Tech Bro goes on G-Fueled rant about how society worships the Cory and Stefan Urkels of the world and not the Minkus’

Gizmo_Duck

blathering blatherskite!
Joined
Aug 15, 2018
Messages
77,660
Reputation
6,036
Daps
165,554
Reppin
Duckburg, NY
Ssays this is why the world isn’t producing more engineers because we grew up worshipping Cory Matthews and Zack and Slater, and not Screech and Minkus :russ:



The reason top tech companies often hire foreign-born & first-generation engineers over “native” Americans isn’t because of an innate American IQ deficit (a lazy & wrong explanation). A key part of it comes down to the c-word: culture. Tough questions demand tough answers & if we’re really serious about fixing the problem, we have to confront the TRUTH:

Our American culture has venerated mediocrity over excellence for way too long (at least since the 90s and likely longer). That doesn’t start in college, it starts YOUNG.

A culture that celebrates the prom queen over the math olympiad champ, or the jock over the valedictorian, will not produce the best engineers.

A culture that venerates Cory from “Boy Meets World,” or Zach & Slater over Screech in “Saved by the Bell,” or ‘Stefan’ over Steve Urkel in “Family Matters,” will not produce the best engineers.

(Fact: I know *multiple* sets of immigrant parents in the 90s who actively limited how much their kids could watch those TV shows precisely because they promoted mediocrity…and their kids went on to become wildly successful STEM graduates).

More movies like Whiplash, fewer reruns of “Friends.” More math tutoring, fewer sleepovers. More weekend science competitions, fewer Saturday morning cartoons. More books, less TV. More creating, less “chillin.” More extracurriculars, less “hanging out at the mall.”

Most normal American parents look skeptically at “those kinds of parents.” More normal American kids view such “those kinds of kids” with scorn. If you grow up aspiring to normalcy, normalcy is what you will achieve.

Now close your eyes & visualize which families you knew in the 90s (or even now) who raise their kids according to one model versus the other. Be brutally honest.

“Normalcy” doesn’t cut it in a hyper-competitive global market for technical talent. And if we pretend like it does, we’ll have our asses handed to us by China.

This can be our Sputnik moment. We’ve awaken from slumber before & we can do it again. Trump’s election hopefully marks the beginning of a new golden era in America, but only if our culture fully wakes up. A culture that once again prioritizes achievement over normalcy; excellence over mediocrity; nerdiness over conformity; hard work over laziness.

That’s the work we have cut out for us, rather than wallowing in victimhood & just wishing (or legislating) alternative hiring practices into existence. I’m confident we can do it. 🇺🇸 🇺🇸

8c2fdacbc6cbec249aa62cd19751e780819649b1.gif

0f20ec275a42ea2bfd9cc9c89ac8bc5057e6b6ea.gif
 
Last edited:

Neuromancer

Pachuca Sunrise.
Supporter
Joined
Oct 16, 2015
Messages
80,561
Reputation
16,014
Daps
194,910
Reppin
A Villa Straylight.
Ssays this is why the world isn’t producing more engineers because we grew up worshipping Cory Matthews and Zack and Slater, and not Screech and Minkus :russ:





8c2fdacbc6cbec249aa62cd19751e780819649b1.gif

0f20ec275a42ea2bfd9cc9c89ac8bc5057e6b6ea.gif

Corey wasn't popular. Zach is basically Trump and Elon and Slater is the muscle. This dude sounds pathetic.
 

O.T.I.S.

Veteran
Joined
Sep 15, 2013
Messages
75,965
Reputation
16,094
Daps
292,739
Reppin
The Truth
Nerds never went nowhere :mjlol:


Just admit you wasn’t hiring them, providing them additional training, overworking and underpaying them.

Then Tech bros started outsourcing for cheaper talent in other countries so you can pay them less… (which is why a lot of these clowns already have insider threats, North Koreans pretending to be other nationalities in remote jobs, etc.)


He is correct on one thing though.. Americans love supporting the superficial and stupid. Look who they voted for
 

Uitomy

Superstar
Joined
Nov 17, 2016
Messages
12,328
Reputation
1,673
Daps
44,288
Reppin
Anxiety attacks and sugar cookies
Part of the reason those characters were popular is they had to figure out how to improve their mediocrity, which usually meant having multiple situations of facing the truth that they weren't shyt. I do think the whole "nerd" shyt was overblown in the 80's but our issue with lagging tech options for workers in that space is just as much on the companies than the families. Those companies could've just as easily started their own academies like how foreign pro soccer teams do and literally raise up their own futures. But just like every big buisness in America, they think the only solution is hire cheaper workers for greater progit
 

O.T.I.S.

Veteran
Joined
Sep 15, 2013
Messages
75,965
Reputation
16,094
Daps
292,739
Reppin
The Truth
Part of the reason those characters were popular is they had to figure out how to improve their mediocrity, which usually meant having multiple situations of facing the truth that they weren't shyt. I do think the whole "nerd" shyt was overblown in the 80's but our issue with lagging tech options for workers in that space is just as much on the companies than the families. Those companies could've just as easily started their own academies like how foreign pro soccer teams do and literally raise up their own futures. But just like every big buisness in America, they think the only solution is hire cheaper workers for greater progit
This times 1000


Microsoft actually does something like that. They recruit some straight in HS like smart companies would.

Thats how they get and keep their star talents in the states.
 

Rick Fox at UNC

All Star
Joined
Dec 2, 2015
Messages
4,564
Reputation
1,108
Daps
10,709
Reppin
Pretty Boys
He said nothing wrong.

Asian (Chinese) girl I mess with. her parents didn't let her have sleepovers, they kept their kids away from other bullshyt kids and bullshyt parents, they didn't grow up with a bunch of screens everywhere.

She went to a top engineering school, her brother graduated from a top school and works in finance. Many such cases.

It wasn't until I got around other kids with their shyt together that I realize how differently they were parented.

Like, most of 'em ain't better or smarter, but they were properly parented. Many parents just suck at the job and no one ever tells them.

This, right here, is the motherfukking job...

KNS7KSp.png

HEoSKNT.png

hixURpj.png

KUu6CuI.png
 

Rick Fox at UNC

All Star
Joined
Dec 2, 2015
Messages
4,564
Reputation
1,108
Daps
10,709
Reppin
Pretty Boys
Part of the reason those characters were popular is they had to figure out how to improve their mediocrity, which usually meant having multiple situations of facing the truth that they weren't shyt. I do think the whole "nerd" shyt was overblown in the 80's but our issue with lagging tech options for workers in that space is just as much on the companies than the families. Those companies could've just as easily started their own academies like how foreign pro soccer teams do and literally raise up their own futures. But just like every big buisness in America, they think the only solution is hire cheaper workers for greater progit

They have their own academies.

Prep schools and engineering focused high-schools.

Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, MIT, Carnegie Mellon.

Williams College, Berkeley, UCLA, UC San Diego, UC Irvine, UC Davis, U. Michigan, U. Washington.

...and it's not even close.
 
Last edited:

Uitomy

Superstar
Joined
Nov 17, 2016
Messages
12,328
Reputation
1,673
Daps
44,288
Reppin
Anxiety attacks and sugar cookies
They have their own academies.

Prep schools and engineering focused high-schools.

Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, MIT, Carnegie Mellon.

Williams College, Berkeley, UCLA, UC San Diego, UC Irvine, UC Davis, U. Michigan, U. Washington.

...and it's not even close.
They could start their own internal universities and cut the middle man and give a cheaper more focused education.
 

Rick Fox at UNC

All Star
Joined
Dec 2, 2015
Messages
4,564
Reputation
1,108
Daps
10,709
Reppin
Pretty Boys
They could start their own internal universities and cut the middle man and give a cheaper more focused education.

Why? When there is already a pool of A-type, slightly entitled geniuses to select from.

Many of them more competitive than Navy SEALS.

Why set up trade schools? We are not training people to change light bulbs, we want people who invent the new new thing. You find that at these unis (and a few more).

Again, that you don't know means you're playing the game wrong. Blame your parents, not the system.
 

Rick Fox at UNC

All Star
Joined
Dec 2, 2015
Messages
4,564
Reputation
1,108
Daps
10,709
Reppin
Pretty Boys
Part of the reason those characters were popular is they had to figure out how to improve their mediocrity, which usually meant having multiple situations of facing the truth that they weren't shyt. I do think the whole "nerd" shyt was overblown in the 80's but our issue with lagging tech options for workers in that space is just as much on the companies than the families. Those companies could've just as easily started their own academies like how foreign pro soccer teams do and literally raise up their own futures. But just like every big buisness in America, they think the only solution is hire cheaper workers for greater progit

That's not how it works. The kids who make those teams are selected. That means, outside of a few incredible talents, they've already had significant parenting and coaching to get to that point.

Its extremely rare that some kid off the street gets to that level. More often than not, their father played and coached them from a young age. Or their father made a number of sacrifices to learn the game, learn the system, and get them to that point.

That's Vivek's point. None of this is accidental.

This times 1000


Microsoft actually does something like that. They recruit some straight in HS like smart companies would.

Thats how they get and keep their star talents in the states.
.

This is partially true. Microsoft, Google and others will recruit kids out of high-school and offer to pay for their university education. They still expect them to go.

The other thing is, they are only doing that for highly talented students...meaning students who were parented correctly in the first place. They don't just go after some "smart kid off the street" and turn him into a world class engineer.
 

Rick Fox at UNC

All Star
Joined
Dec 2, 2015
Messages
4,564
Reputation
1,108
Daps
10,709
Reppin
Pretty Boys
Serena Williams, Tiger Woods, most of the NBA, Coco Gauff, most of the NFL, most of anyone found in a professional sports league.

Anyone who plays instruments at a professional level.

Most anyone doing anything at an extremely high level.

Parents, culture. It matters.
 
Top