Tariq gone too far?

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We know where everyone stands on the FBA vs Pan Africanism
Tariq and fools created a vs.

One thing I have long said is that pan Africanism has been one sided. Been saying this for over a decade. It’s no different than my feelings on Black women being more progressive leaders in the Black community the past decade seeing them participate in more rallies, protests, forums with the intention that benefit the people.

Pan Africanism will always be more active in places where everyday Black people are confronted with systems of white supremacy. The struggle with pan africanism in most of Black Africa is that they don’t see that their struggle is done by Black proxy. Those who attempted to relay that message were either killed off by those proxies or exiled. That along with the COINTELPRO efforts to kill Black interest in Africa by Americans……so here we are.

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He’s definitely a legend.



Don’t forget about FBA legends like this man, friend.


Kwame is Trini though. From the Bronx. So how would he look at Kwame if he’s on his current tether bullshyt? :childplease:

I don’t care if Tariq pats him in the back. That ain’t special. He copy pasted applause for him no different than I did in here. But Nothing about Tariq says he’s book read to Kwame or even my degree. Kwame understood politics. Kwame was learned. Tariq ain’t it and is built for social media bite sized attention seekers. Hes not an intellectual.
 

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ima 100% sure Tariq post on here

I never hear about him in all the other space online, it's only here

nikkas on here promoting himself through rage-bait IMHO:manny:

only reason I can think of as to why you MF keep this nikka's name thriving

fukkin stop
 

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Kwame is Trini though. From the Bronx. So how would he look at Kwame if he’s on his current tether bullshyt? :childplease:

I don’t care if Tariq pats him in the back. That ain’t special. He copy pasted applause for him no different than I did in here. But Nothing about Tariq says he’s book read to Kwame or even my degree. Kwame understood politics. Kwame was learned. Tariq ain’t it and is built for social media bite sized attention seekers. Hes not an intellectual.
You’re either implying that Mr. Ture is a “Tether” or you’re being intellectually dishonest, like so many on here, when it comes to the Honorable Tariq Nasheed’s actual stance on “Tethers”. I thought you were better than that, friend. :francis:
 

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You’re either implying that Mr. Ture is a “Tether” or you’re being intellectually dishonest, like so many on here, when it comes to the Honorable Tariq Nasheed’s actual stance on “Tethers”. I thought you were better than that, friend. :francis:
Kwame is born in Trinidad. You fill that gap and apply the rules that Tariq applies. Don’t suddenly go soft on it now. I respect Kwame more than any one, Martin and Malcolm included because he went to the bowels of the south and got Black Mississippi sharecroppers to vote when Malcolm was more comfortable, staying up north. But how would Tariq define him or will he give him a pass? See how sloppy that dumb shyt gets?

I’m sorry… Maybe you’re built to put me onto the “deep wisdom”of Tariq. It’s obvious you put an investment into him, because I don’t see wisdom in him.
 
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Kwame is born in Trinidad. You fill that gap and apply the rules that Tariq applies. Don’t suddenly go soft on it now. I respect Kwame more than any one, Martin and Malcolm included because he went to the bowels of the south and got Black Mississippi sharecroppers to vote when Malcolm was more comfortable, staying up north. But how would Tariq define him or will he give him a pass? See how sloppy that dumb shyt gets?

I’m sorry… Maybe you’re built to put me onto the “deep wisdom”of Tariq. It’s obvious you put an investment into him, because I don’t see wisdom in him.
Now you’re doubting down on your intellectual dishonesty when it comes to the Honorable Tariq Nasheed.

You and others on here are no different than the cac supremacists and bed wenches. They like to hide behind white people and Black women.

“He’s talkin bout all of us girl” - Typical Bedwench

Knowing good and well he’s calling out a certain class or subgroup from a demographic. But fake outrage and intellectual dishonesty are like kissing cousins in a toxic relationship. They shouldn’t be together, friend.
 

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Now you’re doubting down on your intellectual dishonesty when it comes to the Honorable Tariq Nasheed.

You and others on here are no different than the cac supremacists and bed wenches.
The fukk out here of this dumb ass attempt to sound deep reaching for some garbage analogy.

Because you don’t have the ability to impart the wisdom that he has imparted to you, you come up with this ad hominem script writing bullshyt. Get the fukk out of here. Either stand behind the dude and impart his wisdom as I did in talking about the wisdom of Kwame, speaking on his actions, posting his speech or just accept that you follow a buffoon.

That script writing bullshyt ain’t working.

I asked you to articulate and put me on to Tariq “wisdom.”

He’s an intellectual powerhouse, isn’t he? fukk the script writing attempt you’re on. I don’t give two shyts about name-calling or labels either so if that’s what you’re gonna graduate to in your next response, you really have nothing to offer.

All these dudes do are offer bite-size social media short attention span content that speaks to folks legit grievances while shrouded in black history. Ain’t shyt real about these clowns.
 
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The fukk out here of this dumb ass attempt to sound deep reaching for some garbage analogy.

Because you don’t have the ability to impart the wisdom that he has imparted to you, you come up with this ad hominem script writing bullshyt. Get the fukk out of here. Either stand behind the dude and impart his wisdom as I did in talking about the wisdom of Kwame, speaking on his actions, posting his speech or just accept that you follow a buffoon.

That script writing bullshyt ain’t working.

I asked you to articulate and put me on to Tariq “wisdom.”

He’s an intellectual powerhouse, isn’t he? fukk the script writing attempt you’re on. I don’t give two shyts about name-calling or labels either so if that’s what you’re gonna graduate to in your next response, you really have nothing to offer.

All these dudes do are offer bite-size social media short attention span content that speaks to folks legit grievances while shrouded in black history. Ain’t shyt real about these clowns.
Tripled down intellectually dishonest babble, friends:pachaha:
 

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Tripled down intellectually dishonest babble, friends:pachaha:
friends.

Now you have a team.

Like I said, if what you’re gonna graduate to in your next response, you really have nothing to offer. The real babble was that shyt for brains “He’s talkin bout all of us girl” guff.

That didn't hit.

Again....all these dudes do are offer bite-size social media short attention span content that speaks to folks legit grievances while shrouded in black history. Umar, Tariq.....ain’t shyt real about these clowns.
 

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Tariq and fools created a vs.

One thing I have long said is that pan Africanism has been one sided. Been saying this for over a decade. It’s no different than my feelings on Black women being more progressive leaders in the Black community the past decade seeing them participate in more rallies, protests, forums with the intention that benefit the people.

Pan Africanism will always be more active in places where everyday Black people are confronted with systems of white supremacy. The struggle with pan africanism in most of Black Africa is that they don’t see that their struggle is done by Black proxy. Those who attempted to relay that message were either killed off by those proxies or exiled. That along with the COINTELPRO efforts to kill Black interest in Africa by Americans……so here we are.

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That's the thing this argument is weird as hell the thread about the bushmeat thing No one can co sign that and it gets you no closer to bring FBA issues to the forefront.

It's like denying the Holocaust going at the jews won't get you closer to freedom and Justice.


I responded with jokes because frankly Tariq is making a mockery out of the FBA cause. He's an enemy to his own talking points in many ways.



Additionally we don't really disagree and you got to appreciate the irony of you being West African in america riding for the FBA cause and me being FBA and in Colombia and riding with the Pan Africanist cause.

To keep it a buck really they're two separate yet connected issues. I never heard a Pan Africanist intellectual advocate for more migration to the west and FBA's really don't have beef with Africans.
 

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Additionally we don't really disagree and you got to appreciate the irony of you being West African in america riding for the FBA cause and me being FBA and in Colombia and riding with the Pan Africanist cause.
Why do you think two things are polar opposites? I’m not getting that. Me Saying that I know immigrants come here light on black American history and filling the gap with classism is a thing Doesn’t come at this expense pan Africanism. What the hell are you talking about?
 

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Why do you think two things are polar opposites? I’m not getting that. Me Saying that I know immigrants come here light on black American history and filling the gap with classism is a thing Doesn’t come at this expense pan Africanism. What the hell are you talking about?
You'd agree that the average African immigrant doesn't really have an opinion of Black Americans and if they do have one it's mainly positive.

You'd also agree than the average African American could not tell you the capital of Burkina Faso either.

The elites of #bothsides care mainly about maintaining and growing their position so at a dinner party of Nigerian surgeons and of Boule Surgeons both would be talking down on working class Black people.

So essentially I'm saying that the goals of Pan Africanists and FBA don't compete meaning if Africa became united and became a global superpower FBA's lose nothing. If FBA's got reparations the Pan Africanists lose nothing. If either party got what they wanted IT WOULD INSPIRE THE OTHER GROUP

So if you believe that the idea that PanAfricanists and FBA's arguing is stupid


Get it now?
 

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You'd agree that the average African immigrant doesn't really have an opinion of Black Americans and if they do have one it's mainly positive.

Im my own spokesperson. I have grown up around black immigrants. My parents are black immigrants. I’ve lived in Africa. I’ve been previewed conversations amongst many Africans. I also know what American media does in terms of feeding people images of black Americans outside of the country.

What is it that you’re not getting in these videos where even in the questions being asked there’s the assumptive angle that many immigrants carry wear black Americans aren’t doing this or that and have to be reminded or taught what they don’t know about black history? My wife’s who is black American close friend is Igbo and said she didn’t get shyt, thinking along the very lines that I speak on at many black immigrants carry, until she read the 1619 project. There was a Nigerian girl I used to rock with and first came to this country in 1992, who thought I was crazy when we met 15 years ago when I would bring up things that black folks!!experienced in this country. She gets her masters and learns about red lining and finally says I realize you weren’t crazy.

Yes… Many black immigrants carry negative thoughts on black Americans coming into the states. You can downplay that shyt to death… I simply am not one of those people Who will engage in it. At a tailgating event last fall when a attorney person was talking and tried to tell me black Americans don’t have culture thinking I would engage in that, how to fukk would I do that the rich history of my son’s mother’s Geehcie history? Dude said it’s so casually, and when I confronted him on it, he quickly change the subject. I grew up in Crown Heights Brooklyn… Around many Caribbeans…had a child by one. This is not unusual.

Saying this does not come at the expense of pan Africanism

You'd also agree than the average African American could not tell you the capital of Burkina Faso either.

My dude...the average African outside of Burkina Faso can't tell you the capital of Burkina Faso. Africans are just as naive about other parts of Africa as are African Americans.

These are Nigerians asking "what west african country is this?"

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These are some of the comments.

"Do they use pillows in that country?
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"they live in huts!"
"Which kind thing be this?"
"Them bathe so?"

Africans are just as lost on what's going on in Africa as African Americans but no one questions them for that.

The elites of #bothsides care mainly about maintaining and growing their position so at a dinner party of Nigerian surgeons and of Boule Surgeons both would be talking down on working class Black people.

Do not compare the African elite to the Black elite in this country. There is an abject uncaring the Black elite in Africa carry for the people that pales in comparison to what I've seen here.

Did you NOT listen to what Kwame Toure said here?


"The African bourgeoisie is the most corrupt bourgeoisie than any other continent in the world. In Africa, they seek misery in the midst of mass suffering" - Kwame Toure...pan africanist.

I'm co-signing one of the biggest Pan Africanist who doesn't agree with you. You know more than Kwame? The Black elite in America are in no way as disconnected to the impoverished Black majority as the Black African elite are to their own. It ain't even close bro.
 
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