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He unholstered his weapon only after being verbally threatened, but he didn't point it. He then reholstered after assessing that it wasn't needed, only to be physically assaulted. If anybody should catch a case it's the white man who instigated the whole thing.
It comes down to the fine details. During the course of an argument, one party unholstering a weapon can be considered a "threat" and/or menacing, so can pointing at a gun on your waist or simply tapping it as a way of letting someone know that you're strapped. WIthout someone actually pointing it at someone, or actually discharging it, it becomes light weight, wishy washy not worth prosecuting; but people have been arrested for it, and it really depends on the City or State and how it's articulated with any after effects.

Using a gun due to a threat of a fist fight would depend on the details too. It can be considered the unequal use of force in a self-defense situation. Again, it might be different in Florida because they are pretty liberal with carrying laws, but in NYC they'd charge you before you could blink twice. But a lot of it comes down to who escalated the situation and how, along with whether the person being threatened could reasonably come to the conclusion that they were in a serious threat of a serious physical injury or death--it becomes very subjective in that case. A Jury may understand a little old woman pulling a strap to a guy who throws up his hands, but another guy considerably younger who is equal weight, height, fighting ability etc etc probably wouldn't pass.

My guess, hypotehtically in this case, if the guy had of shot it, he probably would be charged with second degree homicide., but then again Florida has been really strange with this "stand your ground" law especially after that parking lot incident where someone was killed and got off for it.
 
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The brother really can be arrested. Even with ccw, you can't flash it. He fukked up there, but hopefully he survives that slip up.
 

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A gun was not needed in this situation period. You saw the assailants reaction to a quick chin check :heh: he ran for the hills. There was no need to pull a pistol and put you and your family's future in jeopardy.

I hope you get the message.
Yeah listening to folks on here get all rilled up on racial tension is gonna get them 25 to life :heh:

You really shouldn't pull a strap on anyone unless you obviously need to, or if you have a really good explanation for it. Otherwise, you're setting yourself for a serious charge.
 

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The laws may have changed since I last looked into them, but in florida even if you're licensed you CAN NOT allow any one else to view your firearm as that can be seen as threatening. Police were very clear to me on that.

Now it's been a while so maybe it's been adjusted.
 

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This also shows me and reinforces that we as black women need to have our own form of gun protection ...if the black man wasn't there that cac would have continued lashing out or even worse. But first and foremost,we all need to appreciate him for stepping up and thankful that he was there though to defend and control the situation ..again salute to him! Respect to all black people standing up for themselves and protecting our race; not backing down and having a docile mentality. This sends a message to those cakkks.


Oh boy I agree with this 1000%!

I made sure my sister and mother has a couple of pieces on them. I have plenty of protection, and just give a few guns to my family when I'm tired of them.
 

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Yeah listening to folks on here get all rilled up on racial tension is gonna get them 25 to life :heh:

You really shouldn't pull a strap on anyone unless you obviously need to, or if you have a really good explanation for it. Otherwise, you're setting yourself for a serious charge.

Yea I'm thinking some folks here don't have experience with the criminal (in)justice system. As a black man you can't just pull a pistol out and think it's all good. Even if you're justified legally that doesn't mean justified in the court of law unfortunately.

He pulled the grip on a mutant ninja turtle :heh: Smack that lil n*gga and send him back to the sewer where he came from, with your freedom in tact.

In fact I would probably sue the white man because he threw the first punch.
 

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Why racist white people so nosy and they cant stay in their lane.

White boy all in a females face and when white boy was told not to appear threatening

White boy couldn't keep his mouth shut.

Is the audio altered on yall playback? Seem the words was not clear.

But white boy didnt want the heat.

The is more to be said, that things dont get out of hand. And everyone is cordial and everyone moves on without harm.

Seems white boy was just ready for the L. Just standing his ground, literally. Those are one of those situations where people say they where threatened and one tells the tale.

Clearly, the breh showed more caution. Its rather gray to say he should have blown him away. Because he felt threatened.

What if they both showed they had their thang on.

Mind over matter.
 

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Keep tellin y’all edomites only respect violence. Cowards gonna get you killed talkin bout “b b b ut they have more weapons.” :mjlol:

Edit: it’s in FLORIDA “stand your ground” :mjgrin: I’m out this thread
 
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