The Great Pyramid, Antarctica & Flat Earth [Discussion Thread]

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And you know because you tried to go there and told you to turn around, right?
Nope

I know that antarctica is literally the only "landmass" that countries don't fight over

Can you please answer my question though? Thanks

Can you scientifically explain the existence of selenelion eclipses?
 
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Nope

I know that antarctica is literally the only "landmass" that countries don't fight over

Can you please answer my question though? Thanks

Can you scientifically explain the existence of senelion eclipses?

I'll have to gather more knowledge of the senelion eclipse before I can provide a scientific answer .

How do you explain even having a lunar eclipse on a flat Earth?
 

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I'll have to gather more knowledge of the senelion eclipse before I can provide a scientific answer .

How do you explain even having a lunar eclipse on a flat Earth?
Cool

I await your logical, intellectual rebuttal of this phenomena, which is scientific fact, recorded over many multiple centuries

Total Lunar Eclipse On Wednesday Will Be a Rare 'Selenelion'





But wait, there are MULTIPLE CASES of selenelion occurring while the moon is still very high in the sky


Once again, I await your intelligent rebuttal to this phenomenon


I believe the phases of the moon are a function of the moon itself that has to do with harvesting/seasons/cycles

I don't think there's any way that the moon could be reflecting the sun's light, especially because of the fact that they are both visible so often during the day time, and if the sun is further away from the moon, yet they are still visible in the sky at the same, then that would mean that it should be impossible to see a full moon during the day, since the moon itself should be blocking part of the sun's light

Yet,
FullMoonInDayLight.jpg
 

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On Oct. 8, Interested skywatchers should attempt to see the total eclipse of the moon and the rising sun simultaneously. The little-used name for this effect is called a "selenelion," a phenomenon that celestial geometry says cannot happen.

And indeed, during a lunar eclipse, the sun and moon are exactly 180 degrees apart in the sky. In a perfect alignment like this (called a "syzygy"), such an observation would seem impossible. But thanks to Earth's atmosphere, the images of both the sun and moon are apparently lifted above the horizon by atmospheric refraction. This allows people on Earth to see the sun for several extra minutes before it actually has risen and the moon for several extra minutes after it has actually set. [How to See the Total Lunar Eclipse (Visibility Maps)]
SELENELION


A selenelion or selenehelion occurs when both the Sun and an eclipsed Moon can be observed at the same time. This can occur only just before sunset or just after sunrise, when both bodies will appear just above the horizon at nearly opposite points in the sky. This arrangement has led to the phenomenon being also called a horizontal eclipse.

Typically, a number of high ridges undergoing sunrise or sunset can view it. Although the Moon is in Earth's umbra, both the Sun and an eclipsed Moon can be simultaneously seen because atmospheric refraction causes each body to appear higher in the sky than their true geometric positions
 

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I believe the phases of the moon are a function of the moon itself that has to do with harvesting/seasons/cycles

Elaborate some more on the phases of the moon and harvesting/seasons having a relationship..

Thats interesting to me..
 

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Elaborate some more on the phases of the moon and harvesting/seasons having a relationship..

Thats interesting to me..
Back in the day, all civilizations literally planted, tilled then harvested their crops based on the moon's phases

Harvest moon
What's the meaning of the phrase 'Harvest moon'?
The full moon closest to the autumn equinox.

What's the origin of the phrase 'Harvest moon'?
Let's start with the equinox, which involves the sun rather than the moon. The equinox is the time when the Earth's equatorial plane is directly in line with the sun. At that time the length of the day and of the night are equal. This happens twice a year; once in the spring, around the end of March and again in autumn, around the end of September.

harvest-moon.jpg
The date of the Harvest moon isn't the same each year, as it is fixed by the appearance of the nearest full moon, which can fall on any date.

For those interested, a fuller definition of Harvest moon in the Northern Hemisphere is "The moon which is full within a fortnight of the autumnal equinox (22nd or 23rd September), and which rises for several nights nearly at the same hour, at points successively further north on the eastern horizon.".

That's the science bit over. As far as the linguistics of 'Harvest moon' go we know that it has been used as a name since at least the 18th century. The English poet Isaac Watts was an early user of it in the lyric poem The Celebrated Victory of the Poles, 1706:

Where flows the fruitful Danube; seventy springs
Smiled on his seed, seventy harvest-moons
Fill'd his wide granaries with autumnal joy.

Of course, the Harvest moon isn't all about the moon; it is also about the harvest. Farmers have used it as a marker in the annual cycle telling them when the growing season has come to an end and when to harvest their crops. The added benefit of a bright moon lengthened the working day at the busiest time of the farming year.

If you happen to see a Harvest moon, (this year (2017) it will appear on 5th October), you may see it as having an orange tinge. That's because Harvest moons are low in the sky and we have to look through more of the Earth's atmosphere to see them. This also has the effect of making them appear very large, although this is an optical illusion rather than an atmospheric effect. The nature of the illusion (which, of course, happens in our minds rather than in the sky) isn't fully understood.

On top of that, the sun/moon/stars are the only reason that we as humans can effectively conceptualize "time"

It's another reason why I firmly believe in intelligent design. I could see if 1 celestial body randomly formed to a perfect point, where we were able to measure it's fixed movements then build clocks from that, but the moon regulates the block of time we refer to as a month, the sun and moon regulate the block of time that we refer to as a day, and the stars regulate the block of time that we refer to as a year

That's multiple bodies moving on fixed paths that match up with each other, and they allow humans to form extremely accurate clocks, and thus do long term things like record history/record birthdays/harvest crops/pay bills/predict menstrual cycles

Menstrual cycles are another major function that I think it closely tied to the moon. A lot of females agree too /shrug
 

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Also the height of the sun at it's highest point in the sky at any given time, directly correlates to the season that any given region is in, which is another way that the sun and celestial bodies help humans understand time and cyclic functions
 

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I believe the phases of the moon are a function of the moon itself that has to do with harvesting/seasons/cycles

I don't think there's any way that the moon could be reflecting the sun's light, especially because of the fact that they are both visible so often during the day time, and if the sun is further away from the moon, yet they are still visible in the sky at the same, then that would mean that it should be impossible to see a full moon during the day, since the moon itself should be blocking part of the sun's light

Yet,
FullMoonInDayLight.jpg

So the moons phases are based on the position of the sun in relation to the moon, but the moon functiins independent of it? Why isn't the moon always full, and why does seem to coincide with where the sun is? Also, from our perspective looking at the sun and moon, you can clearly see that the sun is further away that the moon.

Can you scientifically explain how the moon is producing it's own light??
 

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So the moons phases are based on the position of the sun in relation to the moon, but the moon functiins independent of it? Why isn't the moon always full, and why does seem to coincide with where the sun is? Also, from our perspective looking at the sun and moon, you can clearly see that the sun is further away that the moon.

Can you scientifically explain how the moon is producing it's own light??
No you cannot clearly see that the sun is further away from your perspective. That's an outright lie.

The sun and moon are independently functioning celestial bodies

You BELIEVE that lie, even though during solar eclipses, you can clearly see that the sun and moon are pretty much the same size

In actuality, the moon's phases ARE NOT dependent on the sun AT ALL, which is why the moon goes through all of the same phases basically every month, even though the sun is on a yearly cycle

That's that bs that heliocentrists try and brainwash you with

The moon produces it's own light in the exact same way that the sun produces it's own light, which is why moonlight is not the same color as sunlight

In order for the moon to reflect the sun's light in the way it's supposed to, it would have to be an EXTREMELY smooth flat surface

But we were told by the people who faked the moon landing that there are a TON of rocks/dust debris on the moon. That debris that we were shown would absorb the heat of the sun, not reflect it

And if the moon were really reflecting sunlight then the footage that was "recorded" on the moon should have shown an landscape so luminous that it's almost impossible to see anything at all on it

On top of that, in the "vacuum" of space, there's no atmosphere to "dim the light" of all the other stars, so the entire view in space should be bright af, to the point where noone should be able to see anything

On top of the fact that thrust/propulsion is IMPOSSIBLE IN A VACUUM, but that's another story
 

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No you cannot clearly see that the sun is further away from your perspective. That's an outright lie.

The sun and moon are independently functioning celestial bodies

You BELIEVE that lie, even though during solar eclipses, you can clearly see that the sun and moon are pretty much the same size

In actuality, the moon's phases ARE NOT dependent on the sun AT ALL, which is why the moon goes through all of the same phases basically every month, even though the sun is on a yearly cycle

That's that bs that heliocentrists try and brainwash you with

The moon produces it's own light in the exact same way that the sun produces it's own light, which is why moonlight is not the same color as sunlight

In order for the moon to reflect the sun's light in the way it's supposed to, it would have to be an EXTREMELY smooth flat surface

But we were told by the people who faked the moon landing that there are a TON of rocks/dust debris on the moon. That debris that we were shown would absorb the heat of the sun, not reflect it

And if the moon were really reflecting sunlight then the footage that was "recorded" on the moon should have shown an landscape so luminous that it's almost impossible to see anything at all on it

On top of that, in the "vacuum" of space, there's no atmosphere to "dim the light" of all the other stars, so the entire view in space should be bright af, to the point where noone should be able to see anything

On top of the fact that thrust/propulsion is IMPOSSIBLE IN A VACUUM, but that's another story

You don't have to "believe" anytjing, just look up at the sky and let your eyes tell you what's going on. You can clearly see that the moon is closer to earth that the sun, hence a solar eclipse, yet you can also see that the sun is big enough produce a lunar eclipse. So taking into account those two scenerios, we can conclude that the sun is bigger than the earth. Also, the moon is infact reflecting the same color as the sun, which is a white light, so actually YOU believe the lie that the sun is yellow.
 

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You don't have to "believe" anytjing, just look up at the sky and let your eyes tell you what's going on. You can clearly see that the moon is closer to earth that the sun, hence a solar eclipse, yet you can also see that the sun is big enough produce a lunar eclipse. So taking into account those two scenerios, we can conclude that the sun is bigger than the earth. Also, the moon is infact reflecting the same color as the sun, which is a white light, so actually YOU believe the lie that the sun is yellow.
Once again, if you walked up to a child and asked them if the sun and moon were the same size, they would say yes

Your senses DO NOT tell you that they're different sizes. A random "scientist" did

And again, its counterintuitive and disingenuous to say "I observe them as different sizes" when you RARELY if EVER look directly at the sun, AND eclipses CLEARLY show both light sources as being similar in size, so please dont do that

Also, where did I say the sun was yellow??
 
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