The atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki: Do you agree with Truman's decision?

[Pressure]

Well even according to this so called “scholar” and his definition of “peace” which is rather Orwellian, the structures of society had experienced more upheaval in Europe and the United Stayes during the post war period domestically than any other periods preceding it; civil rights as a perfect example.
Rather to me the only unquestioned stable by product of the post war dynamic was the American hegemony and imperialism that permeated thoroughly during that so called peace period.

To refer to a period as peaceful after acknowledging the widespread deaths and tribulations experienced by the brunt of humanity is already ghoulish on its face. Adding to that however that it was peaceful because the structures of power remained “stable” adds another level of grotesque delusion to the matter.

The restaraunt food is “delicious” not because it tastes good, but because the servers are white.

Are you in good faith attempting argue:

1. We have seen less major conflicts between world powers?
2. When we do see conflicts there is less death per 100k?
3. That since WWII society has experienced modernization at a rate much higher than any time before?

I'd also argue that your view of what is peace is largely more stringent due to the more peaceful world you've lived in as a result of WWII's conclusion. The very fact that you're only speaking on local, regional, and civil war kind of affirms the thesis. Perspective matters.

 

[wire28]

 

[Mook]

"opportunity and pretext to use new toys "

I do not agree with Truman's decision

This was a great decision in hindsight. if people didn't see the destruction it caused, I have no doubt we wouldn't have made it pass the fifties without nukes being used. The two dropped showed the power of the weapon and made everyone fear it as they should.

 

[Matt504]

This was a great decision in hindsight. if people didn't see the destruction it caused, I have no doubt we wouldn't have made it pass the fifties without nukes being used. The two dropped showed the power of the weapon and made everyone fear it as they should.

Hey, I'm a "look at the bright side" kinda guy as well but seeing the good in the outcome of a terrible decisions doesn't make the decision good.

 

[Marks]

It absolutely destroyed the Japanese spirit which I think was the goal. Japan wasn't gonna go quietly, everybody supposed to fight and go out standing was apart of their culture thanks to Emperor and propaganda. America had bombed everything to shyt already, I forgot the numbers but something like majority of urban and metropolitan areas in Japan were completely flattened already by time they drop the A bombs. On one occasion America ran fire bomb runs for 2 days straight in and around Tokyo. Something like 200k civillians estimated to have been killed. They actually warned pilots that if they got shot down to get to the ocean ASAP because Japanese civillians would probably do them bad in retaliation.

 

[Loose]

This was a great decision in hindsight. if people didn't see the destruction it caused, I have no doubt we wouldn't have made it pass the fifties without nukes being used. The two dropped showed the power of the weapon and made everyone fear it as they should.

Yeah this a good point i haven't thought about

 

[88m3]

idk

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

This was a great decision in hindsight. if people didn't see the destruction it caused, I have no doubt we wouldn't have made it pass the fifties without nukes being used. The two dropped showed the power of the weapon and made everyone fear it as they should.

Not to mention, a full scale invasion of Japan would’ve probably had far more casualties.

 

[Secure Da Bag]

Oh, I know. Our nation was built upon it. The US has been at conflict in all but like 12 years of it’s existence. It only knows war.

Curious. What 12 years is that?

 

[Secure Da Bag]

You're unfamiliar with this? It's fairly common knowledge. You're an immigrant and live in Canada now so this may not have been discussed in your primary education.

Long Peace - Wikipedia.

I guess they don't count Afghanistan then.

 

[acri1]

Absolutely. It ended war and ushered in the most peaceful era in modern history. Most of the advancements, freedom of movement and safeguards are a result of that display of power.

I expect this thread to be full of folks who will he critical of this decision while also cheerleadong for Iran and other countries to have nuclear weapons because to the deterrence they offer will allow those countries "freedom."

Only the most depraved of American sociopaths would think mass murdering civilians was correct.

Them's fighting words

 

[Take It In Blood]

Nope


Nukes should never have been used

 

[Pressure]

I guess they don't count Afghanistan then.

This is an idiotic post looking to stir the pot, but failed.

 

[Pressure]

Them's fighting words

That man said he doesn't even fight for local issues because we can't make change.

These dudes are just disgruntled anticapitalist.

 

[Secure Da Bag]

This is an idiotic post looking to stir the pot, but failed.

Stir what pot?

Look at that projection though.