Tariq Nasheed says "No such thing as mixed in a system of white supremacy"

[Thegospel]

Down for taking a knee during the national anthem, getting the world's attention, and receiving death threats: for instance.

lol I wonder how many black people would do that let alone mixed people

 

[Beatrice Siegal]

I'll ask you one more time, when did mixed people stop being black?

I didn't ask you about what other people say or think. Lots of stupid shyt gets said here by ignorant people who don't know any better. Is your argument "mixed people ain't black because the coli said so"?

Historically a mixed child's racial classification was based on the condition of the mother, not the race of the father. Children of white women were not considered black. This system of classification was meant to benefit white men by removing the social, and legal, obligation of supporting their offspring by black women. Access Restricted

Mixed people didn't consider themselves black: http://slaverebellion.org/index.php?page=the-black-slave-owner

Their efforts to distinguish themselves as a separate caste didn't stop there. It's a long read but perfectly illustrates the determination of mixed people to maintain their caste and associated privileges after slavery : The Dangers of White Blacks: mulatto culture, class, and eugenic beauty in the post-emancipation (USA, 1900-1920)

Mixed people couldn't maintain their privilege through Jim Crow and the "black is beautiful" sentiment didn't help them either. Mixed people identify as "black" because like whites like being white. Meanwhile black people...

 

[Dzali OG]

I'd like to hear examples of these so-called refused to be black mixed ppl.....

What exactly do they need to do differently in their lives?

The Coli Narrative-
Jesse Williams- black
Kaepernick- black
Obama-black
Tracce Ellis-Ross- black
Tariq wife- black

Not black
Captain Cold
Vin Diesel
Jennifer Beals


Can't wait to get some non-scientific pseudo bullshyt % paper bag color theory from the Home Depot paint selection that comes from our PHD coli members

Being "black" isn't a scientific thing. It's a social construct. The actual group is negroid.

I guess we would have to conclude whether ANY negroid features qualifies someone as negroid? My stance is that they are mixed. Mixed may need its own official group.

Socially, some of the people you displayed, proudly wear their blackness on their sleeve. The others, you may had no idea they had any black in them.

 

[Bleed The Freak]

Being "black" isn't a scientific thing. It's a social construct. The actual group is negroid.

I guess we would have to conclude whether ANY negroid features qualifies someone as negroid? My stance is that they are mixed. Mixed may need its own official group.

Socially, some of the people you displayed, proudly wear their blackness on their sleeve. The others, you may had no idea they had any black in them.

 

[Gravity]

Historically a mixed child's racial classification was based on the condition of the mother, not the race of the father. Children of white women were not considered black. This system of classification was meant to benefit white men by removing the social, and legal, obligation of supporting their offspring by black women. Access Restricted

Historically white women haven't had children by black men because it wasn't allowed. Black men and white women haven't really been allowed to get together open and "freely" untol the last 40 years or so.

Mixed people didn't consider themselves black: http://slaverebellion.org/index.php?page=the-black-slave-owner

Their efforts to distinguish themselves as a separate caste didn't stop there. It's a long read but perfectly illustrates the determination of mixed people to maintain their caste and associated privileges after slavery : The Dangers of White Blacks: mulatto culture, class, and eugenic beauty in the post-emancipation (USA, 1900-1920)

Mixed people couldn't maintain their privilege through Jim Crow and the "black is beautiful" sentiment didn't help them either. Mixed people identify as "black" because like whites like being white. Meanwhile black people...

Look, I don't deny there have always been mixed c00ns who've tried to deny or distance themselves from their blackness. We live in a world dominated by white supremacy so there's some individual short term reward in that. There's individual short term reward for all blacks who turn c00n and there have been blacks of all shades and make-up who've turned c00n, so you don't really have a valid point here. There have been biracial people who were c00ns that tried to separate themselves from blackness and worked to perpetuate white supremacy, and there have been biracial blacks who accepted their blackness while working to empower the black community as a whole. Trying to paint them as all one way or the other is just dumb. Again, we as descendants of the white western
Slave trade are direct products of biracials who blended back in with the darker black race. That's why blacks outside of Africa are not 100% African. What part of that don't you get?

 

[@OffHalsted]

For the 338th time.

If your family came through slavery odds of you being 100% African are slim.

So what does being "fully" Black even mean? You'd have to have a cutoff. So where's the dividing line? 51%? 90%? 75%?

So we'll just call it at 51%. So if a 49% African had babies by a 88% African, the babies are Black but the 49% African isn't?

And if all this shyt sounds stupid it's because it truly is.

Black people in America aren't strictly 100% Africans. Once you allow for 88% Africans you have to just open it all the way up to everyone that simply looks "Black" (don't get nit picky. Halle Berry, the Rock, Barry O .. all these niqqas are niqqas).

Essentially: if you have the background and you're down then come on in. Trying to divide us up into all these subgroups is stupid. We all we got and we need all hands on deck.

With that being said anybody can be black, just give a symbolic gesture.. For example bill clinton .. A lot of cacs got black blood in them btw

Throw a dashiki on & say u woke, let mfs know that yo great great grandma was full black, so u black now

The black family

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The Black race aka The Default race, where being black depends on having 1% or more of black blood, symbolic gestures such as throwing up a fist, being woke or knowing songs off trap or die...

 

[Ghost Utmost]

With that being said anybody can be black, just give a symbolic gesture.. For example bill clinton .. A lot of cacs got black blood in them btw

Throw a dashiki on & say u woke, let mfs know that yo great great grandma was full black, so u black now

The black family

..

The Black race aka The Default race, where being black depends on having 1% or more of black blood, symbolic gestures such as throwing up a fist, being woke or knowing songs off trap or die...

Just like being Black essentially is looking Black:

If the person is white they're white. 5% African DNA aside, if they can get pulled by the cops without fear of being shot for reaching for their ID then they are white.

Y'all niqqas cannot possibly be splitting hairs like this in real life.

 

[↓R↑LYB]

You dudes still haven't gotten the clue that I have no problem with Neely Fuller's logic.


The point of this thread was to expose the people who flip flop between "mixed people aren't black!" and "if you have one drop of black blood, you're black"

Who are those people and where have they posted in this thread

 

[↓R↑LYB]

I'm not getting into those semantics

African Americans are not any less black then the Africans on the continent.... no matter how much some of them may want to be.

I remember we had a few idiots on here for a while talking about only black people in America are the "real blacks"

 

[Beatrice Siegal]

Historically white women haven't had children by black men because it wasn't allowed. Black men and white women haven't really been allowed to get together open and "freely" untol the last 40 years or so.

Look, I don't deny there have always been mixed c00ns who've tried to deny or distance themselves from their blackness. We live in a world dominated by white supremacy so there's some individual short term reward in that. There's individual short term reward for all blacks who turn c00n and there have been blacks of all shades and make-up who've turned c00n, so you don't really have a valid point here. There have been biracial people who were c00ns that tried to separate themselves from blackness and worked to perpetuate white supremacy, and there have been biracial blacks who accepted their blackness while working to empower the black community as a whole. Trying to paint them as all one way or the other is just dumb. Again, we as descendants of the white western
Slave trade are direct products of biracials who blended back in with the darker black race. That's why blacks outside of Africa are not 100% African. What part of that don't you get?

Sure they did.
"White women did not just have a new found revelation and start loving the arms of a #black man. Many white women and black men also had affairs, more often than expected. The offspring of these couples were also considered free since, the mother’s status of slavery or freedom was the determining factor"
https://blackthen.com/the-price-of-being-born-of-mixed-race-during-slavery/?

The rest of your response doesn't rebut mine at all. You just expanded on the concept of individualism aka not all people in a group are one way (no sh!t). Since we're talking about groups your approach doesn't fit the exchange. You wanted to know when mixed people stopped being considered black, I answered that inquiry-very simple and quite valid.

Oh and while all black people come from Africa, not all Africans are "black", at least not like AAs. The different phenotypes suggest a genetic diversity too vast to be considered a recent relation to AAs. This is why Lauryn Hill doesn't come to your mind when I say "Somali" or "Ethiopian".

Anyway, there is something I question about the premise itself; under WS mixed people are black. Why have black people empowered WS to the point where your proximity to blackness is solely based on struggle and exclusion? Or even better; are black people replaceable to the point you don't need 2 black people for the same offspring?

Anyway, proud mixed folks below

 

[Houston911]

He ain't lying tho whites don't consider you one of them unless you're pure bread 100% cac. Half breeds are nikkas in they book. This is why those Somalis and other ethnicities discuss me by denying their black heritage thinking it will get them somewhere in cac world. We have never heard a cac publicly acknowledge Obama half whiteness. Not even liberal journalist.

And I don't consider you black if you're 75% white

I don't give a shyt what white people think about it

 

[Gravity]

Sure they did.
"White women did not just have a new found revelation and start loving the arms of a #black man. Many white women and black men also had affairs, more often than expected. The offspring of these couples were also considered free since, the mother’s status of slavery or freedom was the determining factor"
https://blackthen.com/the-price-of-being-born-of-mixed-race-during-slavery/?

You're full of shyt. Your source is less than credible and even the information in that blog contradicts you. "A mixed-child born to a white woman was often abandoned or sold secretly." Why didn't you quote that part from your own bullshyt link?

The rest of your response doesn't rebut mine at all. You just expanded on the concept of individualism aka not all people in a group are one way (no sh!t). Since we're talking about groups your approach doesn't fit the exchange. You wanted to know when mixed people stopped being considered black, I answered that inquiry-very simple and quite valid.

You didn't answer anything. There's no answer to when mixed race people stopped being classified as black. The best you did was cite some obscure law from 1662 that obviously wasn't enforced. at white women who had affairs with slaves just bringing those biracial kids into the white family like it was all good. Like your own link said, those kids were sold right back into slavery just like all the other biracials and blacks. You proved my point.

I don't feel the need to read the rest of your bullshyt. You clearly have an agenda and I fell that's its counterproductive.

 

[SleezyBigSlim]

And I don't consider you black if you're 75% white

I don't give a shyt what white people think about it

None of us give a shyt what white people think about it

 

[Beatrice Siegal]

You're full of shyt. Your source is less than credible and even the information in that blog contradicts you. "A mixed-child born to a white woman was often abandoned or sold secretly." Why didn't you quote that part from your own bullshyt link?

You didn't answer anything. There's no answer to when mixed race people stopped being classified as black. The best you did was cite some obscure law from 1662 that obviously wasn't enforced. at white women who had affairs with slaves just bringing those biracial kids into the white family like it was all good. Like your own link said, those kids were sold right back into slavery just like all the other biracials and blacks. You proved my point.

I don't feel the need to read the rest of your bullshyt. You clearly have an agenda and I fell that's its counterproductive.

You seem upset. It's okay. Anyway, there is no contradiction. You said that white women weren't allowed to have mixed children, well apparently they did. The choice to abandon or sell the child didn't change the status of the child at birth or the fact the children weren't considered black. Nonwhite doesn't mean black.

As far as the rest of my response, well, it's not just for you to read- this being a forum and all. I think it'll be interesting to see how you defend WS by claiming mixed people as black while seeming to oppose it.

 

[Critical Distance]

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