Tariq Nasheed vs Andrew Schulz on The Brilliant Idiots...VIDEO ADDED

[AJaRuleStan]

Exactly. He can't say, "white supremacy let's me be successful." If he does, then one of the following statements by default must be true:

A. I'm a token who was given this position
B. White supremacy isn't all encompassing
C. None of what I've said is true since I'm allowed to denounce white supremacy, and become successful in the process.
D. I'm by default benefiting from white supremacy because I've become successful by speaking about something that white supremacist consider a cardinal sin, which is discussing and trying to end white supremacy.
E. I'm a fraud
F. ALL OF HE ABOVE.

Tariq's cognitive dissonance is rooted in his preconceived notation of how he thinks the world would look if WS didn't exist which is a world were sharp disparities between groups in human activity and outcomes wouldn't be found. This is how he is able to rationalize away success of certain black people, sub-groups of black people, or any sort of other facts that run contrary to his beliefs, because the overall racial group disparities still exist, and in his mind, disparities can only exist due to human intervention.

 

[Scott Larock]

Just say you are blind and let's keep it moving.

I'm not the one that's blind you wrote a whole bunch of black feminist nonsense.

Tsrriq isn't speaking to you and Tariq isnt getting nmdudes killed challenging police. He's speaking about the base of white supremscy which nothing is wrong with that. If that bothers you it's nothing to really discuss. Tariq isnt increasing crime at all.

 

[MostReal]

Tariq's cognitive dissonance is rooted in his preconceived notation of how he thinks the world would look if WS didn't exist which is a world were sharp disparities between groups in human activity and outcomes wouldn't be found. This is how he is able to rationalize away success of certain black people, sub-groups of black people, or any sort of other facts that run contrary to his beliefs, because the overall racial group disparities still exist, and in his mind, disparities can only exist due to human intervention.

that's not cognitive dissonance. That being aware how WS view the world. Having a clear eye and then reversing what you see via a mirrored effect.

 

[KodeBlue]

Tariq's cognitive dissonance is rooted in his preconceived notation of how he thinks the world would look if WS didn't exist which is a world were sharp disparities between groups in human activity and outcomes wouldn't be found. This is how he is able to rationalize away success of certain black people, sub-groups of black people, or any sort of other facts that run contrary to his beliefs, because the overall racial group disparities still exist, and in his mind, disparities can only exist due to human intervention.

I agree with you. I also think that he keeps the term "WS" vague enough that he can play on the definition of the word as he sees fit. By keeping his definitions vague, he makes it impossible to tie himself down to an argument that he doesn't agree with. He doesn't give anything objectivity. To your point, even with disparities within the "dominant society," he'll throw another vague term at it, such a "sacrifice."

One needs only to hold him to a concrete definition of a his favorite terms, and he will be picked apart easily.

 

[Maschine_Man]

I'm not the one that's blind you wrote a whole bunch of black feminist nonsense.

Tsrriq isn't speaking to you and Tariq isnt getting nmdudes killed challenging police. He's speaking about the base of white supremscy which nothing is wrong with that. If that bothers you it's nothing to really discuss. Tariq isnt increasing crime at all.

Tariq is lazily calling EVERYTHING White Supremacy. I'm all for fighting WS and fighting the systems in place that don't allow ppl to live equally with fair and honest treatment for and by all.

But Tariq is actually doing a real disservice to ppl by playing this "boy who called wolf" game. not just that but he's sending a dangerous message to young POC that they have no control over their lives, and the only time they can have success is if the white man ALLOWS them too.

Anytime a black person succeeds or has any success in America it's because a white person allowed them. Not because they worked hard, not because they sacrificed, naw it's because some white preson allowed them to succeed. fukk him for thinking/saying that. and fukk anyone that remotely believes that nonsense.

Yes, POC have it harder in America, yes the systems have historically favored white ppl, and they are still living off that privilige. But that doesn't mean that POC aren't able to become successful, that doesn't mean POC can't be educated, smart, wealthy and hold power positions if they work for it.


He basically just told every black person that white ppl control them and they have no control over their own lives. He told them that when the going gets tough...just claim white supremacy. and when things go well...well you better thank your masters for allowing them.



this is the dude that you guys are caping for. He is a wolf in sheeps clothing, he is a snake oil salesman, and ultimately he is a WS.

 

[MostReal]

Tariq is lazily calling EVERYTHING White Supremacy. I'm all for fighting WS and fighting the systems in place that don't allow ppl to live equally with fair and honest treatment for and by all.

But Tariq is actually doing a real disservice to ppl by playing this "boy who called wolf" game. not just that but he's sending a dangerous message to young POC that they have no control over their lives, and the only time they can have success is if the white man ALLOWS them too.

Anytime a black person succeeds or has any success in America it's because a white person allowed them. Not because they worked hard, not because they sacrificed, naw it's because some white preson allowed them to succeed. fukk him for thinking/saying that. and fukk anyone that remotely believes that nonsense.

Yes, POC have it harder in America, yes the systems have historically favored white ppl, and they are still living off that privilige. But that doesn't mean that POC aren't able to become successful, that doesn't mean POC can't be educated, smart, wealthy and hold power positions if they work for it.


He basically just told every black person that white ppl control them and they have no control over their own lives. He told them that when the going gets tough...just claim white supremacy. and when things go well...well you better thank your masters for allowing them.



this is the dude that you guys are caping for. He is a wolf in sheeps clothing, he is a snake oil salesman, and ultimately he is a WS.

Ok

Shultz we get it, you don't like Tariq. But understand..we don't care, your view point has no weight because it's flawed.

 

[KodeBlue]

I wonder what a black person who isn't a token, yet is successful is considered?

 

[Maschine_Man]

Ok

Shultz we get it, you don't like Tariq. But understand..we don't care, your view point has no weight because it's flawed.

then let's get back to arguing the viewpoints and not me personally.....or........

 

[KodeBlue]

Ok

Shultz we get it, you don't like Tariq. But understand..we don't care, your view point has no weight because it's flawed.

Explain to that man how his view is flawed. Let's stop with the vague words.

 

[Maschine_Man]

I wonder what a black person who isn't a token, yet is successful is considered?

I think Tariq is the only person that fits that definition...

 

[KodeBlue]

I think Tariq is the only person that fits that definition...

In his mansion telling black people that he ,too, is a victim of white supremacy. How did he become successful then?

 

[Maschine_Man]

In his mansion telling black people that he ,too, is a victim of white supremacy. How did he become successful then?

 

[Scott Larock]

Tariq is lazily calling EVERYTHING White Supremacy. I'm all for fighting WS and fighting the systems in place that don't allow ppl to live equally with fair and honest treatment for and by all.

But Tariq is actually doing a real disservice to ppl by playing this "boy who called wolf" game. not just that but he's sending a dangerous message to young POC that they have no control over their lives, and the only time they can have success is if the white man ALLOWS them too.

Anytime a black person succeeds or has any success in America it's because a white person allowed them. Not because they worked hard, not because they sacrificed, naw it's because some white preson allowed them to succeed. fukk him for thinking/saying that. and fukk anyone that remotely believes that nonsense.

Yes, POC have it harder in America, yes the systems have historically favored white ppl, and they are still living off that privilige. But that doesn't mean that POC aren't able to become successful, that doesn't mean POC can't be educated, smart, wealthy and hold power positions if they work for it.


He basically just told every black person that white ppl control them and they have no control over their own lives. He told them that when the going gets tough...just claim white supremacy. and when things go well...well you better thank your masters for allowing them.



this is the dude that you guys are caping for. He is a wolf in sheeps clothing, he is a snake oil salesman, and ultimately he is a WS.

Okay you'd probably be better off listening to Jason black aka black authority because he's more into black economics.

But back to your point, you have a probably with Tariq labeling all of us who make it being a direct result of the white man let you come up.

You're basically a segregationist one who separates yourself based on work or what you consider successful.

But back to your main beef.

You go to school, who owns the school?

You end up buying a big house, who owns the land? Who built the house?

You drive a Benz, who makes Mercedes?

You're under white supremacy whether you feel so or not, we don't own anything in America as a whole, you make a good point but the logic is flawed.

Just admit you don't care about black folks but you and your grind and keep it moving.

Nothing wrong with that but if you really studied and paid attention to Tariq he's not harming anyone nor upsetting cacs nor upsetting most black folks only the coins and bedbucks are getting offended.

 

[DrunkenNovice]

Serious question..

What is the point in learning how to successfully debate a white supremacist?

I always hear Tariq say he wants to teach us how to properly debate SWS. But my question is why?

I agree

In his mansion telling black people that he ,too, is a victim of white supremacy. How did he become successful then?

In your opinions does WS exist?

If no, why not?

If yes, do you believe Tariqs success has elevated him beyond being impacted by WS.

 

[Scott Larock]

In his mansion telling black people that he ,too, is a victim of white supremacy. How did he become successful then?

Like i said to the other person we own nothing, no land, no water companies, no food companies, we make nothing of substance.

Just say you're scared of cracker backlash and keep it moving.