Tariq Nasheed vs Terry Crews

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Agree. I can somewhat understand how lots of brothas didnt know how he let that shyt slide and he felt some way about it. But to not even check that fakkit is what I had a problem with. Sure, beating the shyt outta that dude would have had you blackballed, but he coulda slapped the shyt outta dude, called his ass out at the party for doing that shyt, etc. Will Smith checked that fakkit that tried him on the red carpet on some grown man shyt. Terry could have done the same.
I'm not on the fukk Terry Crews bandwagon but I think he should have at least snatched that guy up and said "you try me like that again and ill fukk you up". Would have been justified in the eyes of many without a lawsuit or being blackballed
 

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I'm not on the fukk Terry Crews bandwagon but I think he should have at least snatched that guy up and said "you try me like that again and ill fukk you up". Would have been justified in the eyes of many without a lawsuit or being blackballed

maybe he was worried about getting black balled :mjlol:by the industry

but once he saw how lucrative the meetoo shyt could be not to mention all of the roles he would get from white people/companies that wanna virtue signal
 

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What I won't do? I'm not going to troll you in my response.

Let's be real, [Bet. I promise you I'll be completely real & as objective as possible in this response.] you sound like you just don't like Tariq at all [This is true. But, I've never formed an opinion on someone's contribution to the 'race and society' discussion w/o actually using what I observe about them to form that opinion.] because every time i see a Tariq thread you stay in it on some "Man fukk this nikka" shyt. [Nah, breh. There are a plethora of Tariq threads. The Coli is one of my go to time killers. I'm absolutely NOT in most Tariq threads. But, every once in a while, a breh enters a thread and decides to give his opinion...b/c that's what forums are for.]


You looking funny :cape: for these soft shoe c00ning "black" celebs. [You are looking foolish using the logic that Tariq Nasheed topics are an {If P-->Q} circumstance. The fact that the breh looks like an ultimate internet troll wearing a "pro-black voice" halloween costume when he is on a self-determined pedestal on black issues has nothing to do with whether I am trying to 'save' or justify the actions of the person/institution/group that he is speaking on or to. If he's debating David Duke & Nasheed looks like a fool during the debate...I'm not caping for David Duke when I do a :snoop: smilie & opine that he's making a fool of himself at the expense of the group he claims he's speaking on behalf of.]

and please don't try the ad hominem "Tariq is y'all daddy" or other nonsense y'all do when [Now, you see? In your attempt to proactively stop me from doing an ad hominem attack on you & after you claim you've "got dirt on you doggie!" camron shyt when it comes to Tariq threads...here you are generalizing and claiming I'm known to partake in the "Tariq is y'all daddy" teasing. nikka...how hypocritical is that?] someone co-signs something Tariq touches on. Please explain what Tariq has said that has you so against him because it's quite obvious by now he's definitely struck a nerve with you and this is old stuff as I never fail to see you coming into a thread about Tariq to express your disapproval with the dude.


What have I observed about this breh that rubs me the wrong way?

Well, let's get this first point out of the way... I love my black people. I feel connected to my black people & my career is dedicated to improving the progress of my black people in an attempt to counter the continuing damage of institutional racism. So, when I see a "social influencer" who has built up the clout to be considered a speaker of the black mind...I'm very sensitive to dumb shyt that they perpetrate.

Secondly, one of my intellectual loves...debate & discourse. I'm well aware that there are certain methods to proper dialogue. If you're going to be willing to dialogue about issues, you need to be willing to accept that you might be wrong & willing to show a certain type of respect to who you dialogue w/ otherwise what is the reason for the dialogue except to troll?


I've seen this breh:
  • Constantly respond to critiques by callers to his shows in some of the most backwards & bizarre elementary cafeteria ways. As learned as the breh presents himself as, responding to confusion or counter arguments w/ calling people c00ns, dusty nikkas, uncle toms and wenches is some grade A fukk boy shyt. This happens on his social media responses as well.

  • Along w/ the above point, the breh seems to save his most vehement & disrespectful responses for fellow black people in contrast to the bizarre level of respect he shows to the ignorant white supremacist or troll network news panelists he finds himself debating against. e.g. Tucker Carson.

  • He's on record being confronted w/ his previous works, such as his Art of Macking, and instead of standing behind what he previously wanted to be viewed as serious, he has literally claimed that his past viewpoints on women & courting as being "just satire".

  • Now, considering the breh throws around the insults of wenches and bucks, he, himself, has been on some shyt he'd call bucking & c00ning and has said "hell yea I'd fukk & date a white girl. I'd raise the european flag in the bedroom". If that isn't some weird backwards shyt, breh...

  • Also, assuming the macking shyt was "just satire" what kind of self-respecting black man does a whole macking routine for a room full of chuckling white people?
I can keep going but expending the energy to continue before I know if anyone is genuinely interested in my reasons for not fukking w/ the breh & being vocal about it or if this was an attempt to just troll my reply no matter what.


I've also observed the breh give opinion disguised as fact without properly sourcing where he's getting the info from. e.g. Tariq's theory on HIV epidemic in Atlanta. I've had conversations where people legit source this breh as a real powerhouse intellectual and the reality that he's considered a positive influence in black discourse is disturbing to me.

Dude has shown himself to be a high level clown on more occasions than I'm comfortable with, especially considering how unabashed he is about bucks/wenches, the breh is on record discussing how he'd fukk a white women like Brook Hogan w/ the quickness and looking proud to say that shyt too. :hhh: I don't fukk w/ hypocrites w/ a pedestal. The Invisible Man by Ralph Ellison is my playbook w/ this sort of thing. :manny:

Can you tell me why you fukk w/ him in a genuine way?

Explain how he is a “fukk nikka”?

See above.
 
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What I won't do? I'm not going to troll you in my response.
Why would you do that? :skip:

What have I observed about this breh that rubs me the wrong way?

Well, let's get this first point out of the way... I love my black people. I feel connected to my black people & my career is dedicated to improving the progress of my black people in an attempt to counter the continuing damage of institutional racism. So, when I see a "social influencer" who has built up the clout to be considered a speaker of the black mind...I'm very sensitive to dumb shyt that they perpetrate.
Right off the bat this comes off with some degree of animosity.. but continuing on..


Secondly, one of my intellectual loves...debate & discourse. I'm well aware that there are certain methods to proper dialogue. If you're going to be willing to dialogue about issues, you need to be willing to accept that you might be wrong & willing to show a certain type of respect to who you dialogue w/ otherwise what is the reason for the dialogue except to troll?
You're speaking from an academic perspective. We're not speaking academically here on a forum or even Twitter. That's strike number one. Why assume diplomacy in an open arena subject to shenanigans? That's why I never get why people get upset over shyt that's posted in TLR. TLR isn't where you go to engage in scholarly debate.


I've seen this breh:
Constantly respond to critiques by callers to his shows in some of the most backwards & bizarre elementary cafeteria ways. As learned as the breh presents himself as, responding to confusion or counter arguments w/ calling people c00ns, dusty nikkas, uncle toms and wenches is some grade A fukk boy shyt. This happens on his social media responses as well.
It's his show, he can respond how he wants to. He's not governed by some arbitrary rules set forth by someone. Have you not grown up in the hood or around blacks who joke on each other?

Ain't nothing wrong with calling someone out on their bullshyt. I'm not one to abide by some respectability politics.

The way you sometimes talk on here makes me feel like you're this dude Dominic Carter



Along w/ the above point, the breh seems to save his most vehement & disrespectful responses for fellow black people in contrast to the bizarre level of respect he shows to the ignorant white supremacist or troll network news panelists he finds himself debating against. e.g. Tucker Carson.
Bro, this is all nonsense. In what way is calling someone who is rightfully c00ning a c00n wrong? The main difference here is he's on his own show. You can't go on TV and expect to talk the same way you talk on your own radio show and not get kicked off the air within seconds. You have to be more tactful. To you, you would call that "respectful to white supremacist", to others they'd again see that as tactful.


He's on record being confronted w/ his previous works, such as his Art of Macking, and instead of standing behind what he previously wanted to be viewed as serious, he has literally claimed that his past viewpoints on women & courting as being "just satire".
He did stand behind it, he said it was a deflection and not the point of contention. I don't know why he said satire though as satire doesn't even make sense literally in this situation.


Now, considering the breh throws around the insults of wenches and bucks, he, himself, has been on some shyt he'd call bucking & c00ning and has said "hell yea I'd fukk & date a white girl. I'd raise the european flag in the bedroom". If that isn't some weird backwards shyt, breh...
Oh yeah because we don't make jokes on here about fukking pawgs or whatever. :childplease:
According to this line of reasoning, you yourself have bucked and c00ned huh?


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nikka... Of course we'd all smash...

But wife b? The mother of your children?

You would?

:ehh:Yes...this is true... both look very smashable. Actually they are the epitome of smashable.

However, don't try to go at nikkas who say they wouldn't wife, because if you're saying you would wife just off of the attention seeking behavior, you're a fukking bum in the real world...no?:usure:

Come on let's not be holier than thou up in this bytch. :francis:





Also, assuming the macking shyt was "just satire" what kind of self-respecting black man does a whole macking routine for a room full of chuckling white people?
I can keep going but expending the energy to continue before I know if anyone is genuinely interested in my reasons for not fukking w/ the breh & being vocal about it or if this was an attempt to just troll my reply no matter what.
:what: What does someone talking about something they wrote a book about years ago have to do with self respect? This is ad hominem logical fallacy 101 and it's even sillier considering it's from something old.


I've also observed the breh give opinion disguised as fact without properly sourcing where he's getting the info from. e.g. Tariq's theory on HIV epidemic in Atlanta. I've had conversations where people legit source this breh as a real powerhouse intellectual and the reality that he's considered a positive influence in black discourse is disturbing to me.
That person who sources Tariq as a "source" is a dummy. It even says right there "theory" and I'm not sure we need to even delve into what a theory is. If Tariq or someone on The Coli says something you know what I do? I go research. I look for books, reports, scholarly sources, something. If someone sources Tariq or someone else just willy nilly as a powerhouse of intelligence then that's a different topic altogether and honestly that person has bigger issues they need to fix. That's that person's problem, not Tariq. It's no different than when someone sources the local news as the source of their information. I'll chime on the irresponsibility of the news but more so on the lack of due diligence on the person who just takes their info at face value.


D
ude has shown himself to be a high level clown on more occasions than I'm comfortable with, especially considering how unabashed he is about bucks/wenches, the breh is on record discussing how he'd fukk a white women like Brook Hogan w/ the quickness and looking proud to say that shyt too. :hhh: I don't fukk w/ hypocrites w/ a pedestal. The Invisible Man by Ralph Ellison is my playbook w/ this sort of thing. :manny:
Again, the nikka has said multiple times he's not again IR, he's against people who date out and are talking down on their own people and :cape: for the other group.
You yourself has said you'd Smash the Kardashians, you realize I could turn around and try to paint you as some sort of hypocrite that talks "Pro black" shyt online and lust after white women? This is essentially what you're doing here. :francis: You just plain don't like the nikka and your reasoning is rightfully yours but in my opinion they're a bit anemic.


Can you tell me why you fukk w/ him in a genuine way?
I don't have no serious problem with him per se. The nikka is funny, he makes entertaining stuff and that's that. I don't view Tariq in the same light as someone like Khallid Muhammad or Malcolm X. I don't have no need to. it's y'all dudes that try to create this dichotomy to then attach to others who have no real problem with Tariq. Most of the time I get my Tariq news from here since the nikkas who don't fukk with him constantly make threads about his every move. If that makes me "fukk w him" then so be it. He may say something I disagree it but that's life.
 
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When are we gonna learn this guy tariq is a paid troll.

Never seen someone go after as many black people as much as he does.

I'm sure he's loving the attention, he lives for this type of mudslinging...brings more clicks.

Sometimes you gotta just ignore him. Like that saying goes, never wrestle with a pig, you get dirty and the pig likes it.
 

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Why would you do that? :skip:


You're speaking from an academic perspective. We're not speaking academically here on a forum or even Twitter. That's strike number one. Why assume diplomacy in an open arena subject to shenanigans? That's why I never get why people get upset over shyt that's posted in TLR. TLR isn't where you go to get some scholarly debate going on.
[And on the flip side, his scholarly debate w/ Jesse Peterson of all people is nothing short of buffonery under the guise of actual dialogue. He gave an ignorant person like Peterson a platform. Crazy.]


I've seen this breh:
It's his show, he can respond how he wants to. He's not governed by some arbitrary rules set forth by someone. Have you not grown up in the hood? Ain't nothing wrong with calling someone out on their bullshyt. I'm not one to abide by some respectability politics.

Bro, this is all nonsense. In what way is calling someone who is rightfully c00ning a c00n wrong? The main difference here is he's on his own show. You can't go on TV and expect to talk the same way you talk on your own radio show and not get kicked off the air within seconds. You have to be more tactful. To you, you would call that "respectful to white supremacist", to others they'd again see that as tactful. [Being tactful....while on the other side of the coin, trolling those who call into his show with genuine rebuttals or confusions is fair game? Okay, breh. I disagree with that method. I don't fukk with using a platform like that so that should be considered a reasonable answer as to why I don't vibe with his practices. ]



He did stand behind it, he said it was a deflection and not the point of contention. I don't know why he said satire though as satire doesn't even make sense literally in this situation.[Right. It's my opinion that he used "satire" on some jeulzing shyt. He didn't back his work. It's not reasonable that I can't respect that?]



Oh yeah because we don't make jokes on here about fukking pawgs or whatever. :childplease:
According to this line of reasoning, you yourself have bucked and c00ned huh?




Come on let's not be holier than thou up in this bytch.


[:mjlol:You should have continued looking for more receipts. I've been consistent in my view that being in an interracial relationship doesn't make you anti-black or in Tariq's terms...a wench or buck. I'm pointing out his hypocrisy considering he's had numerous instances of extreme insults for certain groups of black women in ways that no other group(white supremacist, immigrants,etc) seems to be insulted as extremely.

I bring up what I see as his hypocrisy and you tried flipping it on me as if it's my philosophy that being in an interracial relationship is something to insult someone about. This brings me to my main issue with the breh...he's inconsistent and I don't vibe with that.]




Again, the nikka has said multiple times he's not again IR, he's against people who date out and are talking down on their own people and :cape: for the other group.
You yourself has said you'd Smash the Kardashians, you realize I could turn around and try to paint you as some sort of hypocrite that talks "Pro black" shyt online and lust after white women? This is essentially what you're doing here. :francis:[Yes, you definitely could paint me as such! I'd say that is some fukk boy shyt. And if later on after you said something like that about me, we find out you've said similar...you'd be the hypocrite...not the person who is bringing the contradiction to light. :heh:]


I don't have no serious problem with him per se. The nikka is funny, he makes entertaining stuff and that's that. I don't view Tariq in the same light as someone like Khallid Muhammad or Malcolm X. I don't have no need to. it's y'all dudes that try to create this dichotomy to then attach to others who have no real problem with Tariq. [Sounds like you're venting at me because of some shyt other brehs have done. My opinion on the breh has remained consistent because he's shown me nothing that should make me think any different. I do have a problem w/ brehs who claim "Tariq might get assasinated because he's speaking that REAL!" shyt. That's some disturbing shyt that they'd put this man in that stratosphere considering he's....like you view him...an entertainer. And since he's an entertainer and nothing more...I see a thread on the breh and I go in and drop a couple bars and leave... consider him a parallel to how much energy you've put into badmouthing the Xbox! No real reason for you to go into those threads incessantly but...you've got time to kill and why not, right? :pachaha:] Most of the time I get my Tariq news from here since the nikkas who don't fukk with him constantly make threads about his every move.
Aye...I'll give you the last word if you want it. Good dialogue. :feedme:
 
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Tariq should stop engaging in arguments with black folks, whether they're right or wrong.

Just focus on the Mitch McConnell's and Orange Cheeto's of the world. There's plenty of mess over there to keep a breh busy. I get the points Terry is making, but he too should avoid calling brehs out to task too much. There are plenty of Harvey Weinstein's and Louis CK's he can focus on. Sometimes we get too self-righteous trying to prove we aren't racist by calling out our own.
 

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Someone explain to me the Tariq hate on this site? I don't agree with everything he says, but I don't see a reason why anyone would hate Tariq when he points out white supremacy consistently. Who cares if he's doing it out of good intentions or selfish ones, he's putting motherfukkers on blast, and I'm struggling to understand why anyone would have a problem with that?

Because they’re p*ssy and p*ssywhipped.
 
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