"The Birmingham Screwjob" 15 years later

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Owen should have been elevated to main event status after Bret left

Problem was he was in a tough spot, Shawn was afraid to work with him( he really was kliq can't spin that) and when Austin got the top spot he ain't want to work with him either( SummerSlam 1997).

Dude was in a tough spot(no ocean)
 

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Things like this is why I'll never take Shawn Michaels seriously

He does all he can to change a match outcome to a W for him, claiming it's "right for business".....then when he finds out he's losing to someone (like Hogan), he wants to make a mockery of the match by overselling instead of being professional and doing the job. And this was after he became a Christian. It's still real to him, dammit :smh:
 

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Things like this is why I'll never take Shawn Michaels seriously

He does all he can to change a match outcome to a W for him, claiming it's "right for business".....then when he finds out he's losing to someone (like Hogan), he wants to make a mockery of the match by overselling instead of being professional and doing the job. And this was after he became a Christian. It's still real to him, dammit :smh:

:gladbron: Powerful Posting man.The thing is Shawn doesn't remember all the bad things he does at times. Funny he says him winning at that ppv was good, hell took him 13 years to say it. I'm pretty sure he chose to ignore half the stuff he did, yeah right for business. thats why wwf almost went out.

Anyone sit through that Bret and Shawn DVD, all that stuff Shawn did he hardly remembered :laugh:

People can say ahh shawn doesn't take the business that seriously, bret this bret that. But the truth is Shawn does take the business seriously, or else he wouldn't have came back in 2002.dedication like they say. The stans can't have it both ways.

When it comes to Shawns flaws, hes still the same guy underneath it all. People don't change, they just hide they flaws better as they get older.
Shawn still didn't like jobbing during his last run, he said it himself.

when the shawn stans say that whole sad how the business is still real to them (fans) comment is just a cop-out
 

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Bret and Jim, two of the biggest drama queens in wrestling

It's no wonder they both have Meltzer on speed dial :steviej:

You only say that because they both buried Michaels in the past, stop. Your WRONG. You really have nothing to say b, you my dude for real. but

Shawn is the biggest drama queen in wrestling, he ruined so many PPVS. You can claim the business is still real to me, but thats admitting defeat. Because you got nothing else to say. Whats right for business and what you like are two different things.

Shawn wouldn't have went out of his way to change the bookings. If what he did was right for business, I fail to see it. Yeah WWF almost went out of business that year because of him. Hahah and you guys have the balls to make fun of and criticize Hogan for doing the same thing, at least he drew money. One of the only reasons Vince kept Shawn around was because he had a man-crush on him. I never seen anyone pull so much stuff backstage and still kept around. I seen Hogan,Ultimate Warrior and so many others get released for less. Vince had something Sexual with Shawn.

You can say he had talent and all of that, but so did everyone else that got let go. The difference with them is they drew money, so releasing them didn't make that sense because they never pulled the amount of stuff Shawn did.

No other way to explain it then saying Shawn and Vince had something. Add coke and all those other pills into the equation and it makes sense.


You guys can turn that around and make that a win though I guess.
 

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HBGOAT ruins ppvs :what:

Making up homosexual scenarios :scusthov:


Don't make me tool up breh :upsetfavre:

With his bookings, I'm a shawn fan breh. buts Lets not act like somethings aren't as they're are :win:

He did have some trick made tendencies. Making up homesexual scenarios isn't that hard when we got the greatest playgirl issue known to man :ahh:
 

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You only say that because they both buried Michaels in the past, stop. Your WRONG. You really have nothing to say b, you my dude for real. but

Shawn is the biggest drama queen in wrestling, he ruined so many PPVS. You can claim the business is still real to me, but thats admitting defeat. Because you got nothing else to say. Whats right for business and what you like are two different things.

Shawn wouldn't have went out of his way to change the bookings. If what he did was right for business, I fail to see it. Yeah WWF almost went out of business that year because of him. Hahah and you guys have the balls to make fun of and criticize Hogan for doing the same thing, at least he drew money. One of the only reasons Vince kept Shawn around was because he had a man-crush on him. I never seen anyone pull so much stuff backstage and still kept around. I seen Hogan,Ultimate Warrior and so many others get released for less. Vince had something Sexual with Shawn.

You can say he had talent and all of that, but so did everyone else that got let go. The difference with them is they drew money, so releasing them didn't make that sense because they never pulled the amount of stuff Shawn did.

No other way to explain it then saying Shawn and Vince had something. Add coke and all those other pills into the equation and it makes sense.


You guys can turn that around and make that a win though I guess.


shawn was never a booker, except in his TWA promotion in 1999-2000

vince made the final call

Man crush or "sexual thing"? make up ya mind breh.

Shawn simply gave him better ideas to run with, and Coke Boy Vince just happened to run with them

Shawn and Coke boy always treated it like a biz... Drama queens like Bret and Jim Cornette acted like it was real life, their characters on TV were exactly like their actual self. Thats the difference

All that fantasy homo stuff is grasping at straws. kliq haters stay furious even to this day


Things like this is why I'll never take Shawn Michaels seriously

He does all he can to change a match outcome to a W for him, claiming it's "right for business".....then when he finds out he's losing to someone (like Hogan), he wants to make a mockery of the match by overselling instead of being professional and doing the job. And this was after he became a Christian. It's still real to him, dammit :smh:

lol at this fantasy booking

Bruno, Macho Man, Warrior, CM Punk, HHH, etc. y'all have no problem when they shyt on Hogan

But when HBK does it y'all get hurt

I literally think it's some underlying homotional thing here. Y'all were lil boys and HBK turned you on. Y'all discovered your homosexuality at a young age and were teased growing up. Y'all still repressed homosexuals to this day, and you blame HBK because your father was never there. That's gotta be the explanation.
 

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I literally think it's some underlying homotional thing here. Y'all were lil boys and HBK turned you on. Y'all discovered your homosexuality at a young age and were teased growing up. Y'all still repressed homosexuals to this day, and you blame HBK because your father was never there. That's gotta be the explanation.

All mad that he wasn't their boy toy.
 

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Bruno, Macho Man, Warrior, CM Punk, HHH, etc. y'all have no problem when they shyt on Hogan

But when HBK does it y'all get hurt

I literally think it's some underlying homotional thing here. Y'all were lil boys and HBK turned you on. Y'all discovered your homosexuality at a young age and were teased growing up. Y'all still repressed homosexuals to this day, and you blame HBK because your father was never there. That's gotta be the explanation.

:whoo:
 

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Bruno, Macho Man, Warrior, CM Punk, HHH, etc. y'all have no problem when they shyt on Hogan

But when HBK does it y'all get hurt

It's one thing to shoot on someone away from the show; it's another thing to let that shyt seep into the actual show/matches without it being scripted, and without the knowledge or approval of the other party. HBK did this, and got away with it because of his status in the company. You'd think he would have learned after he almost got his ass kicked over the Sunny Days comment.

I don't have a problem with any true criticism HBK has for Hogan IRL. But the fact is, he deliberately tried to make that Hogan match look like a joke, just because Hogan pulled the EXACT same bullshyt he used to pull, by controlling the feud and demanding a W in that match. Instead of just "following instructions" like he claimed to do during the Screwjob, he acted like a child that goes full-body limp and refuses to get up and walk after his mother tells him he has to go to school....on some "I'm only going if you drag me there because I'm not walking". The overselling was childish and unprofessional.

Whenever Hogan does that shyt, controlling feuds and trying not to look too overpowered in the ring (like when he allegedly sandbagged Taker's chokeslam), everybody rightfully calls him out on it. Hell, I'm still mad about WM9 myself. Yet somehow it's a problem when HBK gets criticized for the same shyt :smh: and then the excuses come out: "He was doing what's right for the business" or "pro wrestling is competitive behind the scenes and you gotta look out for yourself"
 

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shawn was never a booker, except in his TWA promotion in 1999-2000

vince made the final call

Man crush or "sexual thing"? make up ya mind breh.

Shawn simply gave him better ideas to run with, and Coke Boy Vince just happened to run with them

Shawn and Coke boy always treated it like a biz... Drama queens like Bret and Jim Cornette acted like it was real life, their characters on TV were exactly like their actual self. Thats the difference

All that fantasy homo stuff is grasping at straws. kliq haters stay furious even to this day




lol at this fantasy booking

Bruno, Macho Man, Warrior, CM Punk, HHH, etc. y'all have no problem when they shyt on Hogan

But when HBK does it y'all get hurt

I literally think it's some underlying homotional thing here. Y'all were lil boys and HBK turned you on. Y'all discovered your homosexuality at a young age and were teased growing up. Y'all still repressed homosexuals to this day, and you blame HBK because your father was never there. That's gotta be the explanation.

All mad that he wasn't their boy toy.


weak move henzo because you edited your post.That reply was only 2 sentences before. Your still my boys though. :lolbron:
 

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i heard it was in hbks contract that he would never lose to bulldog and he never did :manny:
 
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