The Brandon Miller Pro Thread

[GOAT]

Thinking someone can only be criticized if they were charged with a crime is wild. Was Ja charged with a crime? Was Kyrie charged with a crime? Was Udoka charged with a crime? Was Sarver charged with a crime? So it's okay to criticize everyone else in the NBA for their off-court behavior, just not the guy who is transporting guns to demons?

And the text made clear to anyone who can read that there was a conflict going on. If Miles had used less slang, and Miller had replied to the text to prove he knew about it, he would likely have been charged as accessory. The fact that there is plausible deniability that he read it and plausible deniability in what Miles's statement exactly meant are what saved him.

Oh, so you mean if he had been an accessory he'd have been charged as an accessory

 

[Apprentice]

@42 Monks name the la

"Accomplice" isn't even a legal term in the Alabama criminal code. It's just "accessory" or "complicity". The Alabama law that is colloquially called the "accomplice law" sometimes can result in Death Penalty charges for doing even less than Miller did.


Section 13A-2-23

Criminal liability based upon behavior of another - Complicity.

A person is legally accountable for the behavior of another constituting a criminal offense if, with the intent to promote or assist the commission of the offense:

(1) He procures, induces or causes such other person to commit the offense; or

(2) He aids or abets such other person in committing the offense; or

(3) Having a legal duty to prevent the commission of the offense, he fails to make an effort he is legally required to make.

(Acts 1977, No. 607, p. 812, §415.)

2018 Code of Alabama :: Title 13A - CRIMINAL CODE. :: Chapter 2 - PRINCIPLES OF CRIMINAL LIABILITY. :: Article 2 - Parties to Offenses. :: Section 13A-2-23 - Criminal liability based upon behavior of another - Complicity.

Ala. Code § 13A-2-23 - Criminal liability based upon behavior of another - Complicity. from 2018 Code of Alabama

law.justia.com

Like I said, he's only saved by the plausible deniability that Miles was going to do anything illegal. But any reasonable person knows that someone begging you for a gun at 1am in the morning isn't going to have many legal uses for it. Even if he was "only" brandishing, even if he was "only" going to threaten someone, those are both illegal so it's still criminal liability based on Section 13A-2-23 and that in turn would make him liable for everything that played out from there.

bra did u follow the case? TPD said Miller was already enroute to scoop Miles before Miles sent the text he need his gun

The gun was already in the whip and he was they ride home

Case is closed on his part, give it up family

 

[triplehate]

I'm locking him in as a bust. Because even if he plays good I can just move the goalpost to fit my argument

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Thread derailed already. There's a thread to talk about the shooting. No need to discuss it here.

Yea I ain’t even gon reply to bra he on sum other shyt

Brandon Miller will be the best Hornets draft pick in 10 years

One of the greatest college performances I seen given the circumstances

That's amazing how you jumped from "That's right, don't talk about the murder" to "Man, the way that kid responded to being involved in a murder is so impressive!"

I guess it's okay to talk about the murder when we're praising Miller, just not if we have an issue with it.

 

[42 Monks]

is anyone supposed to want a guy who was essentially wrong place wrong time to have his life ruined wtf is wrong with yal lmao

this is not some community terrorist crash test dummy looking to project power and fear over everyone around him. if the law can't discern the difference between a serial offender who deserves to catch the whole book and someone who failed to predict the future then its way worse out here than many think

Naw fam u slighting this nikka crazy

South Carolina game came right at the apex of the whole controversy, SC were 16 point underdogs and nobody else but B Mill impacted that game

Ain’t no such thing as suspect release fam, especially if it’s cashing

In the NBA, there’s elite guards all over; elite wings tho? Nah

Cam Whitmore ain’t on bro level imo time will tell tho

they were 10-17 at the time. pardon me for being skeptical about the prominence of a team that won one more game after that all year

and i don't even think its a wild statement to prefer scoot, cam, and one less first in next year's horrendous draft than brandon, nick smith, and amari bailey

that's my guy now and i want to see him succeed, but im not big on gassing anyone. i didn't even give scoot those rose or ja comps either.

 

[Apprentice]

That's amazing how you jumped from "That's right, don't talk about the murder" to "Man, the way that kid responded to being involved in a murder is so impressive!"

I guess it's okay to talk about the murder when we're praising Miller, just not if we have an issue with it.

The murder happened months before this game

The relevance is he was being heckled tremendously by fans and the media despite not being charged wit a crime and still balled out on the road

The difference is, I’m talking basketball; you’re clearly in this bytch dapfishing that’s why u went out your way to angry emoticon my posts

U grandstanding, u not gettin another reply out of me; u ain’t even watch college ball

 

[GOAT]

@Rhakim Did you already make your annual announcement of your permanent departure from this site (as if anyone cares) only to come back a week later like nothing happened? Or is that next month?

 

[Professor Emeritus]

bra did u follow the case? TPD said Miller was already enroute to scoop Miles before Miles sent the text he need his gun

The gun was already in the whip and he was they ride home

Case is closed on his part, give it up family

Nice goalpost shift. You jumped super quick from "I'm on dean's list for criminal justice and you don't know the definition of accomplice!" to making brand new excuses. You tried to brag about knowing the legal definition of a word that doesn't even appear in the requisite parts of the Alabama legal code.


If he saw the text, and could read the obvious indication that Miles was looking to do something not legal with that gun, then he's an accessory. He only got off because he didn't reply so they can't "prove" he had read the text, and the slang in the text made Miles's intentions less clear to a police officer, but you know full well he saw that shyt and knew Miles wasn't asking him to bring the gun so he could clean it. The culpability was there whether he was already in route or not.

 

[Apprentice]

lol cuz think I’m bout to spend my Saturday arguing wit him about a case he didn’t follow and player he ain’t watch

Y’all nikkas wild on the internet

Brandon Miller gon have a better career than scoot y’all can book it

Ignore heem @ me when nikkas start talkin bout basketball

 

[42 Monks]

the amount of righteous self-fellating over this is actually more interesting than any hoops discussion at this point

debating if a kid should hold a felony based off of whether he read a text or not is not how im spending saturday

 

[Professor Emeritus]

is anyone supposed to want a guy who was essentially wrong place wrong time to have his life ruined wtf is wrong with yal lmao

this is not some community terrorist crash test dummy looking to project power and fear over everyone around him. if the law can't discern the difference between a serial offender who deserves to catch the whole book and someone who failed to predict the future then its way worse out here than many think

Are those the only two options? Have his life ruined or get off scot free and we never talk about it again?

Ja has taken tons of heat and punishments for his playing around with guns, but was his life ruined? Of course not, he still has chances. I don't want anyone's life ruined, but sadly, 3 people's lives WERE ruined. I just want appropriate responsibility for the people involved and not this "get off scot-free and you ain't even allowed to talk about it again" bullshyt.

Personally, I think he should have been suspended from the team. I think an example needed to be made. That's the only punishment I've ever advocated for. And I think it's perfectly fair for people to still hold a grudge against him when he's never clear repented and apologized for his full role, but just been as full of excuses as his stans.

 

[Henry Orbit]

Breh, let’s just win a play-in game first

 

[JUSTIN HERBERT]

But Luka gets a bust watch thread eh

 

[Professor Emeritus]

lol cuz think I’m bout to spend my Saturday arguing wit him about a case he didn’t follow and player he ain’t watch

How can you claim I didn't follow the case when I was all up in the thread like crazy from the moment it popped off? Receipts are right there.

It's funny to see you get caught interpreting law wrong, brag about your credentials, get called out with receipts proving you interpreted it wrong, and then move the goalposts and start lashing out personally just cause you got your feelings hurt.

Brandon Miller gon have a better career than scoot y’all can book it

Which will have literally nothing to do with what I think about him as a person or whether I ever root for him.


You were angry that Lebron didn't get suspended for failing to socially distance, but bringing up a player's involvement in an actual murder is just too unfair.

 

[42 Monks]

Are those the only two options? Have his life ruined or get off scot free and we never talk about it again?

Ja has taken tons of heat and punishments for his playing around with guns, but was his life ruined? Of course not, he still has chances. I don't want anyone's life ruined, but sadly, 3 people's lives WERE ruined. I just want appropriate responsibility for the people involved and not this "get off scot-free and you ain't even allowed to talk about it again" bullshyt.

Personally, I think he should have been suspended from the team. I think an example needed to be made. That's the only punishment I've ever advocated for. And I think it's perfectly fair for people to still hold a grudge against him when he's never clear repented and apologized for his full role, but just been as full of excuses as his stans.

comparing ja and miller should paint a very clear picture regarding character, history of repeat indiscretions, and individual response to criticisms/scrutiny so i don't even know why you'd bother with that.

write a congressman if you feel that strongly over the resolution. im not cheering for a guy to have his life derailed over a dumb decision that his friend roped him into, destroying several lives in the process. even if he wasn't on this team, i'd feel the same way.

too many are in jail for this type of.... whatever the fukk this is lol