The Book of Enoch

[Czar]

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[Czar]

Thinking about it just now, I'ma give Enoch another good read. There's gotta be a reason why Jude 1:14 quotes Enoch 60:8.

 

[MostReal]

I have all 3 books of Enoch. The Ethiopic book of Enoch (1 Enoch) is the only one I would say is worthy to be quoted as scripture. Jude quoted from it and reading it, I can see a lot of Old and New Testament stuff fleshed out in it, in particular the Nephilim and their fathers. IMO, the other 2 books were created to discredit 1 Enoch due to a somewhat reenactment of the days of Noah that's about to occur in the near future. In fact, I think it's starting to happen now with the promotion of transhumanism

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The book of Enoch is a very important book and it exposes a lot about what is going on in this world now. I'll expound on it later

 

[LionofJudah]

There is a misinterpretation on his part. These watchers were given jobs to do and they didn't follow through. Problem with it is Jesus( not his name) doesn't have a job to do until after he is introduced in other chapters as God's Son. Don't assume cause one angel had that job before the J man it discredits the whole book. I check the video out later.

We'll probably have to agree to disagree on this one. I've only read bits and pieces of both Jasher and Enoch, but the Bible that we do have (for me OT, NT and the Apocrypha) make perfect sense to me. If something doesn't line up to what we already have, odds are we should be cautious about its source. Truthfully I'd really only read both those books to try to debunk them.

 

[thekingsmen]

We'll probably have to agree to disagree on this one. I've only read bits and pieces of both Jasher and Enoch, but the Bible that we do have (for me OT, NT and the Apocrypha) make perfect sense to me. If something doesn't line up to what we already have, odds are we should be cautious about its source. Truthfully I'd really only read both those books to try to debunk them.

Enoch Book isn't about debunking the Bible but to take pieces that were missing in Genesis and make sense. Remember Council of Nicaea changed alot of stuff around. Alot of it was switched to fit their narrative as a church. They are the true evil.

 

[LionofJudah]

Enoch Book isn't about debunking the Bible but to take pieces that were missing in Genesis and make sense. Remember Council of Nicaea changed alot of stuff around. Alot of it was switched to fit their narrative as a church. They are the true evil.

Here's my thing though breh-we all regard the OT and NT as canonical scripture. Without having read the book of Enoch myself, I think it would be very easy for a book to be crafted around the Bible or at least parts of it which could be completely not true, although it's going to seem as if it could be true because it's just adding in details which wasn't included or expounded upon in the original material. So when something that comes along presumably much later to 'fill in the blanks', I'm highly skeptical about it. I deal with the Apocrypha because I don't see anything that contradicts the scriptures, it was originally part of the KJV before being taking out much later, and it also serves as the inter-testamental period between the OT and NT. For me it passes the smell test, I don't think the book of Enoch does at this point of having not read it. The Phanuel angel thing to me seems EXTREMELY off though.

 

[Marvel]

Here's my thing though breh-we all regard the OT and NT as canonical scripture. Without having read the book of Enoch myself, I think it would be very easy for a book to be crafted around the Bible or at least parts of it which could be completely not true, although it's going to seem as if it could be true because it's just adding in details which wasn't included or expounded upon in the original material. So when something that comes along presumably much later to 'fill in the blanks', I'm highly skeptical about it. I deal with the Apocrypha because I don't see anything that contradicts the scriptures, it was originally part of the KJV before being taking out much later, and it also serves as the inter-testamental period between the OT and NT. For me it passes the smell test, I don't think the book of Enoch does at this point of having not read it. The Phanuel angel thing to me seems EXTREMELY off though.

Read it breh. I avoided reading it for years until now. I do agree that the KJV is fine as it is without it.

 

[LionofJudah]

Read it breh. I avoided reading it for years until now. I do agree that the KJV is fine as it is without it.

Yeah, I might check it out. But knowing some of what I know about the fake book of Jasher, it really makes me not want to go outside the widely regarded canonical scriptures.

 

[Marvel]

Thinking about it just now, I'ma give Enoch another good read. There's gotta be a reason why Jude 1:14 quotes Enoch 60:8.

Jude 1

14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,

15 To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.

This is Jude quoting Enoch saying basically saying that Enoch was shown God's judgement on mankind. It looks like to me that they had access to the book. To me, the Book of Enoch does not read as heresy because it is aligned with the rest of the Bible. In this instance, I think that people should make the decisions on this according to the own measure of their faith.

 

[Marvel]

Yeah, I might check it out. But knowing some of what I know about the fake book of Jasher, it really makes me not want to go outside the widely regarded canonical scriptures.

I haven't read Jasher yet. I rarely hear people recommend it. I will read that too and see how I feel about. I need to get on the Apocrypha as well.

 

[MostReal]

That book exposes a lot of things and its a reason why it was left out.

Enoch Book isn't about debunking the Bible but to take pieces that were missing in Genesis and make sense. Remember Council of Nicaea changed alot of stuff around. Alot of it was switched to fit their narrative as a church. They are the true evil.

someone else understands

 

[MostReal]

Watch the entire vid but pay close attention to what the black lady says at 11:33


the description of the Fallen Angels offspring is why this book was left out of the bible.

 

[Bed$tuy]

Anymore insightful views?

 

[Spiritual Stratocaster]

There was a period of time last year where I felt I was speaking to God..or rather he to me.

One day I broke down crying and said to myself "I'm a Prophet of God".

I suddenly had the urge to read the Qur'an, Bible,Book of Mormon and Book of Enoch.

If Enoch was righteous and you believe God took him to heaven than why not include his prophetic word?


I've prayed on it and I believe God has told me the Book of Enoch is true and deserves to be 'canon'.

 

[New Jeruzalem Journalist]

It's been years since I've read even parts of The Book of Enoch, but I'm named after the Quranic/Arabic account of Prophet Enoch, so I always took interest in his story.

Traditional Islamic theology credits Enoch (Idris) with the development/mastery of writing and being the only man other than Jesus who didn't undergo a physical death.