The fact that so many people didn't know how tariffs work isn't just ignorance, it's laziness.

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The point of this thread was to point out that most people dont know what you just expounded on about tariffs.

But that's not true. I believe most people who voted for Trump are looking for this policy.

They believe that shipping out cheap labor and taxing imports helps American industry and labor.

Whether that's true or not is up for discussion.
 

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But that's not true. I believe most people who voted for Trump are looking for this policy.

They believe that shipping out cheap labor and taxing imports helps American industry and labor.

Whether that's true or not is up for discussion.

It's NOT true. Companies have been downsizing.

At the end of the day, people choose to buy shyt. If the price is too much they simply won't but it. And it will affect business and labor.

Which is why this whole tariff shyt won't work. If it passes, they will shut it down within a year or two tops.
 

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Trump implemented tariffs during his first term, I believe they were 18% on certain goods. Nobody seemed to care…

In fact Biden took office and never reversed it. If Trump wasn’t so damn arrogant and stupid he could have implemented this and 99% of the public wouldn’t have known or cared. But he kept going on and on about it and now it’s a thing.
 

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A bunch of people are stupid. Don't let any babble get in the way, it is what it is. Most don't read higher than a 6th grade level, a bunch of them even with a ton of opportunities would be career cashiers at retail spots (not to degrade that job, just illustrating their ceiling), and literally have zero intellectual curiosity.

Hell, you can guarantee a metric ton of folks voted on the top of the ticket and left the rest empty cause they don't know what any of the other stuff means. We are about to be fukked by the least of us AND the people who knew better but opted not to vote. In normal times, you can play around trying to get who you want but a lot of folks wanna sit her talmbout policy when the opposition gave nothing but hope for the great white way. Now we have to collectively learn a lesson.
Well the good news is a lot of these people will die as a result of their stupidity. Stupid people have shorter lives and the cuts to our public safety institutions and regulatory bodies means that people who actually read will avoid contaminated goods, will seek Healthcare, will refuse unsafe work or buy safety equipment, and reap the benefits of not dying a preventable death because of their stupidity.
 

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I don't understand the point of this thread.

Tariffs are a part of an isolationist policy, increasing them decreases competition and allows more domestic companies to produce goods and services.

The goal is to ship out cheap labor (illegal immigrants) and tax cheap imports in order to stimulate the domestic workforce. It will also greatly disadvantage countries whose economies are heavily dependent on exports.

It's not to stimulate the domestic WORKFORCE. If anything it will inhibit the workforce.

It's meant to get the entrepreneurs to invest into capital, R&D, and smarter workers to make things for the domestic market.

Except in the real world - that doesn't happen.

Trump did this already with steel and aluminum during his first administration


Overall, US companies increased their steel and aluminum production comparatively little after the tariffs (figure 2). And just as metal-using companies had warned, US prices of steel and aluminum initially rose substantially. As global demand for metals softened and uncertainty over the US–China trade war took hold, prices eventually began to decline. Weakened US demand for automobiles did not help; expanded imports of metals from Canada and Mexico also contributed to lower prices after the Trump administration removed tariffs on those countries in May 2019, in order to win Congressional passage of the new US-Mexico-Canada Agreement.

A lot of the US high schools stopped teaching in the past few decades
1) Economics
2) Civics

And we're seeing the results at the polls.

Raising the prices on everything via tariffs - i.e. us companies having to come up with CASH money to pay those tariffs on goods coming in from out of the country - and no supply chain IN THE US...

Not only is that gonna get passed on to consumers in higher prices, it will get passed on to WORKERS - with lower salaries and probably fewer jobs.

Luckily in America, workers aren't consumers....oh wait..
 
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This is 2024 not 1974. Even if they banned imports, it would take at least a decade or more for the country to adjust and even then it still wouldn't be the same.

Not to mention, their loss will be another countries gain. This is a GLOBAL economy. other industries will be indirectly affected. It's one thing to open pandoras box, then close it a few years later. But you can't close pandoras box after leaving it open for decades.
It sounds good on paper, but in reality, what they are trying to do simply won't work. Especially in a capitalist, consumerist, free market economy like the U.S.

And illegal immigration has nothing to do with tariffs.

Never said it did. I said both are aspects of semi-Isolationist policies designed to limit economic and labor competition as well as avoid domestic shortages.

So in Switzerland or Japan, for example, there is a strict cap on foreign workers, who are generally limited to high-skill positions (especially in Switzerland).

You won't find a bunch of foreign workers driving trucks, operating rail cars and ski lifts, or laying fiber-optic cable next to critical infrastructure.

If you're in Arizona or California though, you'll find a whole domestic infrastructure run by immigrants and you've been conditioned to believe that only those people are capable of and willing to do those jobs.
 

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It's not to stimulate the domestic WORKFORCE. If anything it will inhibit the the workforce.

It's meant to get the entrepreneurs to invest into capital, R&D, and smarter workers to make things for the domestic market.

Except in the real world - that doesn't happen.

Trump did this already with steel and aluminum during his first administration




A lot of the US high schools stopped teaching in the past few decades
1) Economics
2) Civics

And we're seeing the results at the polls.

Raising the prices on everything via tariffs - i.e. us companies having to come up with CASH money to pay those tariffs on goods coming in from out of the country - and no supply chain IN THE US...

Not only is that gonna get passed on to consumers in higher prices, it will get passed on to WORKERS - with lower salaries and probably fewer jobs.

Luckily in America, workers aren't consumers....oh wait..

I just got domed up, I'll hit you back when we finish the second round.
 

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Trump implemented tariffs during his first term, I believe they were 18% on certain goods. Nobody seemed to care…

In fact Biden took office and never reversed it. If Trump wasn’t so damn arrogant and stupid he could have implemented this and 99% of the public wouldn’t have known or cared. But he kept going on and on about it and now it’s a thing.





 

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Detroit You bytch Ass nikka
A bunch of people are stupid. Don't let any babble get in the way, it is what it is. Most don't read higher than a 6th grade level, a bunch of them even with a ton of opportunities would be career cashiers at retail spots (not to degrade that job, just illustrating their ceiling), and literally have zero intellectual curiosity.

Hell, you can guarantee a metric ton of folks voted on the top of the ticket and left the rest empty cause they don't know what any of the other stuff means. We are about to be fukked by the least of us AND the people who knew better but opted not to vote. In normal times, you can play around trying to get who you want but a lot of folks wanna sit her talmbout policy when the opposition gave nothing but hope for the great white way. Now we have to collectively learn a lesson.
Stupidly it's a huge problem, but also narcissist and contrarians, which both go hand and hand with stupidity. Now my bro is smart and he ain't a Trump supporter, but this stupid nikka just wants to disagree. He will favor a Trunpism if it means a disagreement.

Stupid nikka said that none of the stuff Trump will do will affect black people, nothing Trump did has affected black people. Dumbass bytch nikka shyt.

Now the nikka is arguing saying this, while telling me to show him what has affected black people (he was driving might I add). I mention the DEI shyt, HE IS ALREADY AWARE OF THE ATACK ON DEI, BUT TELLING ME TO SHOW HIM SOMETHING THAT HAS/WILL AFFECT BLACK PEOPLE.

So now the nikka is still telling me to prove it, even after I mentioned the DEI shyt. Once again, the nikka is driving and mentioning things he already knows that Republicans have attacked like DEI, while simultaneously telling me to show him how. Still trying to argue his original point.

So I bring up Jasmine Crockett, once again, THE nikka IS AWARE OF HER ABD HAS SEEN SOME OF GER VIDEOS.

So I'm saying "She is literally in front of Congress, the body that controls the things that affect black people telling fukking Congress about how killing DEI programs has already affected black businesses and schooling"

"so you are aware of her, aware of what she does, but you are sitting here trying to convince me that things happening in front of Congress is just not actually happening? So she's not really in front of Congress? So this is just something we both are imagining is happening, since you already know about what she does?

fukking silence. My cousin was starting to get irritated with that nikka too and was trying to calm shyt down. I relax.

5 minutes later "you know I was just playing right"


nikka get yo lame ass the fukk out my face. Sucka ass nikka. nikka is one of the worse types of people you will ever cross paths with. Just a cornball nikka that hates on everything and looks for things to verbally disagree with. The garbage of humanity.
 

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I ain't buying shyt made in America. If I can avoid it, I absolutely will. fukk Trump. Trying to destroy my countries economy. As I said, we should charge gun owners and states the guns originated from when gun crimes happen here in Canada.
Where’s your family from? :patrice:
 

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What's a Tarrif??

First time hearing the word was a couple weeks ago

:yeshrug:

Let me help you here...

In short, tariffs are extra taxes on imported goods. The purpose of tariffs is to make items produced within the country issuing the tariffs more competitive cost and price-wise.

For example, if you buy shirts from China for $10 per shirt to sell at $20 per shirt. With a tariff on Chinese imports (let's say 50%) in place, that shirt you buy from China now costs you $15 each to buy.

As a business owner, you're not going to sell that shirt at $20 anymore. Instead, you have to raise the price to $25 to offset the cost of the tarrif you paid.

The idea is that if you can get that same shirt, but made in America at the same price point, you will buy the American-made shirt instead.

Either way, though, the price will go up for the people you sell shirts to, which can decrease demand and negatively impact your business.
 
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Yall haven't noticed that Trump comes off like he doesn't give a fukk. He is saying this to ruffle some feathers internationally and maybe renegotiate some trade agreements. He won't do blanket tariffs but rather strategic and specific ones. It's all part of the game so chill out folks
 

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Keep in mind that the US the biggest producer of oil, and it STILL imports oil from Canada and Mexico.

So gas prices will go up. Diesel prices will go up. Kerosene prices will go up.

Your personal gas prices go up, but also all of the goods and services that rely on petroleum powered vehicle will also pass the cost to you as well.

What is the TRUE cost of your life?
 

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They have mayo for brains..

They were told repeatedly for the past 2 years what tariffs are..and chose to ignore those dire warnings.
 
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