The Daniel Craig 007 Unappreciation Thread

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Don't think anyone could be more wrong, as far as Bond movies, and this opinion. Craig's films, are some of the ONLY ones, to be able to exist as actual GOOD movies, outside the series. The Connery ones...hold up, as well as the Moore ones, for what they are, but there is hardly any legitimate tension, romance, left, they are aged, and dated, and still beloved films, but no Bond had the kind of romance or chemistry, that Bond and Vesper had in 'Casino Royale', and the conclusion as 'Skyfall', is, in my opinion, a stronger 25 min or so then the vast majority of the entire series. 'Quantum' is dope, it's a direct sequel, and it's far from perfect, but has many great moments. I'd take 'Quantum' over any of the Brosnan, besides maybe 'Goldeneye'. The Craig Bonds are good movies first, and good Bond movies second, they will hold up in years to come, as such, while the Bond films of yesteryear, are reduced to mostly campy, fun, viewing on cable tv.
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You can't tell me Quantum stands up as a "good" movie by any measure.

The last 25 min of SkyFall were basically a well-produced version of Home Alone, with guns.

The "relationship" between Bond and Vesper was not any more well-developed on-screen than most Bond romances, except that Bond suddenly caught feelings at the end and turned bytch after she died.
 
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You can't tell me Quantum stands up as a "good" movie by any measure.

The last 25 min of SkyFall were basically a well-produced version of Home Alone, with guns.

The "relationship" between Bond and Vesper was not any more well-developed on-screen than most Bond romances, except that Bond suddenly caught feelings at the end and turned bytch after she died.
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I'd say 'Quantum', underwritten script, and story aside, stands out more then any of the Moore series, 'The Spy Who Loved Me' had a good romance with him and XXX, but marred, fatally by just the nature of the Bond movies at the time, with the over the top villains and their henchmen, meglomanical madmen in sea fortes compounds or volcanos...'Quantum' has some really strong moments, Bonds conversation with Mathis on the plane, the ending sequence with Vespers 'boyfriend', having dude drink the motor oil. The last 25 min of Skyfall'.....I suppose for a cheap joke, you could reference 'Home Alone', I'd say more of a 'Straw Dogs' influence, you felt that tension, I know I did, as deranged Bardem stalks around the house, throwing grenades into it, like what the fukk is this guy going to do? When he gets inside? Rape M? Rape Bond? Cut them up? That tension, that makes you feel like YOU Are on an isolated Scottish moor, is what good movies are about. You don't feel that in hardly any other Bond movies.

As far as Vesper/Bond, come one, I watched that last night, and I can say their chemistry and dialogue was better then any other Bond, and their scenes together more poignant, the shower scene, the meeting on the train, the scenes post kidnap/rescue...that's there in 'Live and Let Die'? 'Dr. No'? 'Goldfinger'? 'Tomorrow Never Dies'? 'Thunderball'? 'A View to a Kill'? Where? The Natayla/Bond romance had a moment, just a moment like that, which is no surprise, as Cambell directed both, when they are on a beach before the final showdown. Craigs Bonds took the best of the entire series, and character, and expanded on them, leaving most of the bullshyt behind. I'd be fine if they took even more out, and left this damaged, alcoholic, bitter, killer, and we forgot the explosions and improbable action sequences.
 
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Havnt seen skyfall, but loved Casino Royale while I do not like QoS...
 
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altho craig did bed one badass broad in QOS, he was like Ima take a shower..wanna join me?

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then she got covered in oil :sadbron:

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