The Call Of Duty: Black Ops 2 Thread
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THASTUNNA
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Word on the e-streets is that 3arc will release Map AND Gun packs! Heard it from a few sources on twitter...grain of salt as usual though. If BO2 is as deep as it looks, league play, ranked games, tournaments and all that...there ain't a reason we need another game in 2013. If 3 arc, Vahnderhar and crew come thru and hulk smash the buildings...nobody is gonna wanna see a shytty game from IW/Sledgehammer games.
Andat the return of the Tar21, Vector, MP7 and Scar-H in BO2.
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isn't the Scar, MP7, and Vector all in BO2 already? Maaaaaaan I miss that Tar21 from mw2.. bytch as IW should have did a gun pack with mw3
THASTUNNA
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@ 179.99 for the prestige edition.. Activision is crazy
was bored at work...
kinda missed the good ole days playing COD with y'all til the sun came up. Always liked the treyarch cod games too so I might cop. that new MOH hasn't shown me anything to get me hype and im not coppin Halo
No Deathstreaks or Final/Last Stand Perk
Zombies, and presumably during any campaign story missions, will still use the ability to be downed but not killed with a weapon in hand. The perk/deathstreak, having received so much criticism since its inclusion in Call of Duty 4, has finally been killed off with Vonderhaar tongue-in-cheek referencing to his decision to keep the perk in Black Ops multiplayer and the constant barrage of messages he gets, by saying please stop yelling at me.
Deathstreaks have been thrown out the window, again, after being re-introduced in Modern Warfare 3 by Infinity Ward despite not making an appearance in the first Black Ops game.
Pointstreak Awards Loop-Around
55 Levels = 55 Unlock Tokens; Over 100 Pieces of Unlocks
There is more of an incentive to Prestige, because for completionists out there you will not be able to unlock everything without having to Prestige. But David Vonderhaar also mentions, which is still being tinkered, that you can hold onto an unlock through all Prestiges like the Prestige Token system in MW3. He says they are in the process of making sure Prestige feels just as good.
Aggressive/Objective Players Rewarded More; Scoring System Explained
Custom Emblems Returning and Major Improvements
The infamous Perk and Deathstreak has finally been ousted after five Call of Duty games, with Black Ops II making the first ever main series game to not have Last Stand, Second Chance or whatever you want to call it. I repeat, there is no Last Stand, period.
Zombies, and presumably during any campaign story missions, will still use the ability to be downed but not killed with a weapon in hand. The perk/deathstreak, having received so much criticism since its inclusion in Call of Duty 4, has finally been killed off with Vonderhaar tongue-in-cheek referencing to his decision to keep the perk in Black Ops multiplayer and the constant barrage of messages he gets, by saying please stop yelling at me.
Deathstreaks have been thrown out the window, again, after being re-introduced in Modern Warfare 3 by Infinity Ward despite not making an appearance in the first Black Ops game.
Pointstreak Awards Loop-Around
Like in Modern Warfare 3, rewards gained by playing the objectives or killing gaining points for your streak will not stop after you attain your highest level reward; they will wrap around and reset back to 0. In previous games before Modern Warfare 3, streaks would stop after you managed to get your highest killstreak so it wouldnt reset the streak, it would instead just stop counting actions and never reset until you died. David structured an easy example:
But there is a catch. And, again, like in Modern Warfare 3 the streaks do not stack on top of each other. You could have earned that UAV and youre about to earn another without calling in your first one, but you wont get two to use. If you earn a second UAV, it still only counts as if you only earned one; you will always only have the single reward no matter come many times you earned it so if you want multiple things, call them in before earning them again!
55 Levels = 55 Unlock Tokens; Over 100 Pieces of Unlocks
The relatively simple system that is unlocking and acquiring weapons and class items. You get an unlock token for every level you surpass. These tokens can be used to unlock what you saw in the Gamescom footages, from Wildcards to Perks and Pointstreaks to Weapons but all still follow the traditional Call of Duty rank up to unlock before you are able to use a token to get them.
There is more of an incentive to Prestige, because for completionists out there you will not be able to unlock everything without having to Prestige. But David Vonderhaar also mentions, which is still being tinkered, that you can hold onto an unlock through all Prestiges like the Prestige Token system in MW3. He says they are in the process of making sure Prestige feels just as good.
Aggressive/Objective Players Rewarded More; Scoring System Explained
Treyarch have emphasised that they want to reward players who play the objective or otherwise are aggressive in game modes more than those who hang back. You will get more points for capping flags in Capture the Flag than killing enemies. Same goes for all other game modes; slayers will still get points per kill, but objective players will get more.
The Scoring system is still being hotly debated, related to how one is awarded with X amount of points. They argue that yes you will still be rewarded a certain amount for killing, but how much? Should the score be the same across all game modes or be different to further emphasise that objectives are more important? Vonderhaar explains that were still working through that.
Custom Emblems Returning and Major Improvements
Custom Emblems are set to make a reappearance for all artistic players out there. He also reveals that Treyarch will announce more details at the end of September.
Other Details
End-of-game Scoreboards will be detailed, like Black Ops I
Showing detailed stats determined on what game mode you played, e.g. domination flag captures, bombs planted/defused, etc.
No Pick-10 combination? Knife-only!
By not choosing any 10 combinations (which includes weapons), you will get a knife by default no matter what. Treyarch experimented with hands and fists but looked very unusual.
MW3 Killing Enemy Revenge Voice Reaction feature returns
Vonderhaar revealed that public games will have this feature when you kill someone and you can hear their reaction turned on automatically, toggle on or off in private/competitive matches. David Vonderhaar loves this feature.
Covered in Podcast
Perk Balance
On the subject of Perk Balance, a very controversial area of every Call of Duty, David Vonderhaar assures us that every perk can be tuned far more easier than before. The perk Awareness helps you hear movement noise (mantling, gear rattling, footsteps on types of ground which is variable, etc etc) and the perk Dead Silence takes the big noises (like footsteps) and reduces it but doesnt remove everything. He further clarifies that it is not a flat cancel [or, full counter], its a partial cancel. Still a lot of tweaking is required with these two perks, David reassures.
Having Flak Jacket on, not constituting as a full counter, doesnt mean you wont die to explosive damage.
Infinite Sprinting
No MW2-style Marathon perk at the moment Vonderhaar says, perhaps not completely ruling it out Extreme Conditioning is not currently infinite sprint, rather like COD4 and MW3 Extreme Conditioning. But he goes onto say that they probably wont change it to be honest and, from a technical view point, found many issues regarding sprinting infinitely like wrecking havoc with the spawning system.
Final Killcam System and Improvements
Vonderhaar explains how they are reviewing an upgrade so that the Final Killcam [Game Ending Killcam] is from the winning team, not necessarily the final kill and also answers a question about showing the final kill if that someone leaves the game prematurely, which in previous games doesnt show the Killcam: certain circumstances it might not show it, but we are looking into any issues. The Killcam should still show even if the player ejects his disc.
High Killstreak? Get a Medal!
If you are on a high kill streak, as in killing a lot of people without dying, you will get Medals. David doesnt clarify further how these will affect anything else like XP gained or receiving anything special but presumably youll get medals for capturing objectives consistently.
No Selling Back Gear
Treyarch experimented with selling back weapons, attachments and class items in the first Black Ops. It was scrapped before the game released, and Dan Amrich asked a similar question if you bought something with a token in this game, could you sell it back later? While they looked into this, they decided that this wasnt necessary because you have many opportunities in Black Ops II to get to play around with many combinations (league games or custom matches).
CODCasting Camera Support; PS3 uses Eye camera, Xbox LIVE Vision
They are still working out what cameras will be able to support picture-in-picture CODCasting; USB cameras like the Xbox LIVE Vision and PLAYSTATION Eye will work for broadcasting face cam. They discuss the Xbox Kinect and how many people will have one positioned on their TV, but David Vonderhaar doesnt confirm if Kinect will be supported, citing that its a motion camera and are not sure if they can make it work for their system.
Livestreaming working on 360, PS3; PC system undecided
David Vonderhaar confirms that the Xbox 360 version of Livestreaming/CODCasting is working very well, as is the PS3 version. However, he says that because PC gamers have a vast array of programs that could possibly deliver better livestreaming performance than what they are offering but are looking into it.
End-of-game Scoreboards will be detailed, like Black Ops I
Showing detailed stats determined on what game mode you played, e.g. domination flag captures, bombs planted/defused, etc.
No Pick-10 combination? Knife-only!
By not choosing any 10 combinations (which includes weapons), you will get a knife by default no matter what. Treyarch experimented with hands and fists but looked very unusual.
MW3 Killing Enemy Revenge Voice Reaction feature returns
Vonderhaar revealed that public games will have this feature when you kill someone and you can hear their reaction turned on automatically, toggle on or off in private/competitive matches. David Vonderhaar loves this feature.
Covered in Podcast
Perk Balance
On the subject of Perk Balance, a very controversial area of every Call of Duty, David Vonderhaar assures us that every perk can be tuned far more easier than before. The perk Awareness helps you hear movement noise (mantling, gear rattling, footsteps on types of ground which is variable, etc etc) and the perk Dead Silence takes the big noises (like footsteps) and reduces it but doesnt remove everything. He further clarifies that it is not a flat cancel [or, full counter], its a partial cancel. Still a lot of tweaking is required with these two perks, David reassures.
Having Flak Jacket on, not constituting as a full counter, doesnt mean you wont die to explosive damage.
Infinite Sprinting
No MW2-style Marathon perk at the moment Vonderhaar says, perhaps not completely ruling it out Extreme Conditioning is not currently infinite sprint, rather like COD4 and MW3 Extreme Conditioning. But he goes onto say that they probably wont change it to be honest and, from a technical view point, found many issues regarding sprinting infinitely like wrecking havoc with the spawning system.
Final Killcam System and Improvements
Vonderhaar explains how they are reviewing an upgrade so that the Final Killcam [Game Ending Killcam] is from the winning team, not necessarily the final kill and also answers a question about showing the final kill if that someone leaves the game prematurely, which in previous games doesnt show the Killcam: certain circumstances it might not show it, but we are looking into any issues. The Killcam should still show even if the player ejects his disc.
High Killstreak? Get a Medal!
If you are on a high kill streak, as in killing a lot of people without dying, you will get Medals. David doesnt clarify further how these will affect anything else like XP gained or receiving anything special but presumably youll get medals for capturing objectives consistently.
No Selling Back Gear
Treyarch experimented with selling back weapons, attachments and class items in the first Black Ops. It was scrapped before the game released, and Dan Amrich asked a similar question if you bought something with a token in this game, could you sell it back later? While they looked into this, they decided that this wasnt necessary because you have many opportunities in Black Ops II to get to play around with many combinations (league games or custom matches).
CODCasting Camera Support; PS3 uses Eye camera, Xbox LIVE Vision
They are still working out what cameras will be able to support picture-in-picture CODCasting; USB cameras like the Xbox LIVE Vision and PLAYSTATION Eye will work for broadcasting face cam. They discuss the Xbox Kinect and how many people will have one positioned on their TV, but David Vonderhaar doesnt confirm if Kinect will be supported, citing that its a motion camera and are not sure if they can make it work for their system.
Livestreaming working on 360, PS3; PC system undecided
David Vonderhaar confirms that the Xbox 360 version of Livestreaming/CODCasting is working very well, as is the PS3 version. However, he says that because PC gamers have a vast array of programs that could possibly deliver better livestreaming performance than what they are offering but are looking into it.
FloorGeneral
I don't even know anymore...
No infinite sprint will piss me the fukk off. They better put that shyt in the game. Other than that though, I have to confess that I'm actually looking forward to BO2. If they can get the connection/hit detection issues right (a BIG if), it should be the best in the series by far.
Christian3o5
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there should be a Coli Tournament 2 weeks after the game comes out 
there should be a Coli Tournament 2 weeks after the game comes out
Oh there will be one
Christian3o5
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Coach Gully
Much Respect
Damn I used to be heavy into COD, I get them first day every year but this might be the game that drags me back for good.
