The "curious" case of Triple K

[Mike the Executioner]

I'll say this. WWE in 2024 is way better than WWE in 2019 (the year I stopped watching full-time). Some things from the late 2010s were cringeworthy back then and intolerable now.

But I can't refute anything said in this thread. Some excellent points are being made here. It's like you guys took the legacy of @TheGreatShowtime and carried it on. I'm not watching everything, but I definitely recognize certain things that are going to become bigger problems if they're not addressed now:

-The New Day's heel turn has been mishandled. They have mega heat and nothing to show for it. At least give them the tag titles.
-I like Rhea, but I think she's going to become overexposed. She's not God's gift to women's wrestling. Her voice is grating sometimes. Her feud with Liv lasted longer than it should have and I feel like they're not willing to have anybody else on her level. Bianca is literally her peer and she's not getting the same shine.
-No black talent on Netflix RAW so far is inexcusable. That New Day promo should have been on the broadcast.
-Now that I think about it, I can't remember the last women's world champion that's black. In fact, this thread is making me realize that all of the singles women's champions on the main roster are white. Chelsea Green is great, but it makes me wonder if one of the midcard titles should have went to a veteran like Naomi to establish it. It worked for Seth with the WHC.

I feel like WWE started getting out of the dark ages (the 2010s) after the pandemic. Remember when Alexa was booked as a dominant champion, Bayley and Sasha were lesbian, and Asuka was booked like a chump for months? Triple H is absolutely a better booker than Vince. The company feels like it has direction now and the stories make a lot more sense. But his blind spots are showing more since the honeymoon phase is over. These things can be rectified, but if not, WWE is eventually going to backslide and the quality will be reminiscent of 2019, but for different reasons.

 

[Rell84shots]

I'm not sure what issues he has with Drag but

And I'm fine with Jaida "not being ready" she is ready for NXT though which is why she's there. Stratton be getting carried all over the main roster but I haven't seen too many people mention that and now she's champ. Jaida don't have to he Dean Malenko just a great brawler. She has some moves

Also Lyra can't cut a promo, alot of women on the main roster can't cut a promo. Rhea was getting WHAT chants after Dom left her and had to resort to insults like "chicken tender slut" to pop the crowd

I know is on the workrate steez but there are a bunch if different wrestling styles

I have, She's just athletic with a catchphrase and bolt on t*ts. Notice the only belts black people are holding are the tag belts the company doesn't care about. When Bianca & Jade started becoming a popular team and the belts in turn became more popular he took it from them. Then when his witch team couldn't get over and the belts became meaningless again he gave it back to Bianca and Jade.

 

[Rell84shots]

I'll say this. WWE in 2024 is way better than WWE in 2019 (the year I stopped watching full-time). Some things from the late 2010s were cringeworthy back then and intolerable now.

But I can't refute anything said in this thread. Some excellent points are being made here. It's like you guys took the legacy of @TheGreatShowtime and carried it on. I'm not watching everything, but I definitely recognize certain things that are going to become bigger problems if they're not addressed now:

-The New Day's heel turn has been mishandled. They have mega heat and nothing to show for it. At least give them the tag titles.
-I like Rhea, but I think she's going to become overexposed. She's not God's gift to women's wrestling. Her voice is grating sometimes. Her feud with Liv lasted longer than it should have and I feel like they're not willing to have anybody else on her level. Bianca is literally her peer and she's not getting the same shine.
-No black talent on Netflix RAW so far is inexcusable. That New Day promo should have been on the broadcast.
-Now that I think about it, I can't remember the last women's world champion that's black. In fact, this thread is making me realize that all of the singles women's champions on the main roster are white. Chelsea Green is great, but it makes me wonder if one of the midcard titles should have went to a veteran like Naomi to establish it. It worked for Seth with the WHC.

I feel like WWE started getting out of the dark ages (the 2010s) after the pandemic. Remember when Alexa was booked as a dominant champion, Bayley and Sasha were lesbian, and Asuka was booked like a chump for months? Triple H is absolutely a better booker than Vince. The company feels like it has direction now and the stories make a lot more sense. But his blind spots are showing more since the honeymoon phase is over. These things can be rectified, but if not, WWE is eventually going to backslide and the quality will be reminiscent of 2019, but for different reasons.

Is he? He's pushing vanilla midgets because of work rate, and he's ignoring all the more popular black talent. The same issues people had with Vince are still there, but are ignored because people think that Hunter is better. The way he's fukked up Melo's career is proof that black talent needs to be on alert.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

Two weeks until the Rumble, I'm not a complainer when it comes to Bianca Belair's booking for the most part but I'm getting skeptical. She's been in this tag title scene for over a year now.

Does she need to constantly be in the title picture? No, not exactly but if Rhea is going to be booked like Super Cena then Bianca should be right there with her.

This brings me to my next point. Bianca and Mercedes main evented WrestleMania. It actually became a thing outside of the wrestling bubble. They even won an ESPY award for the match Lol.

But much like this company never wanted to place Sasha over Charlotte, I feel now that they don't want to place Bianca over Rhea.

Why can't a black woman be the face of the company?

 

[Rell84shots]

Two weeks until the Rumble, I'm not a complainer when it comes to Bianca Belair's booking for the most part but I'm getting skeptical. She's been in this tag title scene for over a year now.

Does she need to constantly be in the title picture? No, not exactly but if Rhea is going to be booked like Super Cena then Bianca should be right there with her.

This brings me to my next point. Bianca and Mercedes main evented WrestleMania. It actually became a thing outside of the wrestling bubble. They even won an ESPY award for the match Lol.

But much like this company never wanted to place Sasha over Charlotte, I feel now that they don't want to place Bianca over Rhea.

Why can't a black woman be the face of the company?

Bianca was, And that's when the neckbeards started calling her stale.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

Bianca was, And that's when the neckbeards started calling her stale.

"Mami is back on top!" ain't stale to these people

 

[Silkk]

Is he? He's pushing vanilla midgets because of work rate, and he's ignoring all the more popular black talent. The same issues people had with Vince are still there, but are ignored because people think that Hunter is better. The way he's fukked up Melo's career is proof that black talent needs to be on alert.

Nahhhhh that shyt was literally unwatchable under Vince

 

[SOSRadio]

"Mami is back on top!" ain't stale to these people

Yep Rhea is everything they accused Bianca of being and they eat it up. There’s no excuse for her wrestling only 3 times on raw last year when she was only injured for about 2 months.

 

[Mike the Executioner]

Is he? He's pushing vanilla midgets because of work rate, and he's ignoring all the more popular black talent. The same issues people had with Vince are still there, but are ignored because people think that Hunter is better. The way he's fukked up Melo's career is proof that black talent needs to be on alert.

When Vince ran things, the product was chaotic, disorganized, and almost all talent suffered because of it. Kofi losing the title in six seconds. Last-minute changes that made absolutely no sense. Derailing careers of guys and girls who were organically over and forcing them into roles they weren't meant for. Bianca lost the title to Becky in thirty seconds and almost had her momentum derailed for good. Vince's booking decisions were just nonsensical and dismissive of what the fans wanted.

This is just an example, but Jinder Mahal said during his interview with CVV that Vince forced him to change his wrestling style when he was WWE Champion. He just wanted him to work holds and nothing else, and the babyface would do the exciting offense. It limited what Jinder could do in the ring and made his title reign worse. Fast forward a couple years later and he had a great title match with Seth. That's the kind of thing Jinder would have been allowed to do if he was champion now.

I would say Triple H is more inactive than Vince and certain guys and girls are stuck in neutral right now when they should be doing more. Vince was far more destructive and committed character assassination multiple times. Bayley, Asuka, Strowman, just to name a few.

 

[TheGreatShowtime]

It's like you guys took the legacy of @TheGreatShowtime and carried it on.

I got a lot left in the tank

 

[Rell84shots]

Nahhhhh that shyt was literally unwatchable under Vince

It became watchable when black talent started getting pushed more.

When Vince ran things, the product was chaotic, disorganized, and almost all talent suffered because of it. Kofi losing the title in six seconds. Last-minute changes that made absolutely no sense. Derailing careers of guys and girls who were organically over and forcing them into roles they weren't meant for. Bianca lost the title to Becky in thirty seconds and almost had her momentum derailed for good. Vince's booking decisions were just nonsensical and dismissive of what the fans wanted.

This is just an example, but Jinder Mahal said during his interview with CVV that Vince forced him to change his wrestling style when he was WWE Champion. He just wanted him to work holds and nothing else, and the babyface would do the exciting offense. It limited what Jinder could do in the ring and made his title reign worse. Fast forward a couple years later and he had a great title match with Seth. That's the kind of thing Jinder would have been allowed to do if he was champion now.

I would say Triple H is more inactive than Vince and certain guys and girls are stuck in neutral right now when they should be doing more. Vince was far more destructive and committed character assassination multiple times. Bayley, Asuka, Strowman, just to name a few.

We're literally talking about HHH fukking up people's careers with his booking in this thread. No one is saying Vince is perfect and he most certainly needed to go, but we gotta be honest about the state of HHH's booking. All the rah rah comments you hear from wrestlers/agents are all non black, and that's because black wrestlers can't sit there with a straight face and say things are better for them now.

 

[Rell84shots]

"Mami is back on top!" ain't stale to these people

Rhea is exactly who those fat incels fantasize about, meanwhile women who look like Bianca, Mercedes, and Naomi make them feel exactly how they look.

 

[Silkk]

It became watchable when black talent started getting pushed more.

30 mins of Hurt Business greatness wasn’t enough to negate 2.5 hours of absolute TRASH

 

[RegB]

Why are cats here saying Vince booked bayley crazy..? She had that legendary heel double champion run with Sasha during the Vince times..

No way is fake Egyptian triple h booked bayley better than golden role model bayley..!

 

[NoMorePie]

Why are cats here saying Vince booked bayley crazy..? She had that legendary heel double champion run with Sasha during the Vince times..

No way is fake Egyptian triple h booked bayley better than golden role model bayley..!

.Crazy how better the booking was for certain talent when COVID fukked up the world. Bobby, Sasha, Naomi, Roman, all got logical booking. Maybe it's cuz Bryan and Heyman started to take hand in the booking?