The Fix is a 7/10 album at best, and it's high time we acknowledge this

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5 star thread :psalute:
I don't agree that it was a 6-7 out of 10, I'd probably say 8/10, but goddamn you argued the hell out of your point :prodigylol:
I agree with the larger point that the album does not deserve 5 mics.
I disagree with other posters in here saying this is an East Coast album.
Kanye and the Neptunes aren't East Coast producers. He definitely departed from the Southern sound for this album, but the East Coast had largely lost its regional identity by 2002. It's not like Face got Primo, RZA, Pete Rock and :havdahell:to produce the album.
 

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Face getting 5 mics had nothing to do with bias or it being some lifetime achievement. With The Fix, Face went outside of his norm and delivered a quality album. He even got a Neptunes track that wasn't a typical Neptunes track.
 

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Solid 4/5 album, Source started trolling with their 5/5 ratings from 2000 when they gave Eminem 2/5, Stillmatic 5/5, The Fix 5/5 and on. Having stans force people to agree, cause Benzino and the jewish culture vulture from Harvard said it :mjgrin:.

Souce always gave out 5 mic rating like candy if were keeping it 100 especially for new york rappers :ld:

But those particular years it wasnt alot of music being released that deserved 5 mics & those were some of the best albums released in a long time

Trill og & the naked truth was definitely overrated tho :whoa:

Em is another story :hubie:
 

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Outkast- Aquemini
Lil Wayne- Carter II
Rick Ross- Deeper Than Rap


A lot of these dudes be killin shyt far before they cater to the East but once they do, that's when fugazi critics and arrogant "true Hip Hop heads" wanna hop on they dikks. SMH
I'm not sure how Aquemini catered to the east coast though...Rosa Parks alone was country as hell.



Even Jethro and Billy Bob got down to that harmonica solo

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i disagree, this is a classic album. If anything this was def better than God's Son which came out the same year and the production def counts as a major force on that, which album doesn't?? :mjlol:

Ye's classic beat on this alone should've been the deciding factor. Yall forgetting Ye also produced In Cold blood and co-produced Heaven. Man i'm done with yall, this was Ye at his prime in producing :what:


CLASSIC :hubie:
See? Roc-A-Fella stimulus package in action. Kanye, Kanye, Kanye.....this is a SCARFACE album. fukk a damn Kanye :gucci:
 

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Souce always gave out 5 mic rating like candy if were keeping it 100 especially for new york rappers :ld:

But those particular years it wasnt alot of music being released that deserved 5 mics & those were some of the best albums released in a long time

Trill og & the naked truth was definitely overrated tho :whoa:

Em is another story :hubie:
5 mics was extremely rare actually.
Em never got 5 mics.
 

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As a huge face fan, I understand what OP is getting at, but it is just his opinion. On a side note, I just booked tickets to see him next week for the first time in concert.

The Fix is and will always be Face's most mainstream album. For anyone who hasn't listened to Face, you start with The Fix because it is the easiest to listen to. Most Face fans will have other albums as there favorite. Face is my favorite, and the Fix is somewhere near the top. Lyrically it probably isn't even in his top 5, but the production is probably his best.

As for the content, like OP mentioned, the reason why it isn't the usual dark lyrics is because Face was in a much better place. In his book, he talks about this album being the first time he got to make music with freedom and on his own terms. He was in a happy place when he made The Fix.

The album that is the most lyrically underrated is Made. I even read an article or interview where he even said the same. The Diary and The Fix are probably his two best albums, but you can definitely make cases for The Untouchable and his really early work.

I think the reason why it got so much attention was that this album gave him mainstream success. Not everyone knew or listened to Scarface before The Fix, not the case after he released it. Scarface's music isn't for everyone. Most people who don't enjoy Face will say The Fix is the only album of his they can listen to, mainly because it is mainstream and has great production.
 

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I wouldnt call it his best album, but its definitely high up there. My favorite
Face album has always been "The Diary" followed by "The Untouchable".

After that, probably "The Fix".
 
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