Tariq “elite” Nasheed is back at it again... **TELLING PEOPLE TO SIT OUT THE 2020 ELECTION**

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#Tangibles2020 is nothing but a new way to trick you out of your political capital. But keep following Youtubers.

I'm not impressed by a twitter graphic. Someone quote me when there are PACs and coalitions with pooled money, written bills, community organizing, and candidates of choice. That would require leaving the house and not getting that Youtube bag tho.
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most Jamaican and Latinos aren't going to trace family lineage back to slavery in America. Most of them can trace their roots back to their countries.
Most descendants of slaves can’t trace family lineage back in a provable way.

You got documentation of where your people come from? Not stories from your grandma. Actual probable documentation showing where both of your parents came from?

Most black people do not.


You're way off-base in everything you've stated. Your "brown skin" debate is just poor all the way around, I googled the term just to prove you "googled" it and found that Indie Arie video because no one else is using the term.
That’s a very popular song. How old are you?
 

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Most descendants of slaves can’t trace family lineage back in a provable way.

You got documentation of where your people come from? Not stories from your grandma. Actual probable documentation showing where both of your parents came from?

Most black people do not.



That’s a very popular song. How old are you?

most black people do not and most island people do have an inkling of their lineage...how far back is on case by case basis but typically due to the small population in the islands (relative to the time) most island people can find their roots...and so it would be fairly easy to take them off the american reparations lists.


yeah it was a popular song 10+ years ago, cmon stop. No one uses that term.
 

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Need to keep pushing the conversation, I'd be happy with 1/2 of this per qualified black American but the starting point is there .

This would be more than enough to take back our communities, stop the senseless violence, educate our kids and adults, buy houses and businesses.

The trickle down effect for some of the highest spenders in America would be well worth the legislation and would spur economic revitalization in under developed areas
 

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most black people do not and most island people do have an inkling of their lineage...how far back is on case by case basis but typically due to the small population in the islands (relative to the time) most island people can find their roots...and so it would be fairly easy to take them off the american reparations lists.


yeah it was a popular song 10+ years ago, cmon stop. No one uses that term.
So how would you pick up your check if you can’t prove where you come from?:jbhmm:
 

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So how would you pick up your check if you can’t prove where you come from?:jbhmm:


just because someone hasn't done the research doesn't mean they can't prove where they came from...unless you were abandoned as a baby, most black american have a large potential of tracing their heritage. Still you have the opposite side which is ensuring non-DOS blacks and latins aren't getting reparations, which I think should be a bit easier.


there's a few institutions already do things

On Thursday, Georgetown University announced its decision to extend preferential treatment in the admissions process to prospective students descended from enslaved people owned by the university. How will those people be able to prove their family connections? In some ways, the thousands of people with ancestors who either labored on the Maryland plantations that supported the university or were held on the Georgetown campus may have an easier time proving a relationship to their enslaved forebearers than other black Americans typically do. The nonprofit Georgetown Memory Project has hired genealogists to research the lineage of people sold by Georgetown and to reach out to people it identifies as descendants; the university is also putting documents related to the university’s slaveholding history online. Because of the records kept by the Jesuits who ran those plantations, lineages may be less difficult to trace than has often been the case for those black Americans who have tried to uncover their genealogies.


Both Berry and Burroughs wanted me to make it clear to prospective researchers that the challenges of finding enslaved ancestors might seem great, but they are not insurmountable. Still: I am a person with a love of research, and listening to the two genealogists speak about the barriers they had found, and crossed, in tracing their own family histories, I found my head spinning. It became clear that any future institutions intending to extend benefits to descendants of enslaved people must make it a practice to do as Georgetown is doing and offer help to people who need to find the relevant records to prove their connection



so again you're wrongly assuming this cannot be done, when it can for probably a large majority of people - we just haven't tried. so instead of sitting back and being a naysayer why don't you discuss your SOLUTION?

I know why, because you ain't got no answers Sway. You've come across as a crab in a barrel...you have no point except to say "can't, won't, not, no"
 

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just because someone hasn't done the research doesn't mean they can't prove where they came from...unless you were abandoned as a baby, most black american have a large potential of tracing their heritage. Still you have the opposite side which is ensuring non-DOS blacks and latins aren't getting reparations, which I think should be a bit easier.


there's a few institutions already do things





so again you're wrongly assuming this cannot be done, when it can for probably a large majority of people - we just haven't tried. so instead of sitting back and being a naysayer why don't you discuss your SOLUTION?

I know why, because you ain't got no answers Sway. You've come across as a crab in a barrel...you have no point except to say "can't, won't, not, no"

So you won’t be able to get reparations then :mjlol:
 

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So proven wrong again and that's all you say?
I have not been proven wrong by anything you said. Even your link says with the great record keeping they have it will be very difficult to follow SOME of the people’s lineage.

Listen to what you are advocating.

The U.S. government to require proof from black people of their ancestry.

Think about how much of a mess and burden it is for black people to apply for and qualify for other government services, and you think it’s a good idea to put black folks through all that with the burden of proof on us.

That’s a recipe for all type of fukkery all cause you want to make sure no Latinos get any money.

If any politician can get any real movement on reparations, then all these arguments are mere distractions.

If AOC can get some money pumping into black houses and neighborhoods then I don’t give a fukk if purple people get a piece.

These little arguments are exactly what the government users to continue to exploit us all. In this situation you would be willingly signing up to be the poor hic ass white dude happy cause he has a bit more money than the black folks all while continually getting fukked out of his own resources.

Hate makes you irrational.
 

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I have not been proven wrong by anything you said. Even your link says with the great record keeping they have it will be very difficult to follow SOME of the people’s lineage.

Listen to what you are advocating.

The U.S. government to require proof from black people of their ancestry.

Think about how much of a mess and burden it is for black people to apply for and qualify for other government services, and you think it’s a good idea to put black folks through all that with the burden of proof on us.

That’s a recipe for all type of fukkery all cause you want to make sure no Latinos get any money.

If any politician can get any real movement on reparations, then all these arguments are mere distractions.

If AOC can get some money pumping into black houses and neighborhoods then I don’t give a fukk if purple people get a piece.

These little arguments are exactly what the government users to continue to exploit us all. In this situation you would be willingly signing up to be the poor hic ass white dude happy cause he has a bit more money than the black folks all while continually getting fukked out of his own resources.

Hate makes you irrational.
The reality is Tariq and Jason Black are in the business of being mad. That’s not even to say some anger isn’t justified but that’s literally their business.

Imagine making arguments that universal programs that would disproportionately help black people are not “tangibles”:deadmanny:
 

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The reality is Tariq and Jason Black are in the business of being mad. That’s not even to say some anger isn’t justified but that’s literally their business.

Imagine making arguments that universal programs that would disproportionately help black people are not “tangibles”:deadmanny:
Like I said that hate and anger makes people irrational.

That’s literally what AOC did was make the idea of reparations “tangible” by tying it to the new deal, but all these dudes heard is that Latinos might get some money so they got mad:mindblown:
 

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The reality is Tariq and Jason Black are in the business of being mad. That’s not even to say some anger isn’t justified but that’s literally their business.

Imagine making arguments that universal programs that would disproportionately help black people are not “tangibles”:deadmanny:
it hurts their bottom line. those idiots cannot be taken serious.
 

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Like I said that hate and anger makes people irrational.

That’s literally what AOC did was make the idea of reparations “tangible” by tying it to the new deal, but all these dudes heard is that Latinos might get some money so they got mad:mindblown:
they didnt bother listening to her point either and I am now certain they didn't read Coates article on reparations.

Way more people were probably affected and benefitted from housing discrimination.

I think America should give money for slavery and for housing discrimination.
 
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