The Cavs Andrew Wiggins/Kevin Love Dilemma*Update* Deal is finalized

[Eye Cue DA COLI GAWD]

This is such an easy call that's not even funny. Where is the confusion coming from?

Kyrie/Delly
Waiters/Allen
LeBron/Miller
Love/Tristan
Moscov/Varejao

vs

Kyrie/Delly
Wiggins/Waiters/Allen
LeBron/Wiggins/Miller
Tristan/Bennett
Moscov/Varejao


Do you all not see which line up has the championship pedigree and which one doesn't?

Wiggins is not a SG. His defense is overrated, and there is little room to play Waiters and him together without having great shooting and spacing on the court at same time.

Stop talking that basic sh*t and let's get to the bottom line. Why ya'll dudes think LeBron would rather play with Wiggins and Bennett over Love when the pieces don't fit? Explain to me how it will work. I dare you.

Wiggins just shot 11% from 3 in the Summer League. Bennett's defense was awful. Nobody got time to wait for these nikkas to develop into maybe above average players when the goal is to win championships.

 

[Malta]

This is such an easy call that's not even funny. Where is the confusion coming from?

Kyrie/Delly
Waiters/Allen
LeBron/Miller
Love/Tristan
Moscov/Varejao

vs

Kyrie/Delly
Wiggins/Waiters/Allen
LeBron/Wiggins/Miller
Tristan/Bennett
Moscov/Varejao


Do you all not see which line up has the championship pedigree and which one doesn't?

Wiggins is not a SG. His defense is overrated, and there is little room to play Waiters and him together without having great shooting and spacing on the court at same time.

Stop talking that basic sh*t and let's get to the bottom line. Why ya'll dudes think LeBron would rather play with Wiggins and Bennett over Love when the pieces don't fit? Explain to me how it will work. I dare you.

Wiggins just shot 11% from 3 in the Summer League. Bennett's defense was awful. Nobody got time to wait for these nikkas to develop into maybe above average players when the goal is to win championships.

You do realize there's a chance Love could leave, right?

 

[Skilltastrophy]

This is such an easy call that's not even funny. Where is the confusion coming from?

Kyrie/Delly
Waiters/Allen
LeBron/Miller
Love/Tristan
Moscov/Varejao

vs

Kyrie/Delly
Wiggins/Waiters/Allen
LeBron/Wiggins/Miller
Tristan/Bennett
Moscov/Varejao


Do you all not see which line up has the championship pedigree and which one doesn't?

Wiggins is not a SG. His defense is overrated, and there is little room to play Waiters and him together without having great shooting and spacing on the court at same time.

Stop talking that basic sh*t and let's get to the bottom line. Why ya'll dudes think LeBron would rather play with Wiggins and Bennett over Love when the pieces don't fit? Explain to me how it will work. I dare you.

Wiggins just shot 11% from 3 in the Summer League. Bennett's defense was awful. Nobody got time to wait for these nikkas to develop into maybe above average players when the goal is to win championships.

if the goal is to win championships then both of those lineups are failures this year and next...at least the top one gives you flexibility to improve...Love eats up the rest of the cap space

 

[Ethnic Vagina Finder]

With Kyrie, Love and Lebron's contracts it will be like Miami all over again. You sacrifice a younger deeper (affordable) roster for another superstar.

The only difference is veterans wont be taking pay cuts to come to Cleveland.

 

[Ritzy Sharon]

Read that the Cavs will try to use pick(s) to land a veteran center, most people seem to think they'll go after Mozgov. His salary is basically a perfect match with the guys they traded for today.

 

[Malta]

A key word here is “protected.” The Miami Heat will only surrender their pick to Cleveland if it falls outside the draft’s top 10 choices in 2015 or 2016; there are no restrictions on the pick in 2017. The Cavs will only receive the Memphis Grizzlies’ first-round choice if it’s a selection between 6-14 in 2015 or 2016; the pick is protected 1-5 in 2017 and 2018 and unprotected in 2019.

You could end up with one of those

 

[Ritzy Sharon]

You could end up with one of those

Mozzy was one of the few bright spots from last season and Faried/Mozzy is our most effective big man combination. it would kill me if we moved him for a pick.

take McGee instead.

 

[Malta]

Mozzy was one of the few bright spots from last season and Faried/Mozzy is our most effective big man combination. it would kill me if we moved him for a pick.

take McGee instead.

I don't think they can afford McGee, those 3 contracts they got today + a pick probably gets Mozgov, and it would make sense for them to target him since.....

 

[Ritzy Sharon]

I don't think they can afford McGee, those 3 contracts they got today + a pick probably gets Mozgov, and it would make sense for them to target him since.....

it would leave us with McGee (coming off season ending injury) and Nurkic (rookie) at center. not to mention, McGee and Faried are a terrible fit together.

there's also salary camp implications. handcuffing ourselves to McGee hampers our ability to retain Faried and/or Afflalo next summer.

moving Moz right now for a future asset doesn't make sense. he's on a bargain deal and and lowkey, an important part of our core.

 

[Greenstrings]

You do realize there's a chance Love could leave, right?

Wont happen. Unless Lebron dies there's no way he'd be able to justify it. Dwight left a failed project with ageing legs that could only promise diminishing returns going forward. This is something entirely different.

 

[Born2BKing]

All I see in this proposed trade is Wiggins value aint really shyt..lol Wolves want way more.

But according to some of these coli nikkas he is a future super star lol. I think he is starting to be seen for what he is. Overrated.

 

[Lord Beasley]

if i'm F.Gilbert im shopping waiters and giving wiggins a shot. there's no way i'd trade wig, bennet and a 1st rounder for Love (even if he promised to sign an extension, resign, or sacrifice his first born) ppl dont realize how bad waiters' ROOKIE contract is......

then lets say F.Gilly wants to re-sign Love after this year. He's also gotta worry about resigning Rie so he's wasting all that $$$ on a Big 2 & Rie

this shyt really isn't rocket science, brehs.....

 

[Microfracture]

Read that the Cavs will try to use pick(s) to land a veteran center, most people seem to think they'll go after Mozgov. His salary is basically a perfect match with the guys they traded for today.

OH MOZGAWD!!! WE EATIN GOOD ON LAKE ERIE!!!

 

[Art Barr]

ramped up from college? grant hill danny granger same sentence explained

grant hill and granger were okay.
not, argueably the best sf's in the game on draft night.
grant hill from duke to the NBA after draft is the greatest rampup player in NBA history.
plus, he was from duke.
so, we know from that era he could have been a soft punk ass bust.
yet, he came in the league like he never played a day at duke and came from a supersaiyan sensu bean patch.
if, not for hill guys like brand, booze, even jay Williams would have never got respect or tick as black duke ballplayers, in the NBA.
with granger, he played behind artest and no one gave him credit for being a possible allstar and possible top five ballplayer out of college.
he ramped up, and did become a a top four ballplayer.
which is why I say him and grant hill were the best rampup ball players in the history of the NBA.

Art Barr

 

[Rekkapryde]

Exactly


There's no point to get rid of waiters and wiggins hell even Bennett if Kevin Love becomes a free agent the next year.

Waiters is good player off the bench

If they take Love, their cap is fukkED going forward. It's gonna be bron, kyrie, and love and role players.

And mufukkaz don't forget what happened to Cleveland the last time they listened to Bron about player decisions.....

Let the GM do his job and stay out of it because if it doesn't work, you gonna get the blame Bron.