xXMASHERXx
Superstar
Nah most of this has nothing to do with Trump or AI at all. Companies are offshoring jobs for cheap labor to cut costs. What they fail to realize is that cutting costs in Cybersecurity is asking to be hacked/breached.
Tech Industry job layoffs looking scary
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From a risk standpoint, the cost savings are worth it. Hacking be damned.
At least thats the impression ive gotten with internal convos.Its not really about the dollar cost of your labor, but moreso the rising stock valuation once the savings are announced and implemented .
My current company is a dubiously unethical (but legally compliant) f100 finance firm. They have already sent a big chunk of IT , cybersec, cloud, and web devs to india with horrible results. For example, we had an instance a few weeks ago , where India randomly sent back end API with personally identifiable client information to receptionists . No encryption or nothing either. Cybersec was furious
But despite that, my firm got a weird gag order on the whole HQ not to complain because our company 's announcement of offshoring stopped a stock nose dive a year ago. Even the directors and VPs have been told to shut up. From the few convo(s) ive had about our trash offshore team with management, they seem to be running a form of corporate leverage. They announce layoffs and offshoring that saves only 20million, yet the market cap raises by 300million because this "shows good leadership" from the csuite to investors.
And yes, after offshoring, we had been breached leading to both employee and client data being stolen, but they honestly spent less in litigation and paying for "free consumer credit monitoring" to the affected parties, than they gained in stock appreciation. It worked so well for balance sheets that this f100 finance firm is considering outsourcing accounting too.
xXMASHERXx
Superstar
And the bolded is exactly why I don't expect things to get better. Until companies face real consequences, there's no reason for them to do better.From a risk standpoint, the cost savings are worth it. Hacking be damned.
At least thats the impression ive gotten with internal convos.Its not really about the dollar cost of your labor, but moreso the rising stock valuation once the savings are announced and implemented .
My current company is a dubiously unethical (but legally compliant) f100 finance firm. They have already sent a big chunk of IT , cybersec, cloud, and web devs to india with horrible results. For example, we had an instance a few weeks ago , where India randomly sent back end API with personally identifiable client information to receptionists . No encryption or nothing either. Cybersec was furious
But despite that, my firm got a weird gag order on the whole HQ not to complain because our company 's announcement of offshoring stopped a stock nose dive a year ago. Even the directors and VPs have been told to shut up. From the few convo(s) ive had about our trash offshore team with management, they seem to be running a form of corporate leverage. They announce layoffs and offshoring that saves only 20million, yet the market cap raises by 300million because this "shows good leadership" from the csuite to investors.
And yes, after offshoring, we had been breached leading to both employee and client data being stolen, but they honestly spent less in litigation and paying for "free consumer credit monitoring" to the affected parties, than they gained in stock appreciation. It worked so well for balance sheets that this f100 finance firm is considering outsourcing accounting too.
xXMASHERXx
Superstar
Speaking of Cybersecurity just got communication that the city of McAllen, TX got hit with a ransomware attack. Not sure of the impact and I'm on PTO so won't be my problem.
How it started vs. How it's going
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How it started vs. How it's going - lemm.ee
> Tweet 1 [https://x.com/leojr94_/status/1900767509621674109] & Tweet 2 [https://x.com/leojr94_/status/1901560276488511759]lemm.ee
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1/11
@leojr94_
my saas was built with Cursor, zero hand written code
AI is no longer just an assistant, it’s also the builder
Now, you can continue to whine about it or start building.
P.S. Yes, people pay for it
2/11
@SaidAitmbarek
man i literally vibe code 5/6 apps, 2 games and my v2 for @microlaunchhq at the same time
vibe coding = a blessing
3/11
@leojr94_
its is, but is also distracting
im now only focusing on marketing
4/11
@javelartin
Same. It's the new version in my case (the one live right now), so the business was already running with an old school app but yeah, 100%, you can build commercial level products just by asking your way to cursor.
Knowing software helps a lot though, with big projects, at least enough know-how to select the parts you pass when asking
5/11
@leojr94_
yea, I feel is not that hard for me since I have been around devs for quite some time, I also know my way around figma so that helped
i still cant code tho, but I have a clear idea of how things work
6/11
@tech_nurgaliyev
good news
7/11
@leojr94_
i don't know if it's news, but some people are definitely resisting
8/11
@sevalla_hosting
I can't imagine coding a fully functional SaaS with payments, webhooks, and background jobs without knowing how to code.
I assume you’re a coder and know how to fix things.
9/11
@leojr94_
I'm not a coder and I can build a build fully functional SaaS with payments, webhooks, db, and auth in less than 24 hours.
without using a boilerplate
10/11
@FiloPietra
my app was built with cursor too
11/11
@leojr94_
Be open about it. There is nothing wrong with it
To post tweets in this format, more info here: https://www.thecoli.com/threads/tips-and-tricks-for-posting-the-coli-megathread.984734/post-52211196
1/12
@leojr94_
guys, i'm under attack
ever since I started to share how I built my SaaS using Cursor
random thing are happening, maxed out usage on api keys, people bypassing the subscription, creating random shyt on db
as you know, I'm not technical so this is taking me longer that usual to figure out
for now, I will stop sharing what I do publicly on X
there are just some weird ppl out there
2/12
@leojr94_
7:30 AM, not sleep until is all fixed
- rolled all api keys and moved them to environment variables
- implemented authentication to api endpoints
3/12
@leojr94_
11:20 AM still here
- modified CORS configuration to only allow requests from trusted domains
4/12
@leojr94_
fml, I should have just kept it quiet
anyways thanks everyone who has been trying to help or at least not throw me under the bus
i'll learn from my mistakes
5/12
@NickADobos
Learning security from first principles.
Good job & Keep going.
This is how you become technical and you are doing it!! One step at a time!
Don’t let the haters & hackers get you down.
6/12
@leojr94_
Thanks for the support man, it means alot to me
7/12
@4lteredBeast
[Quoted tweet]
BEWARE
VIBE CODING is a plot from BIG CYBERSEC to CREATE MORE CUSTOMERS instead of CREATING CURES
Don't fall for THEIR LIES
8/12
@leojr94_
That actually makes sense
9/12
@daniel_nguyenx
Good opportunity to learn about security I think. Unfortunately there will always be bad actors, whether you do it in public or not.
10/12
@leojr94_
True, Im taking it as a learning experience
Most people have been helpful tho
11/12
@Star_Knight12
If you're sharing something on X, then be prepared for everything.
12/12
@leojr94_
real
To post tweets in this format, more info here: https://www.thecoli.com/threads/tips-and-tricks-for-posting-the-coli-megathread.984734/post-52211196
Immediately brought to mind this article I read recently: Will the future of software development run on vibes?
Dude vibe coded his way right into a mess and doesn’t have the knowledge to fix it
The article and this thread are good illustrations of why I think “AI” in its current state is more likely to boost the productivity of the average software engineer rather than replacing them altogether.
Just because a program runs doesn’t mean it’s doing the correct thing
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Many don’t understand that or for example end up putting sensitive api keys in the app or using something like firebase database and just having it open.Immediately reminded me of an article I read recently: Will the future of software development run on vibes?
Dude vibe coded his way right into a mess and doesn’t have the knowledge to fix it
But not being able to understand the output or have the knowledge to change it yourself is going to bite you in the ass eventually. Just because a program runs doesn’t mean it’s doing the correct thing
Big part of the reason “AI” in its current state is more likely to boost the productivity of the average software engineer rather than replacing them altogether.
That’s like back before prepared statements or frameworks became more of a standard and you could easily manipulate queries through the url.
Mirin4rmfar
Superstar
Cyber Security job market sucks at the moment. Very hard to get entry level jobs. I am a self learned cyber security engineer/compliance with an Engineering, multiple certs, I can't get an interview. The job I interviewed well for just got reposted 3 days ago
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IIVI
Superstar
It’s a shame when you think about how many people helped build these companies over the last two decades that didn’t match these bullet points.
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Immediately brought to mind this article I read recently: Will the future of software development run on vibes?
Dude vibe coded his way right into a mess and doesn’t have the knowledge to fix it
The article and this thread are good illustrations of why I think “AI” in its current state is more likely to boost the productivity of the average software engineer rather than replacing them altogether.
Just because a program runs doesn’t mean it’s doing the correct thing
Seems like something prompt engineering could fix right?
Or an cybersecurity agent that reviews the app's code and looks for vulnerabilities or potential vulnerabilities with detailed instructions on common issues that could arise
IIVI
Superstar
Don’t like the guy, but you can watch Primeagen and a whole bunch of software engineers on YouTube try to vibe code a game in a week.
They’re marathon streaming the entire thing on youtube and Twitch. They’re on Day 4 right now.
However, watch how many errors their expertise is fixing. There’s no way a common person vibe coding/relying on Cursor can build what they’re building. Those guys are running into so many issues the A.I is running them into it’s hilarious.
The livestream:
www.youtube.com
Great real world and real-time example of how A.I is a multiplier but not a replacement for an Engineer.
Side note: that’s right by my cousin’s house.
They’re marathon streaming the entire thing on youtube and Twitch. They’re on Day 4 right now.
However, watch how many errors their expertise is fixing. There’s no way a common person vibe coding/relying on Cursor can build what they’re building. Those guys are running into so many issues the A.I is running them into it’s hilarious.
The livestream:
🚨🚨 3 DAYS LEFT!!! - MAKING A GAME IN 7 Days Using Cursor -- #ad🚨🚨
THE GREATEST STREAM EVER
www.youtube.com
Great real world and real-time example of how A.I is a multiplier but not a replacement for an Engineer.
Side note: that’s right by my cousin’s house.
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IIVI
Superstar
The dude that made that Leetcode interview tool started his own company/product:
I’m hoping dude’s company skyrockets/finds plenty success. shyt would be comical and honestly has a great chance to.
I’m hoping dude’s company skyrockets/finds plenty success. shyt would be comical and honestly has a great chance to.
Layoffs 2025: Arvind Krishna-Led IBM To Axe 9000 Jobs In US With Hiring Push In India
Layoffs 2025: Arvind Krishna-Led IBM To Axe 9000 Jobs In US With Hiring Push In India
AI to blame?
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ahomeplateslugger
Superstar
Layoffs 2025: Arvind Krishna-Led IBM To Axe 9000 Jobs In US With Hiring Push In India
Layoffs 2025: Arvind Krishna-Led IBM To Axe 9000 Jobs In US With Hiring Push In India
AI to blame?
spooky times for people....9k is a lot of people joining a competitive workforce.
