That last Rebel in Academia! Merit, Not race in College admissions

[VerbalIntercourse]

Merit, Not Race in College Admissions - Room for Debate - NYTimes.com

Rely on Merit, Not Race
Stephen Hsu

Stephen Hsu is professor of theoretical physics at the University of Oregon and director of its Institute for Theoretical Science. He is the founder of two Silicon Valley information security startups and writes the blog Information Processing.

In comprehensive statistics compiled as part of Duke University’s Campus Life and Learning project, Asian-American students averaged 1457 out of 1600 on the math and reading portion of the SAT, compared to 1416 for whites, 1347 for Hispanics and 1275 for blacks. There is every reason to believe that a similar pattern holds at almost every elite university in America, with some notable exceptions like Caltech. Is this pattern justifiable, or even beneficial to the students with the lowest scores?

Race-based preference produces a population of students whose average intellectual strength varies strongly according to race. Surely this is opposite to the meritocratic ideal and highly corrosive to the atmosphere on campus. Furthermore, the evidence is strong that students of weaker ability who are admitted via preference do not close the gap during college. For these reasons, the Supreme Court would be wise to end the practice of race-based preference in college admissions

 

[Rekkapryde]

So I guess Colleges will start being filled with a bunch of Asian Americans?

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

So I guess Colleges will start being filled with a bunch of Asian Americans?

If America worked on merit, Upper Management of most corps would be Indian or Asian....

And that's real talk

 

[Rekkapryde]

If America worked on merit, Upper Management of most corps would be Indian or Asian....

And that's real talk

Yup. And cacs won't like that. So before they try and shyt on us, they gonna hurt themselves more than us.

On the flipside, HBCU's would benefit more.

 

[69 others]

If America worked on merit, Upper Management of most corps would be Indian or Asian....

And that's real talk

not true. there is more to getting to upper management than good grades in school and there are good reasons why colleges don't rely on merit/top grades only: it's not a complete or even good measure of smart or how good they'll do in the future.

 

[Mook]

Yup. And cacs won't like that. So before they try and shyt on us, they gonna hurt themselves more than us.

On the flipside, HBCU's would benefit more.

Good. I'd rather be around brown and black apes than white Satans.

Top 2 school in the city across the street, bussed to bottom worst school not even in the city.

fukk YOU WHITE PHAKKOTS.

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[Rekkapryde]

Good. I'd rather be around brown and black apes than white Satans.

Top 2 school in the city across the street, bussed to bottom worst school not even in the city.

fukk YOU WHITE PHAKKOTS.

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you serious? how can they do that? Is it a magnet school or something?

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

not true. there is more to getting to upper management than good grades in school and there are good reasons why colleges don't rely on merit/top grades only: it's not a complete or even good measure of smart or how good they'll do in the future.

Not referring to school. I'm talking about job performance and work ethics in their respective fields.....

 

[theworldismine13]

Not referring to school. I'm talking about job performance and work ethics in their respective fields.....

hmm sounds like you are just playing off stereotypes tho, like were would black people end up in this pure meritocracy that you envision? what level of job performance and work ethic do you see in black people? what do you think the pyramid would look like aside from asians and indians at the top?

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

hmm sounds like you are just playing off stereotypes tho, like were would black people end up in this pure meritocracy that you envision? what level of job performance and work ethic do you see in black people?

You really wanna go there?

And no, I'm not playing off of stereotypes.

 

[69 others]

Not referring to school. I'm talking about job performance and work ethics in their respective fields.....

still not true cause no one measures that so how can you even say that without seeing some type of data on that.

 

[theworldismine13]

You really wanna go there?

And no, I'm not playing off of stereotypes.

of course i want to go there, that is why i asked, dont bring up stuff if you dont want to talk about it

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

At the end of the day, first generation Indians\Asians in the corporate work force aren't being outworked by blacks or whites..and I attribute that to cultural differences......

 

[69 others]

At the end of the day, first generation Indians\Asians in the corporate work force aren't being outworked by blacks or whites..and I attribute that to cultural differences......

man stop talking out your ass a matter of fact what the hell are you even talking about or getting at?

 

[theworldismine13]

At the end of the day, first generation Indians\Asians in the corporate work force aren't being outworked by blacks or whites..and I attribute that to cultural differences......

so according to you, what does the rest of the meritocratic pyramid look like, in other words who has better job performance and work ethic? black people or white people? what about latinos?

im just curious