Tamerlan Tsarvaev was an HL paranoid conspiracy theorist

[88m3]

Says a troll who worships the French...who were known for genocide in Africa.

You're thinking of the Belgians, anyways yeah you're really good with history, geography, and languages. You'll leave assisted living someday friend.

There have never been any massacres in "Palestine" or in Lebanon.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

You're thinking of the Belgians, anyways yeah you're really good with history, geography, and languages. You'll leave assisted living someday friend.

There have never been any massacres in "Palestine" or in Lebanon.

The Jewish occupation of Palestine is an ongoing massacre friend

It is what it is... many of my close friends + exes are Israeli

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

yeah im talking about people on both sides of hte spectrum who do that. its stupid to say "only infowars.com is right and cnn followers are crazy" or "only cnn.com is right and infowards followers are crazy" because both sources have proved to to be unreliable for accurate information. You can't just write off an entire group because you don't like the way some of the people who are in that group act. im not going to believe that obama is gonna use drones to send my kids to government mandated "gay class" just like im not gonna believe anything that piers morgan ever says.

I dont think anyone in HL deems CNN or any mainstream media outlet to be a credible source. Plus most respectable HLers will post sources to back up claims/opinions. Conspiracy theorists discuss theory as fact and get angry when you ask them to stop confusing the two

 

[thekingsmen]

You're thinking of the Belgians, anyways yeah you're really good with history, geography, and languages. You'll leave assisted living someday friend.

I was speaking about the French


There have never been any massacres in "Palestine" or in Lebanon.

Israel Invasion of Lebanon in 1978 killed 2,000 People
1982 Lebanon War where Israel occupied it and killed 8,000 people
1996 Israel attacks Lebanon kills 350 People

I can go on....



King David Hotel Bombing by Irgun killed 91 People.
Ein al Zeitun massacre- Irgun
Deir Yassin massacre- Irgun
Cairo-Haifa Train bombing- Lehi Gang
Sorona Police Station bombing- Lehi Gang
Bevingrad Officers Club bombing- Irgun
Ramla vegetable market bombing- Irgun
Sa'sa' village ambush in the Safad district- Palmach

there is more....

you know history....

 

[NZA]

maybe he though 9/11 was an inside job and then used as an excuse to go after Muslim

i dont even know what this means

 

[NZA]

Who plans a caper but stops the planning before you are safe and sound

damn near everybody in prison

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

I will just add that all these conspiracy theories are very popular with right wing Islamists and sympathizers of jihadis in Pakistan - from 9/11, Jewish bankers, Federal Reserve, "False flags" to Malala being a CIA agent etc.

Yes, I had read that too and it's not surprising. I think it adds another layer of flammability.

I always tell PCTs that if the stuff they believe is true--the government is really behind 9/11 and OKC and purposely poisoning the water and giving people cancer, etc.--then that actually would be justification for armed revolution. If their theories are true, the government is actively waging war on the people and killing us, so we should be forming militias and blowing up state capitals and assassinating politicians and stuff.

If you really believe that stuff and do nothing but bytch about it on the internet, then you don't really have any principles.

So to someone who gets engulfed in that jihadist element and is already reading and willing to carry out acts of violence, and then you add layers of even more all-encompassing conspiracy about the infidel Jews controlling and tyrannizing the entire population, I'd imagine that could really steel and ignite someone even more.

A friend of mine who stayed in Israel and Palestine told me a lot of Palestinians believe those same things, too (and he's a heavy Palestinian sympathizer.) I can see why they would, but it makes for strange bedfellows.

Yes, strange bedfellows indeed. It's funny how that paleoconservative (often subtle) anti-semitic stuff appeals to such a wide cross-section of people who feel disaffected and shafted by the elite power structure.

You have people, including some who post here, who advocate, cite, and use the language and many of the ideas of left wing revolution, yet are attracted and swayed into this Ron Paul/Austrian economics worldview.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

VVD what was that story about when Meta-reign came into face to face contact with some uber powerful jew and Meta shined his shoes for him and told him to have a wonderful weekend?

That was the funniest thread in KTL history. Meta Reign spent years there calling 9/11 an inside job and talking about it being plotted by Illuminati Jews who rape kids at Bohemian Grove and all that, and claimed that wealthy real estate magnate Larry Silverstein was part of the plot.

Then he made a thread talking about how he met Larry Silverstein and gave him a business card and offered to be his broker and sounded all happy like a teenage girl who just met Justin Bieber.

Dude basically said straight up he's willing to throw all that self-righteous shyt he preached for years down the toilet for a chance to make a quick buck.

Stop making gross generalizations and mischaracterizations of anyone that doesn't espouse your liberal narrative idiot.

Wtf does this have to do with being liberal? Please try to make sense.

@VictorVonDoom to be fair... the CIA was indirectly responsible for 9/11


think about it

Eh...that's a stretch bruh. You can definitely argue by arming and training the mujahideen against the Soviets for its own geopolitical interest, the C.I.A. played an indirect role in what led up to 9/11 in the late 70's and early 80's, but there's a big difference between that and being part of orchestrating the attack itself like dude was suggesting.

False. Most "anti-conspiracy theory" people consider anyone that doesn't accept the stated "factual" basis of how an imaginable event occured (i.e. 9/11, Boston Bombing, the JFK assasination, the MLK assasination, or the Malcom X's assasination) they're considered loony and reactionary morons that you can't have an intelligent conversation with.

People who wholly believe whatever is reported as "fact" are the true idiots in my book.

You don't even believe in any of this Alex Jones bullshyt anyway. You just like being an antagonistic dikkhead in HL for whatever reason.

 

[Berniewood Hogan]

I always tell PCTs that if the stuff they believe is true--the government is really behind 9/11 and OKC and purposely poisoning the water and giving people cancer, etc.--then that actually would be justification for armed revolution. If their theories are true, the government is actively waging war on the people and killing us, so we should be forming REDACTED REDACTED REDACTED and stuff.

If you really believe that stuff and do nothing but bytch about it on the internet, then you don't really have any principles.

SO YOU THINK INTERNET CONSPIRACY THEORIES LEAD TO SOME "ARMCHAIR REVOLUTIONARIES" TURNING INTO DOMESTIC TERRORISTS, BROTHER... AND THEN YOU EGG THEM ON AND DARE THEM TO ESSENTIALLY BECOME DOMESTIC TERRORISTS, DUDE?

 

[thekingsmen]

So VVD what theories have been debunked?

 

[OsO]

I always tell PCTs that if the stuff they believe is true--the government is really behind 9/11

i dont think the issue is whether the government was behind it, the government orchestrated it, or they simply let it happen because right now the level of government involvement in 9/11 is a virtual unknown.

what is known is they are not giving us all the information, they were not transparent with the appointed 9/11 investigation committee and even went so far as to impede the investigation (which is very suspicious, and usually the behavior of guilty parties), and there are a lot of suspicious events and coincidences surrounding the entire ordeal.

especially taking into account the events that took place after 9/11 with our invasion into iraq, the passing of the patriot act, and all the wealth that was created certain networks of bankers, defense companies, energy companies, etc., as a result of the wars and legislation.

but the main point is the government handled the whole thing incompetently. lets assume for a moment the government (including all federal agencies) is totally innocent of all malicious intent and involvement with 9/11... they still totally mismanaged the whole situation and did not allow the entire truth to come out. that to me is unacceptable.

and purposely poisoning the water

SODIUM FLUORIDE -- Pesticidal Uses

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and giving people cancer

human exposure to the massive amount of chemicals put into food, and the massive amount of new chemicals created for industrial use, and all the toxins we are exposed to on a daily basis, has contributed significantly to the downturn in human health.

but again, let's assume for a moment there was no malicious intent on the part of the government to introduce these toxins into our society... the fact is they still let the toxins be introduced into our society and they are still not effectively regulating it. again, this is completely unacceptable.

the governments #1 job is to protect the people, and at the very minimum the government is allowing the general public to be exposed to several harmful toxins... and we wont even get into the dangerous radiation we are exposed to every second that is interfering with several bodily functions including cell replication.

therefore the government is failing at its main duty and should be replaced immediately.

then that actually would be justification for armed revolution. If their theories are true, the government is actively waging war on the people and killing us, so we should be forming militias and blowing up state capitals and assassinating politicians and stuff.

please dont talk about this as a viable strategy, this is not the 60s breh, nobody is going gun-to-gun with the beast. that will not benefit us in any way shape or form.

"nikkas ranting and raving bout gats, nikka they made them gats, and got some shyt that'll blow out your back, from where THEY stay at..."





i actually think me and you see a lot of the same problems with society and the government, we just disagree about WHY it's happening. you don't think it's intentional on the part of the government, to you it's just incompetence and greed. while i think its incompetence, greed, AND maliciousness.

but that doesnt even matter because the bigger point is - whether we are getting fukked because of government incompetence/greed/maliciousness, or because of corporate incompetence/greed/maliciousness is a moot point. all that really matters is WE ARE ALL GETTING fukkED. that much we can agree on right?

so let's stop arguing over the bullshyt, get organized, and do something about it

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

i dont think the issue is whether the government was behind it, the government orchestrated it, or they simply let it happen because right now the level of government involvement in 9/11 is a virtual unknown.

what is known is they are not giving us all the information, they were not transparent with the appointed 9/11 investigation committee and even went so far as to impede the investigation (which is very suspicious, and usually the behavior of guilty parties), and there are a lot of suspicious events and coincidences surrounding the entire ordeal.

especially taking into account the events that took place after 9/11 with our invasion into iraq, the passing of the patriot act, and all the wealth that was created certain networks of bankers, defense companies, energy companies, etc., as a result of the wars and legislation.

but the main point is the government handled the whole thing incompetently. lets assume for a moment the government (including all federal agencies) is totally innocent of all malicious intent and involvement with 9/11... they still totally mismanaged the whole situation and did not allow the entire truth to come out. that to me is unacceptable.

The Bush administration tried to stonewall the 9/11 investigation because there was a massive fukk up within the law enforcement and intelligence community. The agencies weren't communicated with each other and dots weren't connected.

I agree that the government was incompetent and not forthcoming with everything, but it's disingenuous to try and merge that together with the notion that 9/11 was an inside job and act as if there is little to no daylight between those two ideas in terms of ethical culpability. They are entirely different in terms of their ramifications. It's like the difference between a guy who lives in a high-crime neighborhood and beefs with neighborhood thugs, and leaves his family alone unarmed with no security and goons come in and kill his wife, and a guy who plotted with the goons to kill his wife to collect insurance money or something. One is irresponsibility decision making leading to unintended consequences. The other is murder.

SODIUM FLUORIDE -- Pesticidal Uses

http://home.vicnet.net.au/~fluoride/Images/AFN-BestSweeneysCan6S400T.gif

Not this shyt again. Fluoride is used in water because because it is shown to prevent tooth decay in study after study. But I know that no matter how much data or science or logic I bring the table, you're going to believe whatever crazy conspiracy you heard about the government purposely poisoning people with fluoride.

This is an example of the absurdity of conspiratorial thinking. Who do you think implemented fluoridation of water in the first place and continues to support it? Dentists, scientists...learned people who did case studies and experiments serving the public good who came to find out that fluoride prevents the rotting of teeth. Not some robed, moustache-twirling Illuminati villains.

human exposure to the massive amount of chemicals put into food, and the massive amount of new chemicals created for industrial use, and all the toxins we are exposed to on a daily basis, has contributed significantly to the downturn in human health.

@the downturn in human health. I must've missed that.

Life expectancy in the USA, 1900-98

but again, let's assume for a moment there was no malicious intent on the part of the government to introduce these toxins into our society... the fact is they still let the toxins be introduced into our society and they are still not effectively regulating it. again, this is completely unacceptable.

the governments #1 job is to protect the people, and at the very minimum the government is allowing the general public to be exposed to several harmful toxins... and we wont even get into the dangerous radiation we are exposed to every second that is interfering with several bodily functions including cell replication.

therefore the government is failing at its main duty and should be replaced immediately.

First of all, the government is not responsible to take care of peoples' health. That is not mandated in the Constitution. It's the individual's responsibility to take care of your own health.

Now I do agree that the government should be regulating toxic products and providing for consumer safety because it's the decent humane thing to do. And they do. I actually work in a laboratory in the manufacturing industry and I have to read and follow the federal regulations, and compose and type up company procedures which abide by them, so I know how intensive they get. I also know that many of them make perfect sense and some of them make no sense.

The world is not perfect. The government can do more and better in some areas, but they cannot prevent you from being exposed to toxins especially when industrial growth has gotten to ramped up while the population is growing exponentially simultaneously.

You would be better served to try and identify where there is room for improvement and what could be done to change that instead of just getting on this aimless "the evil government is poisoning us!" trip.

You don't seem to get that the trend of quality of health in general and protections against toxic products is on the INCLINE, not the DECLINE.

please dont talk about this as a viable strategy, this is not the 60s breh, nobody is going gun-to-gun with the beast. that will not benefit us in any way shape or form.

"nikkas ranting and raving bout gats, nikka they made them gats, and got some shyt that'll blow out your back, from where THEY stay at..."

I'm not talking about a viable strategy. I'm talking about ethical justification. If your view is correct (which I do not believe in the slightest) then the government does need to be torn asunder through violence. Revolutions happen everyday, b. Look all around the globe. But you know in your heart of hearts, you ain't about that because you love your life too much and you are comfortable. Some guy in Gaza has nothing to lose, so he has no qualms about launching rockets at Israel. Your life doesn't line up with your rhetorical posturing.

i actually think me and you see a lot of the same problems with society and the government, we just disagree about WHY it's happening. you don't think it's intentional on the part of the government, to you it's just incompetence and greed. while i think its incompetence, greed, AND maliciousness.

I agree with that somewhat.

but that doesnt even matter because the bigger point is - whether we are getting fukked because of government incompetence/greed/maliciousness, or because of corporate incompetence/greed/maliciousness is a moot point. all that really matters is WE ARE ALL GETTING fukkED. that much we can agree on right?

"Getting fukked" is relative. Every human being in every nation-state can argue they're getting fukked in some way, shape, or form. You're mad at the wrong things. There are enough real ways in which we're getting fukked, but you seem to want invent ones like this fluoride nonsense and 9/11 conspiracy.

You generally come off like a privileged denizen of a 1st world nation with too much comfort and too much leisure time inventing things to bytch about.

Why don't you go to Burkina Faso and tell Ibrahim about how you're getting fukked so bad in America by having to work about 40 hours a week and getting paid $25,000-$60,0000, whatever it is you make per year and having to suffer under the intolerable conditions of having fluoride in your water, as opposed to shyt, guinea worms, and cholera, and how horrible it is that you get to live until you're about 75 on average. Then watch him give you this

 

[keepemup]

Lol. Of course. I mean, why else would this be said? You've gotta dissociate yourselves as far away from the 9/11 conspiracy as possible because this is what people who believe in this type of stuff do. I'm friggin' dying over here. I will imbibe this message without applying any critical thinking to it. Thank you for clearing up any misconceptions I might have had about 'typical terrorists'. I was beginning to worry for a moment (LOL).

 

[Polofresh4]

damn near everybody in prison

I dont understand what u mean?

 

[Mr. Somebody]

Wow the Russians told the US about this individual. Twice.