The Coli's Hardest Street Banger Contest (Bracket A)

[LauderdaleBoss]

After 3 long weeks, the time has finally come. We have 16 different entries from 16 different Coli posters that are either emcees or producers. Due to amount of participants, I had to split it up.

Therefore I've created 2 brackets/threads that will feature 8 artists and their songs The poster with the highest votes in bracket A and bracket B will face off against each other in a winner takes all FINAL ROUND (where both will duke it out in a new thread)

As of now, there's no prizes involved, but if the artists or cool with it....The 3 songs with the most votes in each bracket can be made into an EP that we can release on Coli records (or something to that effect)


Here's the link to bracket B
http://www.thecoli.com/threads/the-colis-hardest-street-banger-contest-bracket-b.424144/

Help us find out, who dropped the Hardest street banger.

When voting, please keep in mind the following.....
1. production- how hard is that beat.
2. flow- is the emcee flowing well and meshing with the beat
3. lyrics- is the emcee going in or spitting struggle bars
4. creativity- what stands out in a good way that's different
5. potential- if promoted right and given a chance, could the song blow/make noise.

Now without further ado.....here's the artists and their music.

1. @DBR (producer)
Twisted Park - Money talk- Tony Blak feat. Bender Pullem Beat by-DeadBassRecords | Spinrilla

2. @A.V. (emcee)


3. @bigrodthe1 (emcee/producer)


4. @roxxthe96er (emcee)


5. @head shots101 (producer)


6. @BlackDroog (producer)


7. @TEKBEATZ (producer)


8. @ibrokemyneck (producer)

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

@boydangerous
@DrHackenbush
@FruitOfTheVale
@Chubbs
@clanarchy
@KRS-TWO
@DavidBlakefan

@hustlemania
@hexagram23
@Cole Cash
@Wepa Man
@Matt504
@Tom Foolery
@KushSkywalker
@smARTmouf
@dora_da_destroyer
@nikkahs B. Wildin
@patscorpio
@Myrical Lyfe
@KillSpray
@Roxx the King

@Brooklynzson


We appreciate all of the time, votes, comments, and feedback. Thank You.

 

[FruitOfTheVale]

Respect to everyone who did a song. As far as the voting criteria, I decided to break own each song.

1) Tony Blak - Money Talk

Production: Beat is dope, it's somewhat derivative but it's well constructed and it works with this song.
Flow: The flow is nice throughout (especially dude on the 3rd verse), it's definitely the highlight on the vocal end imo. The hook got a nice ring to it too, it anchors the track. All the same it would've been nice if there was a bridge after the 2nd verse to change the song up instead of repeating the hook again.
Lyrics: Technically the lyrics are average and content-wise there's a lack of particularly memorable lines. The hook is definitely the most memorable chunk of the song.
Creativity: The song in general feels somewhat derivative, I did like some of what was being done with delivery though. The 3rd rapper had good presence, he lacked standout lines to take his verse to the next level though.
Potential: I think that it makes a solid mixtape track, the lack of standout lines makes it more forgettable than not though. The beat and the hook have a nice presence so I think that's what will catch people's ears, none of the verses made me want to check out any of the rappers beyond this song though. If the verses were redone somehow I think this track will have a lot more potential.

2) AV - Fucitdoe

Production: Beat on this is flames, reminds me of some dark Kevin Gates type shyt.
Flow: The flow was smooth without any choppiness, it would've been nice if you changed it up more significantly once or twice in the first two verses though. The beat itself doesn't have any significant change-ups (as far as the beat progression) so the lack of a switch-up with the first two verses is making it fluid in a way that isn't as attention-grabbing as it could be imo. You switched it up a little on the last verse though which was good, I think you could switch it up even more drastically though and get good results.
Lyrics: You have a good grasp of the technical shyt, you had some slick lines throughout too which kept it more interesting than not. I couldn't guess the next thing you were gonna say, that's a very good thing. The hook was solid too, definitely worked with the beat. This song is not amazing lyrically by any means but for the kind of song it is (street banger) it's above average.
Creativity: This is where the song felt lacking imo but I want to be clear, I'm not referring to the lyrics being "unoriginal" or the topic being "generic". Personally I don't think any topic is inherently generic, the problem for me here was that there were no real curveballs in this song. The song structure was very orthodox and lyrically there were no true surprises although there were a few slick lines.
Potential: This is a solid song, it definitely has potential. IDK if it's a breakout hit but I think it can/will get burn in the streets even just off the production alone. I think that what can be improved on with this song is reworking some of the song structure in the first and second verse, it feels too safe as far as NY street rap goes imo.

3) BigRodthe1 - Over Here

Production: The beat got that hood Detroit/ Dough Boyz Cashout feel to it, it has a very local sound to it but I actually like it.
Flow: Your flow is cool, the 2nd dude's flow is a little rocky. One comment I have about your flow though is that your delivery isn't really creating separation between the lines, the impact of the lines are being blunted by the lack of variation in the way you're delivering each line. Funny enough the hook had a little more of that than your verses did, it made the hook pop more than the rest of the song.
Lyrics: Lyrically the 2nd dude's verse was wack imo. Your 1st verse is ok, technically and conceptually though it's definitely on the basic side. Your 2nd verse is much better because you focused more on storytelling, that created more interest in what you were gonna say the next line. I think this song would have benefitted from more of that, it would've been cool to get more of the imagery of living in Detroit considering that's what the song's about.
Creativity: This song was definitely lacking creatively on the conceptual side as well as the song structure.
Potential: This works ok as a block anthem but not much else imo. If you redid the song and made it have more of a story I think that will change though.

4) Big Roxx - Dope

Production: Beat is cool, it has a Lil Wayne/Kevin Gates feel to it.
Flow: Your flow is decent, the autotune definitely helps to sell it. I feel like more should've been done to make the hook stand out though, it sort of just feels like an extension of the verses the way it's mixed and that's holding the song back from standing out more.
Lyrics: The lyrics are very generic, 8/10 I could guess the next thing you were going to say. Technically the lyrics are cool but they don't paint much of a picture that feels specific.
Creativity: Like I said above, the song feels very derivative. If more had been done to give the hook it's own sound I think that might've actually helped with making it feel less generic, in this version of the song though it doesn't stand out to my ear.
Potential: The beat is cool, lyrically though it feels like a throwaway mixtape single.

I'll get around to the rest of the songs tomorrow before I vote.

 

[FruitOfTheVale]

One comment I got is that it also makes sense to add a separate category for the hook, it falls somewhere in-between flow/lyrics/creativity and writing a good hook is a skill in and of itself.

 

[A.V.]

Production: Beat on this is flames, reminds me of some dark Kevin Gates type shyt.
Flow: The flow was smooth without any choppiness, it would've been nice if you changed it up more significantly once or twice in the first two verses though. The beat itself doesn't have any significant change-ups (as far as the beat progression) so the lack of a switch-up with the first two verses is making it fluid in a way that isn't as attention-grabbing as it could be imo. You switched it up a little on the last verse though which was good, I think you could switch it up even more drastically though and get good results.
Lyrics: You have a good grasp of the technical shyt, you had some slick lines throughout too which kept it more interesting than not. I couldn't guess the next thing you were gonna say, that's a very good thing. The hook was solid too, definitely worked with the beat. This song is not amazing lyrically by any means but for the kind of song it is (street banger) it's above average.
Creativity: This is where the song felt lacking imo but I want to be clear, I'm not referring to the lyrics being "unoriginal" or the topic being "generic". Personally I don't think any topic is inherently generic, the problem for me here was that there were no real curveballs in this song. The song structure was very orthodox and lyrically there were no true surprises although there were a few slick lines.
Potential: This is a solid song, it definitely has potential. IDK if it's a breakout hit but I think it can/will get burn in the streets even just off the production alone. I think that what can be improved on with this song is reworking some of the song structure in the first and second verse, it feels too safe as far as NY street rap goes imo.

This is some dope feedback. I can't argue with any of your points, because I know exactly the level of effort I put in to the song, the age on some of the verses, and my intentions for this song & the particular verses I used. So yes, you are correct in your analysis on all fronts. How you feel about the song is exactly what I was aiming for, so thank you, as a listener for catching that.





@LauderdaleBoss can participants vote on other participants (excluding themselves)?

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

One comment I got is that it also makes sense to add a separate category for the hook, it falls somewhere in-between flow/lyrics/creativity and writing a good hook is a skill in and of itself.

I feel you breh.

I thought about the hook/chorus as being it's own category, but on the other hand a hard street banger doesn't always have to have a chorus. Triumph from Wu-Tang clan is a hard street banger and it's just verse after verse of just spitting. So I just left it off. That's where potential and creativity come in.

Good shyt with the breakdowns though. It's appreciated

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

This is some dope feedback. I can't argue with any of your points, because I know exactly the level of effort I put in to the song, the age on some of the verses, and my intentions for this song & the particular verses I used. So yes, you are correct in your analysis on all fronts. How you feel about the song is exactly what I was aiming for, so thank you, as a listener for catching that.





@LauderdaleBoss can participants vote on other participants (excluding themselves)?

Everybody pretty much has 2 votes. Just 1 for each bracket. So participants can still vote for themselves in their own bracket if they choose to, but they'd still have to vote for someone else in the 2nd bracket.

If when the poll closes and a participant didn't vote (meaning voting in both brackets), they getting penalized 1 vote. The reason for this is, it forces people to participate cuz last time I did this, we had less overall votes than actual entries. nikkas just submitted they music and disappeared. That's not fair to anybody really. So Hopefully everybody votes so shyt like that doesn't happen, especially if the stats are close. That's like deducting a point in the last round of a boxing match. Nobody wants to do it, but sometimes it has to happen.

Thanks

 

[FruitOfTheVale]

I feel you breh.

I thought about the hook/chorus as being it's own category, but on the other hand a hard street banger doesn't always have to have a chorus. Triumph from Wu-Tang clan is a hard street banger and it's just verse after verse of just spitting. So I just left it off. That's where potential and creativity come in.

Good shyt with the breakdowns though. It's appreciated

Fosho

I had another question, is there any way to post this or advertise these threads more in The Booth? It's a relatively short voting period and a lot of people who would vote probably won't see it by the time the voting's over.

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

Fosho

I had another question, is there any way to post this or advertise these threads more in The Booth? It's a relatively short voting period and a lot of people who would vote probably won't see it by the time the voting's over.

I gotcha breh. I'll try....

@Brooklynzson
@cook

Is there anyway this thread can be featured or made into a bulletin or something so more posters can see these 2 threads and vote? The Tunnel doesn't get as much traffic as the booth does, but we got 2 threads full of dope Coli music from 16 different posters and we trying to see who made the Hardest Street Banger. This is the biggest competition we've had in a while and we'd like to do it as a monthly thing if this is successful.

Any type of support will be greatly appreciated.

Thank you.

 

[ibrokemyneck]

y'all i'm gonnna crack a beer and make this a listening party. *popcorn

 

[FruitOfTheVale]

Here's the rest of my thoughts:

5) Headshots/Rockwelz - Love My City

Production: Beat is solid, classic New York street shyt. It would've been nice to have a change-up, it works as it is though.
Flow: The flow is solid, you did a nice job riding the beat. One comment I have is that the energy level throughout the song was static, at some points you had some more personal lines (ex. "and when you see my ex, say hi hater/I hope it all works out with your vibrator") that could've stood out more if there was more energy at certain points. In addition to that the hook feels very plain/cookie cutter, it doesn't do a good job of breaking up the song.
Lyrics: There's some nice lines throughout. Technically-speaking, the verses are consistently average.
Creativity: This is where the song is seriously lacking imo. The hook feels uninspired even as a New York anthem, this concept has been done a million times before and the hook isn't doing this song any favors. On top of that, imo an anthem needs a certain level of energy to really pull it off and that's also lacking here. Certain lines in the verses would shine more if they were emphasized more, that Chinx Drugz line for example would come across as more sincere if more emphasis was placed on it.
Potential: The song concept has been done before and frankly done better, if the hook was reworked and the song felt more energetic though I think it can be a solid anthem in its own right.

6) BlackDroog/Shutterworth - Unholy Warfare

Production: It sounds like some old school RZA, it feels a little dated partly because of how lo-fi it is but the execution is strong. It doesn't really feel like a street banger per say though.
Flow: The flow matches the beat very well in some respects, your style meshes well with the beat. There's a rough patch or two throughout though, the flow switches between 1:45 and 1:55 for example didn't feel smooth enough and sort of took me out of the song.
Lyrics: I like that you went for some grimier content, the beat definitely called for that. Technically-speaking the song was average but the dark imagery was effective.
Creativity: I like the direction you took with the dark concept, in some ways though I think your delivery could've been grimier to bring out the atmosphere more.
Potential: I think this is more of an album cut than a street banger, I think part of that has to do with the conscious choice to go more retro so to speak with the beat and style. I think the song works but I think it will be even better if the atmosphere is played up even more.

7) TekBeatz/EOW Boyz - Tryna Make A Dolla

Production: This beat doesn't really feel like a street banger imo, it's a nice sample flip and boom bap track but it feels a little too laid back.
Flow: The verses had a cool throwback flow, the hook was botched though imo mainly because it was under-delivered. Even with the laid back feel they went for, the hook was too laid back.
Lyrics: There were a lot of backpack rap tropes throughout the 1st verse, the technicality wasn't all that either. The 2nd verse was better, it had more personality. Both verses lacked standout lines, they didn't feel like they were worked on for very long.
Creativity: Vocally the song felt uninspired, the Chris Rock sample at the end was a nice touch though.
Potential: The song as a whole feels garden-variety as boom bap tracks go, the beat is definitely the better half of the song. The hook is the biggest culprit here though, the delivery was not effective at all and made the song feel very amateurish.

8) ibrokemyneck - Blizzy With The Wax

Production: Dope sample! I like the synth in the background as well, the switch-up in the middle is beautiful. Great work
Flow: The flow was very solid for the most part, there were a couple spots where the rhymes felt forced but o/a the flow was definitely a highlight. The delivery kind of lacked personality though imo, the vocals sort of just sat on the beat without ever really demanding my attention. I think it worked on the hook but the verses could've used more energy.
Lyrics: Lyrically the song is solid, I liked a number of the references and the technicality was definitely up to par.
Creativity: The lyrics themselves had a nice spin on them, the delivery felt somewhat uninspired during the verses though and imo it held the lyrics back from standing out as much as they should. The hook was nice though.
Potential: The beat is very dope and the lyrics have enough personality for the song to find an audience, the rapper's delivery on the verses needed work though imo to really make this song pop. If the vocals are reworked I think this song will find a bigger audience.


Based on the criteria, these were my top 3:

1) A.V. - Fucitdoe
2) ibrokemyneck - Blizzy With The Wax
3) DBR - Money Talks

My vote went to A.V., salute to everyone who participated though

 

[ImmaGetJoeClarkArrested]

Respect to everyone who did a song. As far as the voting criteria, I decided to break own each song.

1) Tony Blak - Money Talk

Production: Beat is dope, it's somewhat derivative but it's well constructed and it works with this song.
Flow: The flow is nice throughout (especially dude on the 3rd verse), it's definitely the highlight on the vocal end imo. The hook got a nice ring to it too, it anchors the track. All the same it would've been nice if there was a bridge after the 2nd verse to change the song up instead of repeating the hook again.
Lyrics: Technically the lyrics are average and content-wise there's a lack of particularly memorable lines. The hook is definitely the most memorable chunk of the song.
Creativity: The song in general feels somewhat derivative, I did like some of what was being done with delivery though. The 3rd rapper had good presence, he lacked standout lines to take his verse to the next level though.
Potential: I think that it makes a solid mixtape track, the lack of standout lines makes it more forgettable than not though. The beat and the hook have a nice presence so I think that's what will catch people's ears, none of the verses made me want to check out any of the rappers beyond this song though. If the verses were redone somehow I think this track will have a lot more potential.

2) AV - Fucitdoe

Production: Beat on this is flames, reminds me of some dark Kevin Gates type shyt.
Flow: The flow was smooth without any choppiness, it would've been nice if you changed it up more significantly once or twice in the first two verses though. The beat itself doesn't have any significant change-ups (as far as the beat progression) so the lack of a switch-up with the first two verses is making it fluid in a way that isn't as attention-grabbing as it could be imo. You switched it up a little on the last verse though which was good, I think you could switch it up even more drastically though and get good results.
Lyrics: You have a good grasp of the technical shyt, you had some slick lines throughout too which kept it more interesting than not. I couldn't guess the next thing you were gonna say, that's a very good thing. The hook was solid too, definitely worked with the beat. This song is not amazing lyrically by any means but for the kind of song it is (street banger) it's above average.
Creativity: This is where the song felt lacking imo but I want to be clear, I'm not referring to the lyrics being "unoriginal" or the topic being "generic". Personally I don't think any topic is inherently generic, the problem for me here was that there were no real curveballs in this song. The song structure was very orthodox and lyrically there were no true surprises although there were a few slick lines.
Potential: This is a solid song, it definitely has potential. IDK if it's a breakout hit but I think it can/will get burn in the streets even just off the production alone. I think that what can be improved on with this song is reworking some of the song structure in the first and second verse, it feels too safe as far as NY street rap goes imo.

3) BigRodthe1 - Over Here

Production: The beat got that hood Detroit/ Dough Boyz Cashout feel to it, it has a very local sound to it but I actually like it.
Flow: Your flow is cool, the 2nd dude's flow is a little rocky. One comment I have about your flow though is that your delivery isn't really creating separation between the lines, the impact of the lines are being blunted by the lack of variation in the way you're delivering each line. Funny enough the hook had a little more of that than your verses did, it made the hook pop more than the rest of the song.
Lyrics: Lyrically the 2nd dude's verse was wack imo. Your 1st verse is ok, technically and conceptually though it's definitely on the basic side. Your 2nd verse is much better because you focused more on storytelling, that created more interest in what you were gonna say the next line. I think this song would have benefitted from more of that, it would've been cool to get more of the imagery of living in Detroit considering that's what the song's about.
Creativity: This song was definitely lacking creatively on the conceptual side as well as the song structure.
Potential: This works ok as a block anthem but not much else imo. If you redid the song and made it have more of a story I think that will change though.

4) Big Roxx - Dope

Production: Beat is cool, it has a Lil Wayne/Kevin Gates feel to it.
Flow: Your flow is decent, the autotune definitely helps to sell it. I feel like more should've been done to make the hook stand out though, it sort of just feels like an extension of the verses the way it's mixed and that's holding the song back from standing out more.
Lyrics: The lyrics are very generic, 8/10 I could guess the next thing you were going to say. Technically the lyrics are cool but they don't paint much of a picture that feels specific.
Creativity: Like I said above, the song feels very derivative. If more had been done to give the hook it's own sound I think that might've actually helped with making it feel less generic, in this version of the song though it doesn't stand out to my ear.
Potential: The beat is cool, lyrically though it feels like a throwaway mixtape single.

I'll get around to the rest of the songs tomorrow before I vote.

Here's the rest of my thoughts:

5) Headshots/Rockwelz - Love My City

Production: Beat is solid, classic New York street shyt. It would've been nice to have a change-up, it works as it is though.
Flow: The flow is solid, you did a nice job riding the beat. One comment I have is that the energy level throughout the song was static, at some points you had some more personal lines (ex. "and when you see my ex, say hi hater/I hope it all works out with your vibrator") that could've stood out more if there was more energy at certain points. In addition to that the hook feels very plain/cookie cutter, it doesn't do a good job of breaking up the song.
Lyrics: There's some nice lines throughout. Technically-speaking, the verses are consistently average.
Creativity: This is where the song is seriously lacking imo. The hook feels uninspired even as a New York anthem, this concept has been done a million times before and the hook isn't doing this song any favors. On top of that, imo an anthem needs a certain level of energy to really pull it off and that's also lacking here. Certain lines in the verses would shine more if they were emphasized more, that Chinx Drugz line for example would come across as more sincere if more emphasis was placed on it.
Potential: The song concept has been done before and frankly done better, if the hook was reworked and the song felt more energetic though I think it can be a solid anthem in its own right.

6) BlackDroog/Shutterworth - Unholy Warfare

Production: It sounds like some old school RZA, it feels a little dated partly because of how lo-fi it is but the execution is strong. It doesn't really feel like a street banger per say though.
Flow: The flow matches the beat very well in some respects, your style meshes well with the beat. There's a rough patch or two throughout though, the flow switches between 1:45 and 1:55 for example didn't feel smooth enough and sort of took me out of the song.
Lyrics: I like that you went for some grimier content, the beat definitely called for that. Technically-speaking the song was average but the dark imagery was effective.
Creativity: I like the direction you took with the dark concept, in some ways though I think your delivery could've been grimier to bring out the atmosphere more.
Potential: I think this is more of an album cut than a street banger, I think part of that has to do with the conscious choice to go more retro so to speak with the beat and style. I think the song works but I think it will be even better if the atmosphere is played up even more.

7) TekBeatz/EOW Boyz - Tryna Make A Dolla

Production: This beat doesn't really feel like a street banger imo, it's a nice sample flip and boom bap track but it feels a little too laid back.
Flow: The verses had a cool throwback flow, the hook was botched though imo mainly because it was under-delivered. Even with the laid back feel they went for, the hook was too laid back.
Lyrics: There were a lot of backpack rap tropes throughout the 1st verse, the technicality wasn't all that either. The 2nd verse was better, it had more personality. Both verses lacked standout lines, they didn't feel like they were worked on for very long.
Creativity: Vocally the song felt uninspired, the Chris Rock sample at the end was a nice touch though.
Potential: The song as a whole feels garden-variety as boom bap tracks go, the beat is definitely the better half of the song. The hook is the biggest culprit here though, the delivery was not effective at all and made the song feel very amateurish.

8) ibrokemyneck - Blizzy With The Wax

Production: Dope sample! I like the synth in the background as well, the switch-up in the middle is beautiful. Great work
Flow: The flow was very solid for the most part, there were a couple spots where the rhymes felt forced but o/a the flow was definitely a highlight. The delivery kind of lacked personality though imo, the vocals sort of just sat on the beat without ever really demanding my attention. I think it worked on the hook but the verses could've used more energy.
Lyrics: Lyrically the song is solid, I liked a number of the references and the technicality was definitely up to par.
Creativity: The lyrics themselves had a nice spin on them, the delivery felt somewhat uninspired during the verses though and imo it held the lyrics back from standing out as much as they should. The hook was nice though.
Potential: The beat is very dope and the lyrics have enough personality for the song to find an audience, the rapper's delivery on the verses needed work though imo to really make this song pop. If the vocals are reworked I think this song will find a bigger audience.


Based on the criteria, these were my top 3:

1) A.V. - Fucitdoe
2) ibrokemyneck - Blizzy With The Wax
3) DBR - Money Talks

My vote went to A.V., salute to everyone who participated though

This was dope...will you do it for the other bracket too??

 

[clanarchy]

@FruitOfTheVale on those reviews.

 

[clanarchy]

Wow, this was tough as hell to put a vote. Everybody had something good, I genuinely liked all the tracks but @A.V. really stood out to me though.

 

[ibrokemyneck]

tought decision here, moving to bracket 2. also Fruit of the Vale for the shoutout and reviews. that's what we need here. participation! sickkk