The Dead Internet Theory Is Actually Happening RIGHT NOW
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One Of The Last Real Ones To Do It
Not exactly the same theory but the attack on internet archive and sites like Z-library makes me think we’ll see a dynamic where erasure like that lead to this
1/82
@SavannahFeder
Announcing Astral - an AI marketer that works 24/7 to grow your startup.
Astral navigates websites, creates content, and runs marketing across socials.
Watch Astral automate Reddit in real-time:
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1877442839484968961/pu/vid/avc1/1920x1080/fMuIa5WaORBLE60e.mp4
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@SavannahFeder
Join the waitlist: Astral - AI Marketing Agents
3/82
@NabilHunt
I don't get why the browser is there? Why not just use API calls to do all that without the extra work of locating clickable elements ?
4/82
@SavannahFeder
Because IG, X, TikTok, LinkedIn and other social platforms don't have (easily accessible) APIs.
Using a GUI lets you automate 10x more websites with way less boilerplate code.
5/82
@DessignNet
Automation is the key ... It looks amazing.. join the waiting list
6/82
@SavannahFeder
Thanks Marios!
7/82
@TetraxYT
This is great, how do we use it to get more eyeballs on QuickSight?
8/82
@SavannahFeder
Onboarding a few people a week - if you're on the waitlist, I'll send an email your way once you're up: Astral - AI Marketing Agents
From there, would be happy to set up marketing automations specific to QuickSight on call
9/82
@itsajchan
Nice this is dope! Congrats on the announcement!
10/82
@SavannahFeder
Appreciate it, AJ!
11/82
@daniel_dhawan
I want this for TikTok and Instagram!!!
12/82
@SavannahFeder
Coming soon! But also s/o to @napoleon_alt who's building this for mobile
13/82
@theadrianm_
Looks sick - can't wait!!
14/82
@SavannahFeder
Thanks Adrian!!
15/82
@TusharMagar_
This is really cool!
16/82
@SavannahFeder
Ty for introducing me to the podcast studio
17/82
@vchennai2
Looks supe cool!
Glad to see the process since buildspace
18/82
@SavannahFeder
Same to you Vikram
19/82
@danielbelfort
oh shyt how do i get this for blok!
20/82
@SavannahFeder
Legend! Join the waitlist and I'll bump ya to the top: Astral - AI Marketing Agents
21/82
@yogesh_frapple
Amazing, joined the waitlist.
Looking forward to use it at frapple!
22/82
@SavannahFeder
Sweet, thanks for the support!
23/82
@warptux
This is sweet! Do you have any detection for human-in-the-loop captcha solving?
24/82
@SavannahFeder
Thanks Tai!
It's able to solve CAPTCHAs without needing human intervention. That said, hoping to add human-in-the-loop for other use-cases in the future, like 2FA and reviewing content.
25/82
@oscoDOTblog
astral gonna automate you out of a job
26/82
@SavannahFeder
Engineered my own demise
Fr though, end goal is to make Cursor for marketing - not Devin
27/82
@_Diplopia_
This shyt will work for the tiny amount of time it's unprofitable to run your company before forcing a KYC human only internet as the only solution.
28/82
@coryklippsten
@phjlljp @CitizenBitcoin get on this
29/82
@Chuck_Petras
@BrianRoemmele
30/82
@DaeshawnBallard
I wonder if the negative reactions to this video would be as plentiful if she didn’t use Reddit as an example.
31/82
@iamwilliamwang
Insane quality in the podcast room, also please bump me to the top of the waitlist
32/82
@alexisohanian
33/82
@brandon_hresko
wow i need this!
34/82
@SavannahFeder
Ty legend!
35/82
@juankurtzemann
in waitlist alreadyyy
36/82
@SavannahFeder
Let's goooo
37/82
@0xEbaad
Let's go!! Remember me when you are famous!!
38/82
@SavannahFeder
As long as you promise to remember me, Mr Ebaad!
39/82
@max_maksutovic
This is so cool Savannah, I can't wait to use it!
40/82
@SavannahFeder
Appreciate it sm Max!
41/82
@anik8das
Utopia for all B2C founders right there
42/82
@SavannahFeder
Hope so
43/82
@crestalnetwork
marketing on natioooon
44/82
@Ugo_alves
I imagine you don’t use reddit.
Thanks for ruining it.
45/82
@Gonzocrash
fukk you for ruining the internet. You're an evil c*nt
46/82
@MiltonCalderonD
cool!
47/82
@agirlonchain
so a reply bot? i'm confused.
48/82
@alvarovillalb_
I have a problem here. If anyone can run this on auto-pilot, wouldn't everyone stop consuming content? Meaning, wouldn't your success stop giving meaning to the content in there?
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@crescent_curtis
“just like that, we have a genuine interaction”
she said that unironically. incredible.
50/82
@balakhonoff
autonomous agents blindly creating content and navigating sites will likely trigger rapid evolution of anti-bot measures, forcing a constant arms race between detection and evasion
51/82
@gregpr07
Are you using @browser_use underneigh?
52/82
@JiteshGhanchi
Joined.
53/82
@AndyJScott
Please stop doing this
54/82
@justmikekey
Congrats on reinventing the spam bot and slapping ‘AI’ on it. Navigating websites and automating Reddit? That’s just glorified ad pollution with an algorithm. The internet didn’t ask for another AI spamming tool—real innovation would be automating value, not noise.
55/82
@guyontheearth
"A genuine interaction"
It couldn't be less genuine if they tried.
56/82
@ravdeepanand
Ah yes, this IS the Dead Internet Theory manifest.
57/82
@GentJayson
Isn't this against TOS?
58/82
@pquiggles
Doesn't this violate the ToS on like every website?
59/82
@nic__carter
i can't wait to live in the internet of AI slop
60/82
@victor_explore
guess we're automating the art of getting downvoted on reddit now
61/82
@swyx
imagine being proud of this
62/82
@QuentinWach
You have automated lying. Congratulations.
63/82
@madartist23x
I need to learn more about the digital replica options, language parameters and if you can customize your character.
64/82
@iamrobotbear
Would love to get access and take Astral for a spin.
Congrats on the launch, Savannah!
Please reach out, hop in my DMs - have several businesses I might want to use this for.
65/82
@kkiran
This is cool! How do you deal with ToS of such platforms that prevent something like this? Can they not detect this (volume and pattern)?
66/82
@JohnBr0
Awesome! does it get stuck on CAPTCHAs?
67/82
@OriginalTrades
wow!
68/82
@fortissolaris
@LifeMathMoney thought you might find this interesting
69/82
@ahmetkcodes
Thanks for creating a reason to build even better anti-bot measures
70/82
@davidspiegs
Strong ethical reservations against it, but tbf there was a gap in the market.
Surprised if you were able to raise — don’t think it’s suitable as an investor-backed venture for several reasons.
1) This business thrives in the dark. Your product is useless if Reddit knows about it. If they understand your product, they can figure out how to ban it. This is not “white hat” marketing.
2) You’re risking a cease and desist / lawsuit. This has to be against ToS.
3) If bot just posts about 1 company and nothing else on 1 account, this strategy WILL backfire (and get you banned). Most effective way would be to comment on random posts in-between and limit mentions about that company. Optimally, you’d cycle between accounts that each seek to have their own personality, stick to unrelated subreddits or comment one one subreddit repeatedly, and cease the promo opportunity only once.
3a) That would require far more compute, many more accounts, and residential IPs — much more complex, and would not be a cheap to operate, but it would be 100x more valuable in the short-term.
If it succeeds, you ruin Reddit and your product is out of business..
71/82
@MikeBirdTech
I'm all for building, hacking, and trying to make things easier for entrepreneurs in the age of AI but I have a genuine question -
How is this not a spambot?
72/82
@Rahll
Instead of Astral, you should call it Enshyttification AI so people know at a glance what it does.
73/82
@themoneygps
My question is if there's risk in getting banned from the platform for this?
I would like to use it for my physical products brand. Finding people asking for the solution online, bot comes in with a comment saying something to get them to know our brand.
74/82
@kylascan
I mean this with total genuiness, but do you worry that you will create a world where your product dissolves the use of the platform, humans leave, and then its just an AI talking to other AIs?
75/82
@DinoVedo
This violates almost every single large social media companies terms and conditions. Using any form of automation that is not real user input is against their terms and you will receive a cease and desist quickly. I know because I’ve done it years ago. They will sue you and shut you down, especially if you plan on making money with it.
76/82
@CryptoStreamHub
Great now we get spam ads disguised as content.
77/82
@zxcvdot
Can’t wait to one day tell my kids stories around a campfire of how the internet was once wonderful
78/82
@PettitFrontier
Interesting but seems like a great way to get banned on Reddit
79/82
@uwwgo
i hate this
80/82
@GHHILL1911
Awesome. You've just destroyed Reddit.
81/82
@gngrblls2thwall
When you were a kid and you dreamed of what you might do when grew up, was “drown the world in horrible slop” at the top of the wish list, or just top 5?
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@haeric
So it’s a spam bot?
To post tweets in this format, more info here: https://www.thecoli.com/threads/tips-and-tricks-for-posting-the-coli-megathread.984734/post-52211196
@SavannahFeder
Announcing Astral - an AI marketer that works 24/7 to grow your startup.
Astral navigates websites, creates content, and runs marketing across socials.
Watch Astral automate Reddit in real-time:
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1877442839484968961/pu/vid/avc1/1920x1080/fMuIa5WaORBLE60e.mp4
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@SavannahFeder
Join the waitlist: Astral - AI Marketing Agents
3/82
@NabilHunt
I don't get why the browser is there? Why not just use API calls to do all that without the extra work of locating clickable elements ?
4/82
@SavannahFeder
Because IG, X, TikTok, LinkedIn and other social platforms don't have (easily accessible) APIs.
Using a GUI lets you automate 10x more websites with way less boilerplate code.
5/82
@DessignNet
Automation is the key ... It looks amazing.. join the waiting list
6/82
@SavannahFeder
Thanks Marios!
7/82
@TetraxYT
This is great, how do we use it to get more eyeballs on QuickSight?
8/82
@SavannahFeder
Onboarding a few people a week - if you're on the waitlist, I'll send an email your way once you're up: Astral - AI Marketing Agents
From there, would be happy to set up marketing automations specific to QuickSight on call
9/82
@itsajchan
Nice this is dope! Congrats on the announcement!
10/82
@SavannahFeder
Appreciate it, AJ!
11/82
@daniel_dhawan
I want this for TikTok and Instagram!!!
12/82
@SavannahFeder
Coming soon! But also s/o to @napoleon_alt who's building this for mobile
13/82
@theadrianm_
Looks sick - can't wait!!
14/82
@SavannahFeder
Thanks Adrian!!
15/82
@TusharMagar_
This is really cool!
16/82
@SavannahFeder
Ty for introducing me to the podcast studio
17/82
@vchennai2
Looks supe cool!
Glad to see the process since buildspace
18/82
@SavannahFeder
Same to you Vikram
19/82
@danielbelfort
oh shyt how do i get this for blok!
20/82
@SavannahFeder
Legend! Join the waitlist and I'll bump ya to the top: Astral - AI Marketing Agents
21/82
@yogesh_frapple
Amazing, joined the waitlist.
Looking forward to use it at frapple!
22/82
@SavannahFeder
Sweet, thanks for the support!
23/82
@warptux
This is sweet! Do you have any detection for human-in-the-loop captcha solving?
24/82
@SavannahFeder
Thanks Tai!
It's able to solve CAPTCHAs without needing human intervention. That said, hoping to add human-in-the-loop for other use-cases in the future, like 2FA and reviewing content.
25/82
@oscoDOTblog
astral gonna automate you out of a job
26/82
@SavannahFeder
Engineered my own demise
Fr though, end goal is to make Cursor for marketing - not Devin
27/82
@_Diplopia_
This shyt will work for the tiny amount of time it's unprofitable to run your company before forcing a KYC human only internet as the only solution.
28/82
@coryklippsten
@phjlljp @CitizenBitcoin get on this
29/82
@Chuck_Petras
@BrianRoemmele
30/82
@DaeshawnBallard
I wonder if the negative reactions to this video would be as plentiful if she didn’t use Reddit as an example.
31/82
@iamwilliamwang
Insane quality in the podcast room, also please bump me to the top of the waitlist
32/82
@alexisohanian
33/82
@brandon_hresko
wow i need this!
34/82
@SavannahFeder
Ty legend!
35/82
@juankurtzemann
in waitlist alreadyyy
36/82
@SavannahFeder
Let's goooo
37/82
@0xEbaad
Let's go!! Remember me when you are famous!!
38/82
@SavannahFeder
As long as you promise to remember me, Mr Ebaad!
39/82
@max_maksutovic
This is so cool Savannah, I can't wait to use it!
40/82
@SavannahFeder
Appreciate it sm Max!
41/82
@anik8das
Utopia for all B2C founders right there
42/82
@SavannahFeder
Hope so
43/82
@crestalnetwork
marketing on natioooon
44/82
@Ugo_alves
I imagine you don’t use reddit.
Thanks for ruining it.
45/82
@Gonzocrash
fukk you for ruining the internet. You're an evil c*nt
46/82
@MiltonCalderonD
cool!
47/82
@agirlonchain
so a reply bot? i'm confused.
48/82
@alvarovillalb_
I have a problem here. If anyone can run this on auto-pilot, wouldn't everyone stop consuming content? Meaning, wouldn't your success stop giving meaning to the content in there?
49/82
@crescent_curtis
“just like that, we have a genuine interaction”
she said that unironically. incredible.
50/82
@balakhonoff
autonomous agents blindly creating content and navigating sites will likely trigger rapid evolution of anti-bot measures, forcing a constant arms race between detection and evasion
51/82
@gregpr07
Are you using @browser_use underneigh?
52/82
@JiteshGhanchi
Joined.
53/82
@AndyJScott
Please stop doing this
54/82
@justmikekey
Congrats on reinventing the spam bot and slapping ‘AI’ on it. Navigating websites and automating Reddit? That’s just glorified ad pollution with an algorithm. The internet didn’t ask for another AI spamming tool—real innovation would be automating value, not noise.
55/82
@guyontheearth
"A genuine interaction"
It couldn't be less genuine if they tried.
56/82
@ravdeepanand
Ah yes, this IS the Dead Internet Theory manifest.
57/82
@GentJayson
Isn't this against TOS?
58/82
@pquiggles
Doesn't this violate the ToS on like every website?
59/82
@nic__carter
i can't wait to live in the internet of AI slop
60/82
@victor_explore
guess we're automating the art of getting downvoted on reddit now
61/82
@swyx
imagine being proud of this
62/82
@QuentinWach
You have automated lying. Congratulations.
63/82
@madartist23x
I need to learn more about the digital replica options, language parameters and if you can customize your character.
64/82
@iamrobotbear
Would love to get access and take Astral for a spin.
Congrats on the launch, Savannah!
Please reach out, hop in my DMs - have several businesses I might want to use this for.
65/82
@kkiran
This is cool! How do you deal with ToS of such platforms that prevent something like this? Can they not detect this (volume and pattern)?
66/82
@JohnBr0
Awesome! does it get stuck on CAPTCHAs?
67/82
@OriginalTrades
wow!
68/82
@fortissolaris
@LifeMathMoney thought you might find this interesting
69/82
@ahmetkcodes
Thanks for creating a reason to build even better anti-bot measures
70/82
@davidspiegs
Strong ethical reservations against it, but tbf there was a gap in the market.
Surprised if you were able to raise — don’t think it’s suitable as an investor-backed venture for several reasons.
1) This business thrives in the dark. Your product is useless if Reddit knows about it. If they understand your product, they can figure out how to ban it. This is not “white hat” marketing.
2) You’re risking a cease and desist / lawsuit. This has to be against ToS.
3) If bot just posts about 1 company and nothing else on 1 account, this strategy WILL backfire (and get you banned). Most effective way would be to comment on random posts in-between and limit mentions about that company. Optimally, you’d cycle between accounts that each seek to have their own personality, stick to unrelated subreddits or comment one one subreddit repeatedly, and cease the promo opportunity only once.
3a) That would require far more compute, many more accounts, and residential IPs — much more complex, and would not be a cheap to operate, but it would be 100x more valuable in the short-term.
If it succeeds, you ruin Reddit and your product is out of business..
71/82
@MikeBirdTech
I'm all for building, hacking, and trying to make things easier for entrepreneurs in the age of AI but I have a genuine question -
How is this not a spambot?
72/82
@Rahll
Instead of Astral, you should call it Enshyttification AI so people know at a glance what it does.
73/82
@themoneygps
My question is if there's risk in getting banned from the platform for this?
I would like to use it for my physical products brand. Finding people asking for the solution online, bot comes in with a comment saying something to get them to know our brand.
74/82
@kylascan
I mean this with total genuiness, but do you worry that you will create a world where your product dissolves the use of the platform, humans leave, and then its just an AI talking to other AIs?
75/82
@DinoVedo
This violates almost every single large social media companies terms and conditions. Using any form of automation that is not real user input is against their terms and you will receive a cease and desist quickly. I know because I’ve done it years ago. They will sue you and shut you down, especially if you plan on making money with it.
76/82
@CryptoStreamHub
Great now we get spam ads disguised as content.
77/82
@zxcvdot
Can’t wait to one day tell my kids stories around a campfire of how the internet was once wonderful
78/82
@PettitFrontier
Interesting but seems like a great way to get banned on Reddit
79/82
@uwwgo
i hate this
80/82
@GHHILL1911
Awesome. You've just destroyed Reddit.
81/82
@gngrblls2thwall
When you were a kid and you dreamed of what you might do when grew up, was “drown the world in horrible slop” at the top of the wish list, or just top 5?
82/82
@haeric
So it’s a spam bot?
To post tweets in this format, more info here: https://www.thecoli.com/threads/tips-and-tricks-for-posting-the-coli-megathread.984734/post-52211196
1/24
@SavannahFeder
Announcing Astral - an AI marketer that works 24/7 to grow your startup.
Astral navigates websites, creates content, and runs marketing across socials.
Watch Astral automate Reddit in real-time:
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1877442839484968961/pu/vid/avc1/1920x1080/fMuIa5WaORBLE60e.mp4
2/24
@NabilHunt
I don't get why the browser is there? Why not just use API calls to do all that without the extra work of locating clickable elements ?
3/24
@SavannahFeder
Because IG, X, TikTok, LinkedIn and other social platforms don't have (easily accessible) APIs.
Using a GUI lets you automate 10x more websites with way less boilerplate code.
4/24
@iamnafets
Because they literally don't want you doing this.
5/24
@HDPbilly
soon everyone will realize...
Trusting only the APIs is a risk
6/24
@3Dmattias
There is a very good reason there is no API.
7/24
@RochTalks
This is not true. They are not documented but it's enough to click F12 on your browser and look up the network tab to know exactly what kind of payload to fire where.
8/24
@AA_isnowonline
I don't think they allow you to do this
9/24
@technobaboo
okay, but then why not use the accessibility tree? that's a 100% text-based representation you could feed into an LLM... unless those sites have such bad accessibility... also why not use old reddit interface to make things load faster and have simpler more standard HTML elements
10/24
@RasilliNFT
I‘m pretty sure that using a bot on their sites is against the terms of service… no?
11/24
@nootdootboot
This isn't true at all lmao
12/24
@NabilHunt
I see. So the demo was for Reddit but it can be used for all social media ?
13/24
@a_void_sky
even with browser, how difficult is it to parse the html to do things?
14/24
@ravavyr
You could easily use a headless browser like puppeteer to do exactly the same things without a power-consuming interface. It would be faster and cleaner.
And No, i will not help push this shyt onto the internet faster than you already have.
15/24
@Lukeest
less likely for accounts to be banned also
16/24
@TheodoreBuilds
Better ability for “chameleon” like behavior as well.
17/24
@infinite_tofu
are you using Claude Sonnet 3.5's computer use features to implement this?
18/24
@MMosiuc
Also because platforms log everything the user is using(device, OS, browser, etc) and will ban you if you try to act like a regular user while going via the API.
19/24
@IssDeinFleisch
For a good reason. It annoys THEIR customers when you dump your generated shyt on THEIR site, so they will prolly lock you out and then sue the shyt out of you.
20/24
@Mat5ty
Yeah because of people like you lmaooooo
21/24
@ofreacharound
There is an X API that tons of spambots clearly have access to
22/24
@sirbob77777
Sure they do. They just don't want your ai generated garbage infecting them.
23/24
@gtrunner
"translation" APIs access isn't free
24/24
@AnEmortalKid
Twitter API Documentation
Instagram APIs | Facebook for Developers
LinkedIn API | Products
??
To post tweets in this format, more info here: https://www.thecoli.com/threads/tips-and-tricks-for-posting-the-coli-megathread.984734/post-52211196
@SavannahFeder
Announcing Astral - an AI marketer that works 24/7 to grow your startup.
Astral navigates websites, creates content, and runs marketing across socials.
Watch Astral automate Reddit in real-time:
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1877442839484968961/pu/vid/avc1/1920x1080/fMuIa5WaORBLE60e.mp4
2/24
@NabilHunt
I don't get why the browser is there? Why not just use API calls to do all that without the extra work of locating clickable elements ?
3/24
@SavannahFeder
Because IG, X, TikTok, LinkedIn and other social platforms don't have (easily accessible) APIs.
Using a GUI lets you automate 10x more websites with way less boilerplate code.
4/24
@iamnafets
Because they literally don't want you doing this.
5/24
@HDPbilly
soon everyone will realize...
Trusting only the APIs is a risk
6/24
@3Dmattias
There is a very good reason there is no API.
7/24
@RochTalks
This is not true. They are not documented but it's enough to click F12 on your browser and look up the network tab to know exactly what kind of payload to fire where.
8/24
@AA_isnowonline
I don't think they allow you to do this
9/24
@technobaboo
okay, but then why not use the accessibility tree? that's a 100% text-based representation you could feed into an LLM... unless those sites have such bad accessibility... also why not use old reddit interface to make things load faster and have simpler more standard HTML elements
10/24
@RasilliNFT
I‘m pretty sure that using a bot on their sites is against the terms of service… no?
11/24
@nootdootboot
This isn't true at all lmao
12/24
@NabilHunt
I see. So the demo was for Reddit but it can be used for all social media ?
13/24
@a_void_sky
even with browser, how difficult is it to parse the html to do things?
14/24
@ravavyr
You could easily use a headless browser like puppeteer to do exactly the same things without a power-consuming interface. It would be faster and cleaner.
And No, i will not help push this shyt onto the internet faster than you already have.
15/24
@Lukeest
less likely for accounts to be banned also
16/24
@TheodoreBuilds
Better ability for “chameleon” like behavior as well.
17/24
@infinite_tofu
are you using Claude Sonnet 3.5's computer use features to implement this?
18/24
@MMosiuc
Also because platforms log everything the user is using(device, OS, browser, etc) and will ban you if you try to act like a regular user while going via the API.
19/24
@IssDeinFleisch
For a good reason. It annoys THEIR customers when you dump your generated shyt on THEIR site, so they will prolly lock you out and then sue the shyt out of you.
20/24
@Mat5ty
Yeah because of people like you lmaooooo
21/24
@ofreacharound
There is an X API that tons of spambots clearly have access to
22/24
@sirbob77777
Sure they do. They just don't want your ai generated garbage infecting them.
23/24
@gtrunner
"translation" APIs access isn't free
24/24
@AnEmortalKid
Twitter API Documentation
Instagram APIs | Facebook for Developers
LinkedIn API | Products
??
To post tweets in this format, more info here: https://www.thecoli.com/threads/tips-and-tricks-for-posting-the-coli-megathread.984734/post-52211196
