Tesla unveils "textured glass tile" solar roofs

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you should read the 10k report for Solar City.

The cost on this stuff is still prohibitive and dependent on government subsidies, which are dying off (at least in the USA). Plus there have been some inherent miscalculations in the generosity of the electric industry to allow citizens to sell power back using it's transmission lines. I mean they will allow it but you gotta pay to sell. Now that a lot of the energy industry has retooled their costs to accurately charge residents for their portion of the grid costs when they are selling electricity back the ROI is not as good

Truth...they know how to hype their shyt up....this time i hope they live up to it...im already having doubts about this tiled system and how little actual data there is on it...if it was better or at least on par with the most efficient panels right now youd think theyd be shouting their benchmark data from the rooftops.(pun intended)

it seems like this showmanship is meant to get investment and support but something isnt ready

 

[OsO]

you should read the 10k report for Solar City.

The cost on this stuff is still prohibitive and dependent on government subsidies, which are dying off (at least in the USA). Plus there have been some inherent miscalculations in the generosity of the electric industry to allow citizens to sell power back using it's transmission lines. I mean they will allow it but you gotta pay to sell. Now that a lot of the energy industry has retooled their costs to accurately charge residents for their portion of the grid costs when they are selling electricity back the ROI is not as good

The government should be subsidizing this stuff no question. Just shows politicians are still taking orders from big gas and oil. We should vote them all out of office this election for incompetence because in the real world when you don't do your job you get fired.

 

[Regular_P]

The government should be subsidizing this stuff no question. Just shows politicians are still taking orders from big gas and oil. We should vote them all out of office this election for incompetence because in the real world when you don't do your job you get fired.

 

[Broke Wave]

Tesla is the company to work for if you're in love with innovation.

Elon Musk and Tesla are what people thought Steve Jobs and Apple were.

One designed some "neato" consumer goods, and the other is trying to create world breaking technologies

 

[dtownreppin214]

game changer. i don't like the way solar panels look on rooftops. i have two on my shed roof, but didn't want to commit to it on my house. i'd go for these though.

yep i have a friend who works for solar city. he told me more people are turning them down these days b/c of the ugly look rather than the cost.

 

[Brown_Pride]

The government should be subsidizing this stuff no question. Just shows politicians are still taking orders from big gas and oil. We should vote them all out of office this election for incompetence because in the real world when you don't do your job you get fired.

Agreed. What they should really be subsidizing is the research into more innovation. A paradigm shift is coming eventually, but it'll take the tech being affordable and economical. Right now solar panels are the DVD player circa 1988, it's a novelty and more a proof of concept. Once that shyt is economical it'll catch like wildfire. Right now the battery tech isn't there and the installation prices are too high.

 

[blackzeus]

Damn the speculation. What is the initial cost to see if it's worth possibly saving half of your electric bill per month.

Are you willing to invest $25K to save $50/month?

 

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Are you willing to invest $25K to save $50/month?

At that rate its Paid off in only like 42 years




Right about the time the really good neighborhood turns into a slum

 

[hashmander]

Agreed. What they should really be subsidizing is the research into more innovation. A paradigm shift is coming eventually, but it'll take the tech being affordable and economical. Right now solar panels are the DVD player circa 1988, it's a novelty and more a proof of concept. Once that shyt is economical it'll catch like wildfire. Right now the battery tech isn't there and the installation prices are too high.

for me the battery tech comes first. once they have it to a point where i can store all that i generate cost effectively, i'm all in.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

The battery inverter will cost 6k the cells will probably be in the 25k range...at 30k it would take at least 10-20 years to pay itself off..You are basically setting shyt up for the next owner

Incorrect, but understandable. The SIR (Savings to Investment Ratio) for something that expensive would require approximately 200-300 years to pay back. To give you an example of what I'm talking about, a thermal-pane window to replace a standard window would take anywhere between 20-40 years to pay for itself in energy savings which is why it doesn't really pay to replace windows. They are basically poorly thought-out six square foot holes in the thermal/pressure barrier between the living space and the outside.

A roof doesn't save energy, the insulation installed under it (along with proper air-sealing) does.​

 

[ill]

For those looking at the economics of the rooftop panels by themselves - keep in mind that a new roof typically costs 10-20k. From my understanding, this roof will last 3x the lifetime of a typical shingle roof so in essence, it pays for itself.

 

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For those looking at the economics of the rooftop panels by themselves - keep in mind that a new roof typically costs 10-20k. From my understanding, this roof will last 3x the lifetime of a typical shingle roof so in essence, it pays for itself.

Elon musk is full of it and he doesnt know shyt about construction...A bundle of roofing shingles is only $25 or so...the materials dont cost much...even if you went with corrugated steel...unless you went super exotic and did slate composite or cedar its still somewhere like $70 a box

In fact Most of the 15-20k cost of replacing the roof is mostly labor and equipment rentals,...the scaffolding and crane or skyjack ,safety gear and 6-10 guys spending 3 days up there

Then consider these shingles are electric devices ...so now instead of just 6 regular guys...youll have to have 6 SKILLED TECHNICIANS on your roof for 3 days hooking these things up


Im not against the Idea...but some shyts not adding up

 

[Brown_Pride]

for me the battery tech comes first. once they have it to a point where i can store all that i generate cost effectively, i'm all in.

Yeah really that is the first step. Until a real battery is made that makes it so that you can survive a shady day without sitting in the dark solar will be a novelty.

 

[EndDomination]

yeah but it seems like haven't perfected anything at this point... cars blowing up, rockets blowing up, this solar glass will probably crack...

Their cars are on the road and fairly popular
Their rocket issues are an entirely seperate thing
I'll wait and see about their solar panels

 

[OsO]

Agreed. What they should really be subsidizing is the research into more innovation. A paradigm shift is coming eventually, but it'll take the tech being affordable and economical. Right now solar panels are the DVD player circa 1988, it's a novelty and more a proof of concept. Once that shyt is economical it'll catch like wildfire. Right now the battery tech isn't there and the installation prices are too high.

In terms of cost that's partly the government's job. Congress is supposed to regulate policy around Tesla in a way that helps cultivate's their business, but instead they're busy catering to whatever corporate donor they're obliged to. Until the technology catches up, the US government should be subsidizing costs for production and R&D so that Tesla can drive the price range down into something more affordable for the common person. But they're too greedy and too incompetent to do that, which is why we should vote them out this election.

We could literally save the world by making an effective switch to natural energy sources but instead these fools are too busy lining their pockets. It's disgusting.