Survived Early 90s Drug Game in NYC AMA

[Ol’Otis]

fukk outta here with the Snowfall shyt

A lot of the old heads are complaining about Snowfall

John should’ve just consulted Rick and Waterhead Bo

 

[Mtt]

When I was about at the end of my time in, we're talking Fall 2016, I had a homeboy get arrested in Florida with another associate of ours. They got knocked with H (nothing major, just a few bundles) and had outstanding warrants on robberies in Alabama and a body and robberies in North Carolina. There were two other guys in NC implicated in the body with them, but I dont know those guys...

Anyway lot of talking in the street after they got arrested, eventually people (including his girl) telling me my homeboy was snitching on the other three dudes about the body. Where this ties me in is a few months prior I'd given homeboy a gun, and the potential homeboy had used the gun in any of the crimes he was accused of...

So everybody around me, my homegirl, pregnant girl at the time, other homeboys unrelated to these guys I knew, told me to dissociate myself completely from dude. Dont answer his calls or communicate with his girl about him, because if he was telling on the body he would tell about where he got a gun from or even lie about the shyt. Plus he'd been with me and around me on a number of trips transporting drugs between states, so people thought dude could flip on me about that...

This entered my mind too, but a couple other things did as well. First, the gun I gave him was at least two months before he got arrested, I hadn't seen dude in over two months. So when he got knocked, if the gun I gave him was recovered, it hadn't been in my possession in so long it would be impossible to say I ever had it...

So if it was used in any crime, it would be impossible to link me to any crime, mainly because I really had nothing to do with them to start with. Serial was scratched off the firearm anyway, so tracing its origins would be hard and if its origins were traced it STILL wouldn't trace back to me because it's not like I bought it legally or could go buy a gun anywhere legally...

I was on probation at this time for possession of a firearm and people coulda violated me for associating with dude, and getting a gun charge while on probation for a gun charge is what had all my people more afraid than anything. But again thinking it through about the only thing that coulda come from it was an empty investigation that went nowhere...

So I shared this story with my coworker yesterday, you have to look at things rationally. Just because someone you know gets bumped doesn't mean you're next, and at any rate they have to prove you were involved, starting with probable cause to have sufficient evidence to even charge you with. nikkas don't get charged just because someone says your name...

And at any rate he isnt worried about his guy telling, so there's nothing to worry about. If you fukked around half decade ago and been clean since, the only thing that could trip you is if you still associate with nikkas who are still active. That's willful association and can breed a conspiracy to some current shyt you may not ne part of, but they not coming to you for some shyt you've long distanced yourself from...

damm thats stressful as hell. you not involved or you used to be but the stressful doubt that people might still implicate you or exaggerate your role to tie you in ......man the streets is anxiety to the fullest

 

[CashmereThoughts]

Watched a gang of people around me, in different states, have the typical outcome, and I'm sitting here at 30 in two weeks one of the rare individuals I know who was in the shyt for real and walked away with no ties, hands clean...

strange feeling when you realize you escaped something that most people could not and their life is in shambles and yours is not

 

[murksiderock]

damm thats stressful as hell. you not involved or you used to be but the stressful doubt that people might still implicate you or exaggerate your role to tie you in ......man the streets is anxiety to the fullest

It can be stressful for sure, I wasn't stressed, though. I knew there was really nothing on me and unless homeboy was wearing a wire when we were out and about or when I gave him the gun, if he said anything it couldn't be proven...

strange feeling when you realize you escaped something that most people could not and their life is in shambles and yours is not

For real, man. Cats grow old still doing the same thing, die incarcerated or on the street. Have mental issues or addictions...

Truly a different reality which even now I hear about someone or see something that reminds me how different I am....

 

[re'up]

Unless your friend laundered money, that could be traced, like purchased properties, and the once who is now charged, started cooperating in depth, he has nothing to worry about. Even then, there has to be serious motivation. There are always loose threads and loose ends, and not everyone in every circle, in every deal, in every conspiracy is going to be charged. If your friend has been working, and living a normal life, probably far from luxurious, just a guy lucky to escape with his life, he probably should be fine.

100% right, that just saying a name isn't enough, in most cases. There needs to be corroborating evidence, and an investigation initiated, currently. It's not enough to say in 2014, I sold this guy a half a kilo. They want text messages, and phone records, drug seizures tied to surveillance, indisputable proof that a crime was committed. Unless they have some sort of fixation on that target.

 

[murksiderock]

Unless your friend laundered money, that could be traced, like purchased properties, and the once who is now charged, started cooperating in depth, he has nothing to worry about. Even then, there has to be serious motivation. There are always loose threads and loose ends, and not everyone in every circle, in every deal, in every conspiracy is going to be charged. If your friend has been working, and living a normal life, probably far from luxurious, just a guy lucky to escape with his life, he probably should be fine.

100% right, that just saying a name isn't enough, in most cases. There needs to be corroborating evidence, and an investigation initiated, currently. It's not enough to say in 2014, I sold this guy a half a kilo. They want text messages, and phone records, drug seizures tied to surveillance, indisputable proof that a crime was committed. Unless they have some sort of fixation on that target.

This is pretty much the message I gave him too!

 

[Crude]

Really good thread I been reading it off and on all day.

 

[Ol’Otis]

it seemed like they were less money-oriented and hierarchical than us.

@Barnett114 @Supreme Clientele ive been saying this lately about LA gangs

 

[Alvin]

Probably one of the best AMA's in a minute

 

[ISO]

This shyt belong in the rafters

I picture OP looks like Felipe Luciano

 

[Robo Squirrel]

Most number of bricks you lost?

 

[87 others]

I wonder what the OP’s opinion on the 6ix9ine situation is.

 

[Cat piss martini]

I survived the 90's in St Louis.

 

[Oldschooler]

That's actually apocryphal. City-owned brownstones in Harlem were never selling for $1. Even when the area was at its worst, people were entering into lotteries to purchase them (preference given to long-standing area residents). They were at least $15K down payments, sometimes a lot more. I'm guessing they usually went for 30 or 40K. That obviously doesn't sound like a lot of money compared to what they're worth now, but for poor people it was (and still is). Not to mention extensive work that would have to go in to making an abandoned building habitable after its only residents for a decade had been rats and junkies.

The city did do transactions with developers selling vacant lots for a token amount (usually $1) but that was a formality to call it a land purchase when in actuality it was a way for the city to privatize public land that lay undeveloped--it was akin to granting contracts to developers (post eminent domain)... The city didn't want to be the developer, this was in a neo-liberal period of putting urban renewal in the hands of big corporations/real estate syndicates that persist to this day.

While black and brown people could have done more, sure, a lot of us had our backs against the corner in that era there really wasn't any chance for people who could barely put food on the table to go out there and buy up/develop real estate. Anyone who says otherwise is writing revisionist history in an attempt to denigrate a beleaguered people with the chips stacked against us in all eras.

It pisses me off to think how many black families were displaced or did not even get an opportunity at making some generational wealth on the NYC real estate game. It's crazy what a golden opportunity that was. You see similar shyt in depressed areas around the states like Detroit and one can't help but wonder if history is repeating itself.

 

[Black Steph Curry]

I survived the 90's in St Louis.

Should make an ama