Draft)
Enes Kanter (3rd, 2011 NBA Draft)
Brandon Knight (8th, 2011 NBA Draft)
Josh Harrellson (45th, 2011 NBA Draft)
DeAndre Liggins (53rd, 2011 NBA Draft)
Anthony Davis (1st 2012 NBA Draft)
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist (2nd, 2012 NBA Draft)
Terrence Jones (18th, 2012 NBA Draft)
Marquis Teague (29th, 2012 NBA Draft)
Doron Lamb (42nd, 2012 NBA Draft)
Darius Miller (46th, 2012 NBA Draft)
looks way better than John Henson, Tyler Zeller, Kendell Marshall andHarrison Barnes... who else did carolina have in the last 3 drafts? oh ya Ed Davis the future hall of famer
Stop with the "superstar" talk. That is an extremely rare thing to be. But we've put a TON of great talent in the NBA in the past 3 years.what superstars?
look like a whole bunch of busts and average players to me
John Wall (1st, 2010 NBA Draft)
DeMarcus Cousins (5th, 2010 NBA Draft)
Patrick Patterson (14th, 2010 NBA Draft)
Eric Bledsoe (18th, 2010 NBA Draft)
Daniel Orton (29th, 2010 NBA Draft)
Enes Kanter (3rd, 2011 NBA Draft)
Brandon Knight (8th, 2011 NBA Draft)
Josh Harrellson (45th, 2011 NBA Draft)
DeAndre Liggins (53rd, 2011 NBA Draft)
Anthony Davis (1st 2012 NBA Draft)
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist (2nd, 2012 NBA Draft)
Terrence Jones (18th, 2012 NBA Draft)
Marquis Teague (29th, 2012 NBA Draft)
Doron Lamb (42nd, 2012 NBA Draft)
Darius Miller (46th, 2012 NBA Draft)
PPat is a starter, Wall is a starter, Cousins, Brandon Knight, MKG are all starters. Bledsoe could be a starter on many teams in the league as well.
Anthony Davis is the closest one to "superstar" I could imagine. In terms of total talent put in the NBA Kentucky has shyt all over every other school. The mere fact that we got Josh Harrellson or Deandre Liggins drafted shows how amazing we are.
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Black Duke fans are like Black Republicans.. Even when they make a valid point, you have to automatically disagree to honor the spirit of your forefathers....
what superstars?
look like a whole bunch of busts and average players to me
John Wall (1st, 2010 NBA Draft)
DeMarcus Cousins (5th, 2010 NBA Draft)
Patrick Patterson (14th, 2010 NBA Draft)
Eric Bledsoe (18th, 2010 NBA Draft)
Daniel Orton (29th, 2010 NBA Draft)
Enes Kanter (3rd, 2011 NBA Draft)
Brandon Knight (8th, 2011 NBA Draft)
Josh Harrellson (45th, 2011 NBA Draft)
DeAndre Liggins (53rd, 2011 NBA Draft)
Anthony Davis (1st 2012 NBA Draft)
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist (2nd, 2012 NBA Draft)
Terrence Jones (18th, 2012 NBA Draft)
Marquis Teague (29th, 2012 NBA Draft)
Doron Lamb (42nd, 2012 NBA Draft)
Darius Miller (46th, 2012 NBA Draft)
Why dont you go ahead and place the ages next to all those kids before you label them 'busts and average players'?
NaijaProdigy Redux
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Black Duke fans are like Black Republicans.. Even when they make a valid point, you have to automatically disagree to honor the spirit of your forefathers....
I laughed but
What about DirKelly
meanwhile Barnes starting and averaging double digits...Light and Bright shooting an atrocious 28%
Kelly might catch on with a squad. Who knows?
You proud Stiff Hips barely gettin double digits? Says it all.
Thatrogueassdiaz
We're on the blood path now
Kyrie is an exception to the rule: he could have went anywhere and turned into the player he is now. What Coach K taught him was intangibles: leadership, accountability, decision-making.
Whoever Kyrie chose got the braggin' rights of saying he went to the school.
Roy Williams is going through the phase Coach K already went through: he won't recruit 1 and done players. I think Anthony Wright was the last 1 and done player Roy recruited.
I can see that.
Kentucky CLEARLY has the elite talent on lock nowadays...
Won't last long, so I'm not worried.
Kyle was smart in what he did, and it will pay off in the end.
Mason will probably go top 10 in next years draft. Sulaimon and Hood won't crack top 15, I don't think. Though Sulaimon and Hood are very good. I LOVE SulaimonFreedS[ohh]lave;2246146 said:
I am. I really think we get Parker.
Negative rep
Don't worry we'll take care of FSU in football in the ACC Championship game since Miami self imposed a bowl ban again.
Kyrie is an exception to the rule: he could have went anywhere and turned into the player he is now. What Coach K taught him was intangibles: leadership, accountability, decision-making.
Whoever Kyrie chose got the braggin' rights of saying he went to the school.
Roy Williams is going through the phase Coach K already went through: he won't recruit 1 and done players. I think Anthony Wright was the last 1 and done player Roy recruited.
Won't last long, so I'm not worried.
Kyle was smart in what he did, and it will pay off in the end.
I am. I really think we get Parker.
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Wall is the only one who has been a disappointment. Everyone else is where you would expect them
Cal is gonna have this thing goin for another5 or 6 years. And we will get the next great coach after him. Duke might be back in the slums when K retires