Survived Early 90s Drug Game in NYC AMA

[DropTopDoc]

Yea when I first joined this forum I didn’t really start posting a lot until a few months in. I know I asked this before but I wonder what percentage of Americans actually post on forums?

Probably a small percentage, it’s probably some 40k people on this forum, a lot of folks lurk, or post exclusively to one forum/one thread

 

[lib123]

I agree with this. Hate how women these days say “the men today are worse than men back then” wtf

In their defense, a lot of their mothers and aunts probably don't tell them the details of how badly they were treated out of shame.

 

[UberEatsDriver]

In their defense, a lot of their mothers and aunts probably don't tell them the details of how badly they were treated out of shame.

That and also even till this day my dad gets nervous when he knows my sister is using the train by herself. He still has ptsd from the crack era where it was almost certain a women was going to get killed, raped or mugged

 

[Louisville Slugz]

Some of you have asked about Alpo/SNITCHING. I have a very different perspective on this than the common shyt you hear from these so-called OGs (think Kevin Chiles) who are still eating off of what they did in the streets and how deep in the game they were or "honorable" they were. Glorifying it like they are the real black/latin versions of Michael Corleone.

Snitching is just like violence/stick ups. If you sign up for the game, you are signing up to be ratted on too, not just dealing with the risk of death/becoming prey. This is part of my message to the youth too who are dabbling in the streets/trying to do their thing out there.

Alpo and people like him personified the game. They were the dudes who had the heart to run up on a rival block dolo busting their guns. Would kill you without thinking, would go to sleep dreaming about the game, and wake up to enjoy it, they lived for that shyt. If you can look at a dude who collected bodies in the game and killed without a conscience, how can you say he was real and a dude who snitched wasn't. They were both just as selfish, all about self-preservation, true sociopaths... Both types ruined lives and, like I've said, the mass murderers were often rats too.

If you sign up for this street shyt you are signing up for a game that has ZERO RULES. The only person making the rules is the White Man and his institutions. And he can change them whenever he feels like it. The only rule that our people abide by out there is that of self-preservation because that's all we can do.

I'm not saying we should celebrate the Alpos/Nicky Barnes of the game. We shouldn't celebrate them OR the big time killers... Both are equally responsible for the destruction and demise of our communities. EQUALLY.

I never snitched but I wasn't wearing a potential death penalty like Alpo was when he turned state's witness. Heavy is the head that wears the crown. The better you were at the hustle game, the more likely it was you'd be put in a situation where snitching was a real possibility. All of these OGs who exploit their reputation in the streets from that era can keep that shyt, they tell the youth to avoid the game but celebrate how "honorable" cats were back then... It's mixed messages and it's counter-productive, that's why they get no respect from me.

 

[NoirDynosaur]

Impressive thread. Enjoyed reading the stories of OP's time in gritty raw NYC...reminds me of the Wire if it was stationed in the Big Apple.

Props to OP for transforming his life around. Salute.

 

[get these nets]

. My first hand experience is seeing dudes making conscious decision to get involved..both parents, decent place to live....still selling drugs on the corner for sneakers, jewelry and cars.

Again, thanks for your candid answers.

I was inside. Styles was outside, and says the same thing

 

[DropTopDoc]

Dude gave the most honest and candid discussion of the game I’ve ever heard no glory, just honest real stories

 

[010101]

everlasting cycle

just another season of the same show

ha

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[re'up]

Sometimes you just need to get this off your heart/out of your head. Not a lot of outlets for those kinds of thoughts and stories.

 

[murksiderock]

I was inside. Styles was outside, and says the same thing

That whole Styles interview was dope!

He said he started selling crack because he wanted sneakers and clothes . Which, I've heard dudes say this before. This specifically isn't relatable to me because I never gave a fukk about fashion to that degree...

I went from weed at 15 ('04), to weed and crack and a little lean at 16. I think I've shared this on here before, but for me, it was organic. I went to high school in Virginia and this white boy at school was selling weed, I started buying from him to re-sell it and the shyt worked. I can't remember how I met him, and I never smoked, and we aren't talking anything big here. But it put a few dollars in my pocket and gave me my first taste at having my own...

The vast majority of people didn't even know I was selling weed, it was only white kids buying from me. I got kicked out of school in January '05 on an indefinite suspension, getting knocked on a drug search. Suspension was commuted to 365 days, then commuted to 30...

When I got busted at school is when everyone found out and it gave me some added notoriety...

I was already known as a brawler, hothead type. The person I really looked up to was this guy "Tim P" from my neighborhood, who was really only like 19 at the time. But he had a Lexus, all the girls my age wanted him, he had a bunch of chicks older than us, he lived like a half block from me. He was that dude and as I was developing my own personality, I tried to mimic some of his swagger...

So it really wasn't a conscious thing with me. I met this white boy and decided to re-sell the shyt he sold me, I never thought about clothes or anything, I kinda got into shoes a year later but at the time I wasn't thinking fashion. But I've said it before, many, if not most, dudes who go that route, do so in bids of impressing other men, and I guess that was it for me. The girls didn't really give a fukk in general what I was doing. The other guys are like, "yall know Rock got the bud", or "yall know Rock a beat a nikka ass", or "man J-Rock a real nikka"...

It's happened but very few girls were talking like this about me, it was guys. And guys validating you as a "real nikka" meant I must of done something right...

The evolution into selling crack and publicly gang affiliating was a natural progression of where I was headed anyway, the more time passed the more I wasn't the 15-year old trying to emulate who I thought Tim P was, I was becoming who I was anyway...

Sometimes you just need to get this off your heart/out of your head. Not a lot of outlets for those kinds of thoughts and stories.

Bruh I think we actually spoke on this in years past. There really aren't any outlets for guys who aren't active participants, and have no desire to associate with active cats like that. It's tough, because the things you experience don't just disappear from you because you start living differently...

 

[Nicole0416_718_929_646212]

Wish we still had posters like this active on this site and actual stories, instead of the chatty cacky anti-black propaganda, shade room sustivity, defeatism bull shyt or faggitry click bait every time you open the damn site that’s become normalized.

 

[SadimirPutin]

Being fly is the genesis of a bunch of drug dealing careers

 

[ISO]

I was inside. Styles was outside, and says the same thing

That’s the motivation for most. Fairly obvious if you really grew up in the hood. Either you was born into it or the material possessions drew you in.

Nikkas don’t wanna talk about that though.

 

[ISO]

I agree with this. Hate how women these days say “the men today are worse than men back then” wtf

Pimp game was strong back then women were commodities bytches and whores. shyt was vile I don’t think today compares.

Yeah marriage rate was higher but so was domestic violence and cheating and secret families. Anybody with a real old school grand dad can attest and a lot of them nikkas was downright mean.

Women are much better off today.

 

[Ol’Otis]

Wish we still had posters like this active site and actual stories, instead of the chatty cacky anti-black propaganda, shade room sustivity, defeatism bull shyt or faggitry click bait every time you open the damn site that’s become normalized.

Solid ass thread
Kinda confirmed what I had been thinking
The whole “street code” shyt is bogus and a fairytale