Tesla share price route has shown us that it’s a car company not a Tech one and it’s CEO is very flawed

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Investors conclude that Tesla is a carmaker, not a tech firm​

A share-price rout suggests they no longer think it will take over the world​

NEW YORK, NEW YORK - JANUARY 03: A man walks near Tesla showroom on January 03, 2023 in New York City. Tesla Inc. shares started 2023 by plunging more than 13% as they fell to $106.50 a share . (Photo by Leonardo Munoz/VIEWpress)

Jan 4th 2023
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After tesla’s market capitalisation swept past that of Toyota, then the world’s most valuable car company, in the summer of 2020, devoted fans and incredulous sceptics deployed a new unit of measurement. As the electric-vehicle (ev) champion’s share price rose, its worth was couched in terms of the combined value of the next two, then five, then ten biggest carmakers. A year ago Tesla’s market value surpassed $1.2trn, more than most other car companies put together. Since then it has lost 71% of that—a sum exceeding the value of most of the industry. The fortune of its mercurial boss, Elon Musk, has shrivelled by more than $200bn as a result.

The latest blow came on January 3rd, after Tesla missed analysts’ expectations for deliveries for the third quarter in a row and reported that the gap between production and deliveries had grown, suggesting softening demand for its evs. It lost 12% of its value—roughly $50bn, or one Ford Motor Company—in a day. Even bullish investors now doubt that Mr Musk will fulfil his promise of making 20m cars a year by 2030, or that Tesla’s ”Autopilot” is close to becoming a world-changing fully autonomous driving system. Yet the main reason for the market’s recalibration of Tesla’s prospects is a dawning realisation that the company is chiefly a carmaker—and that its boss is not superhuman.

Mr Musk has always regarded his company as a tech firm, a peer of digital giants like Alphabet, Apple or Meta, not of old-economy metal-bashers such as Toyota or Volkswagen. For a time, so did the market—first as tech shares soared amid the pandemic-era boom in all things digital, then as they slumped last year, after their growth began to slow and higher interest rates made their promised future profits look less valuable today.


In the past few months, however, Tesla’s share price has suffered a sharper correction than big tech. This has coincided with its more mundane tribulations as a car business. Having managed to avoid the worst of the pandemic supply-chain disruptions, Tesla has been caught up in China’s chaotic retreat from the zero-covid policy; its big factory in Shanghai has been hit by virus-related shutdowns. And having set the course for the industry’s ev transition, it now faces plenty of competition from established rivals and a host of newcomers it inspired. Days after Tesla reported the disappointing figures, Volkswagen unveiled its id.7, a challenger to Tesla’s entry-level Model 3 saloon.

ev-buyers, for their part, are becoming less willing than early adopters to overlook Tesla’s questionable build quality and the interior of a much cheaper car. And the natural Tesla-owners among the wealthy progressive set are less prepared to overlook Mr Musk’s libertarian antics at Twitter, which he bought in October and has mismanaged with gusto—especially now that they have plenty of conscience-salving ev alternatives to choose from.
Tesla is, in other words, no longer the only game in town—and certainly no tech behemoth. As ev-makers go, though, it still looks impressive. In 2022 it delivered 1.3m cars, 40% more than the year before, and opened two new assembly plants. It is working on a smaller, cheaper car and this year will start to deliver its long-awaited Cybertruck pick-up. And it is still worth some $360bn—about as much as the next three biggest carmakers combined.



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Audi, Porsche, and BMW are going to run laps around Tesla not to mention the domestic and Asian companies

I was just in Europe and there were a bunch of electric and hybrid cars on the road I'd never seen before, I wasn't even sure who manufactured some of them(didn't recognize the emblems and I know most of the companies so I'm assuming new companies or spin offs)
 

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Tesla should have tighten their manufacturing side, sustainable side, and quality control before jumping into R&D so heavily.

I think there is enough data points to show the manufacturing flaws of Tesla. If you can't generate output that is projected, no reason for anyone to invest.

A lot of car companies are innovative but it is different from Tesla
 

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Tesla should have tighten their manufacturing side, sustainable side, and quality control before jumping into R&D so heavily.

I think there is enough data points to show the manufacturing flaws of Tesla. If you can't generate output that is projected, no reason for anyone to invest.

A lot of car companies are innovative but it is different from Tesla
I also feel car companies can scale up faster than Tesla too just through resources.

Tesla probably in some trouble. Do you see a chance they get sold to one of the big auto companies?
 

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I also feel car companies can scale up faster than Tesla too just through resources.

Tesla probably in some trouble. Do you see a chance they get sold to one of the big auto companies?
you would need to see tesla's market cap drop to the basement before that would be possible, and by then, what would be worth owning? the brand is polarizing, the most ambitious parts of their tech are still vapor, and it would take long enough for the market cap to be reasonable that the solid state battery revolution will probably already make charging a lot easier.
 

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From the time Jaguar dropped the i-PACE and Porsche dropped the Taycan the writing was on the wall, suddenly you had better built cars with better drivability in a space that was once only Tesla.

Then Musk hyped his truck and robots to maintain interests and people speculated he would do it because...well, he got SpaceX done. Looks like reality is setting in.

Outside of charging infrastructure, Tesla will soon have no clear advantage over other EVs, and that's probably an EU mandatory standard away from fukking them permanently. In ten years, all Tesla might be doing is gigafactories to supply batteries to other car manufacturers.
 

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From the time Jaguar dropped the i-PACE and Porsche dropped the Taycan the writing was on the wall, suddenly you had better built cars with better drivability in a space that was once only Tesla.

Then Musk hyped his truck and robots to maintain interests and people speculated he would do it because...well, he got SpaceX done. Looks like reality is setting in.

Outside of charging infrastructure, Tesla will soon have no clear advantage over other EVs, and that's probably an EU mandatory standard away from fukking them permanently. In ten years, all Tesla might be doing is gigafactories to supply batteries to other car manufacturers.
I know in the EU it’s by law if I’m not mistaken that Tesla had to open up their changing stations to non Tesla cars lol
 

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Said from time Tesla would get passed up when other automakers got serious about EVs. My neighbour has the beemer EV and the other with the Tesla. Beemer killing that. Tesla is going to get lapped soon.
 

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If the claim in the OP was true, wouldn't Tesla be closer to $20 than $120?
I doubt it’s going to drop from 384 to 20 in a quick time; Considering that they still sell relatively well.

But Tesla had an evaluation like it was peers with Amazon, Apple or Google and that’s no longer the case.
 
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