"The GOAT Black City" The Official: ATL Discussion Thread

[staticshock]

So I just bought a house on the south side in Fairburn after living in an apartment in Sandy Springs for the last 7 years.

I’m pretty close to Old National. My question may sound blasphemous but I’m genuinely curious, but what’s so special about Old National compared to other main streets in metro atl? I’ve heard about this street all my life in music and what not but it’s hard to tell the history of it and it’s importance just by driving down it.

There’s no real importance lol. The importance of it is nikka shyt. Robberies, drug deals, murders, prostitution & everything else associated with a low income, high crime area.

Fairburn is cool tho. Lot of black wealth there & south Fulton

 

[staticshock]

South Fulton was never all black and Cascade is the border between Atlanta and South Fulton so...

The closer you get to Cobb or Coweta, the whiter it gets. There no black epicenter in Coweta, pockets of black all over Newnan and the County. My father's family been living by the Country Club since the 70s

Bro south Fulton is the blackest city in metro Atlanta lol

 

[daemonova]

Bro south Fulton is the blackest city in metro Atlanta lol

This city in SOUTH FULTON is 68% white.

Chattahoochee Hills, Georgia - Wikipedia

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You ppl love to parachute in a thread and tell me I'm wrong, but you don't know what you don't know.

I used to drive up Cascade Palmetto to go to the strip club, for the most part, that's a white ass road.

 

[daemonova]

@staticshock where you at?

 

[Sauce and Footwork]

So I just bought a house on the south side in Fairburn after living in an apartment in Sandy Springs for the last 7 years.

I’m pretty close to Old National. My question may sound blasphemous but I’m genuinely curious, but what’s so special about Old National compared to other main streets in metro atl? I’ve heard about this street all my life in music and what not but it’s hard to tell the history of it and it’s importance just by driving down it.

I see a lot of people responded to you, so not trying to be repetitive. But another way to look at it is old nat is the equivalent of what glenwood is to people on the east side . It’s a long ass road that connects to all the other known roads on those parts of town…with some food spots , clubs, and value malls like some of them said. Mainly both glenwood and old nat just have a lot of rappers that come from them areas. So we all know em.. Usually the raps ain’t about a lot of positive stuff lol. Outside the food and park gatherings. They just both big long roads that most people on those sides of town have to travel down to reach the other main roads when you don’t wanna take the highway exits. Like travel hubs that stay busy

 

[AVXL]

@AVXL you from the 4 right?

Me & my girl have an air bnb in Oakland City..we’ve been to the Kroger on cascade a few times this weekend & it was surprisingly diverse in there. When did white folks & Hispanics started living on Cascade

The quick answer is the expansion of the Beltline on the Westside. The trail runs parallel to Ralph David Abernathy as it runs into the Kroger parking lot on Cascade Ave, near I-20 so it’s been rapid transformation of that neighborhood over the last 10-15 years. My mom stays in Westview now so property values over there have skyrocketed as well. They got 500-600K homes over there but they’ve gentrified a lot us out in the process

 

[Pure Water]

This city in SOUTH FULTON is 68% white.

Chattahoochee Hills, Georgia - Wikipedia

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You ppl love to parachute in a thread and tell me I'm wrong, but you don't know what you don't know.

I used to drive up Cascade Palmetto to go to the strip club, for the most part, that's a white ass road.

nikka that shyt says Chatahoochie Hills, not South Fulton.

South Fulton is 90% black.

South Fulton, Georgia - Wikipedia

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South Fulton is a city. We're not talking about the area.

 

[daemonova]

nikka that shyt says Chatahoochie Hills, not South Fulton.

South Fulton is 90% black.

South Fulton, Georgia - Wikipedia

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South Fulton is a city. We're not talking about the area.

He said the area of Cascade road which turns or dead ends into Fulton industrial and turns into Cascade Palmetto. At no point did he specify city or South Fulton county. By his own statements, there are a lot of whites in South Fulton County. I never said South fulton was majority white, I said it wasn't all black.


I brought up Chattahoochee hills because yo friend said South Fulton is the blackest thing out there, it's 12:15. But the dudes Original statement said it wasn't.

 

[AVXL]

So I just bought a house on the south side in Fairburn after living in an apartment in Sandy Springs for the last 7 years.

I’m pretty close to Old National. My question may sound blasphemous but I’m genuinely curious, but what’s so special about Old National compared to other main streets in metro atl? I’ve heard about this street all my life in music and what not but it’s hard to tell the history of it and it’s importance just by driving down it.

I mean, once upon a time, the Southside used to be one of the most desirable neighborhoods in the metro area. When I was younger, living on the Southside (Old National, Riverdale, Jonesboro) was a flex, it usually meant you were a homeowner and could get a pretty decent house at a good price.

A few things changed the desirability of place like Old National on the Southside

1. Rapid expansion of Hartsfield Jackson has turned a lot of available land into parking lots, runways and other airport related needs. Lowered the amount of high quality land that typically would’ve been available for housing

2. End of federally funded public housing in Atlanta from post Olympics to early 2000s displaced thousands of black Atlantans over that time span to low income housing (ie Section 8) that Old National, College Park and other parts of the Southside had available. Lowered the tax base, crime got worse, schools got worse, businesses started moving out, etc. This also coincided with demographic shifts to the Southside which became predominantly black neighborhoods (communities like East Point, Hapeville, College Park, Forest Park, Jonesboro, etc)

So a lot has shifted over the last 30-40 years, alotta the music you’ve heard talking about College Park and Old National were when that shift was happening in real time

 

[AVXL]

South Fulton was never all black and Cascade is the border between Atlanta and South Fulton so...

The closer you get to Cobb or Coweta, the whiter it gets. There no black epicenter in Coweta, pockets of black all over Newnan and the County. My father's family been living by the Country Club since the 70s

I assumed @staticshock is referring to the Kroger on Cascade Ave not Cascade by 285. The Cascade by 285 in South Fulton is less diverse than the one on Cascade Ave by the Beltline but South Fulton is very black, IDK the exact percentage but its a super majority black city

 

[daemonova]

I assumed @staticshock is referring to the Kroger on Cascade Ave not Cascade by 285. The Cascade by 285 in South Fulton is less diverse than the one on Cascade Ave by the Beltline but South Fulton is very black, IDK the exact percentage but its a super majority black city

Cascade ave = Atlanta
Cascade Rd = South Fulton (whatever)

No one doubts the blackness of Atlanta

 

[daemonova]

. By his own statements, there are a lot of whites in South Fulton County. I never said South fulton was majority white, I said it wasn't all black.

 

[staticshock]

The quick answer is the expansion of the Beltline on the Westside. The trail runs parallel to Ralph David Abernathy as it runs into the Kroger parking lot on Cascade Ave, near I-20 so it’s been rapid transformation of that neighborhood over the last 10-15 years. My mom stays in Westview now so property values over there have skyrocketed as well. They got 500-600K homes over there but they’ve gentrified a lot us out in the process

Damn I didn’t know that..I never really hang out in SW ATL i always thought this area was still like the old Atlanta

Cascade ave = Atlanta
Cascade Rd = South Fulton (whatever)

No one doubts the blackness of Atlanta

Yea bruh I’m not talking about the Kroger by Mays..I’m near Therrell & Tri Cities

 

[The_Sheff]

I mean, once upon a time, the Southside used to be one of the most desirable neighborhoods in the metro area. When I was younger, living on the Southside (Old National, Riverdale, Jonesboro) was a flex, it usually meant you were a homeowner and could get a pretty decent house at a good price.

A few things changed the desirability of place like Old National on the Southside

1. Rapid expansion of Hartsfield Jackson has turned a lot of available land into parking lots, runways and other airport related needs. Lowered the amount of high quality land that typically would’ve been available for housing

2. End of federally funded public housing in Atlanta from post Olympics to early 2000s displaced thousands of black Atlantans over that time span to low income housing (ie Section 8) that Old National, College Park and other parts of the Southside had available. Lowered the tax base, crime got worse, schools got worse, businesses started moving out, etc. This also coincided with demographic shifts to the Southside which became predominantly black neighborhoods (communities like East Point, Hapeville, College Park, Forest Park, Jonesboro, etc)

So a lot has shifted over the last 30-40 years, alotta the music you’ve heard talking about College Park and Old National were when that shift was happening in real time

I came in to say this. Damn bruh, you really know your southside history unlike a lot of folks who are here now.

That Old National stretch used to signify you made it as a black middle class home owner. When they tore down the projects they moved all of those folks to South Fulton county and it completely destroyed College Park, East Point, Fairburn, and Union City as safe middle class areas for black people. College Park was home to good schools both private and public for us.

My family moved out of College Park down to Fairburn during that shift, when Fairburn got bad we moved out to Fayette County. I remember when Shannon Mall was nice!

Any older Hip Hop artist you hear that mentioned growing up in College Park and East Point, they were not in the hood, they were from middle class black families. My Grandma lived within walking distance of "Headland and Delowe" - Outkast" and we lived 5 minutes from "Old National and Godby Road - Ludacris" that was where the Service Merchandise, Zaires, etc...was

Jonesboro and Riverdale was white folks back then. Dont let T.I. fool you.

 

[keond]

I came in to say this. Damn bruh, you really know your southside history unlike a lot of folks who are here now.

That Old National stretch used to signify you made it as a black middle class home owner. When they tore down the projects they moved all of those folks to South Fulton county and it completely destroyed College Park, East Point, Fairburn, and Union City as safe middle class areas for black people. College Park was home to good schools both private and public for us.

My family moved out of College Park down to Fairburn during that shift, when Fairburn got bad we moved out to Fayette County. I remember when Shannon Mall was nice!

Any older Hip Hop artist you hear that mentioned growing up in College Park and East Point, they were not in the hood, they were from middle class black families. My Grandma lived within walking distance of "Headland and Delowe" - Outkast" and we lived 5 minutes from "Old National and Godby Road - Ludacris" that was where the Service Merchandise, Zaires, etc...was

Jonesboro and Riverdale was white folks back then. Dont let T.I. fool you.

Destroying the projects plus Katrina really did a number on the black suburbs in Atlanta metro. Add in the housing crash of 2009. They was giving out section 8 vouchers in Dekalb county like candy. Most of my time in Georgia has been spent on the east side. It’s crazy because Lithonia used to mean “you made it” stonecrest area had everything. Now you mixing in project families with middle class families (no boule), and now retirees that had 6 figure jobs are staying next to single moms that are paying 18 bucks a month. After Katrina and the projects elimination, Stone Mountain lost damn near every decent restaurant and business. All the big box stores in Lithonia went to Conyers