Survived Early 90s Drug Game in NYC AMA

[BigL187]

is paid in full a representation of how it was in ny back in the day ?

 

[UberEatsDriver]

It's not even snitching by people you know/connected to, informants are huge now, and they even get paid to set people up who are not in the game!

I remember it used to be a site that exposed who were informants back in the early 2000's, and I would read people who got fukked up from these people, some of the stories were straight foul. The lawyers would know the informants set people up, and they still would charge them, meanwhile the informants were getting paid. Some were still doing violence, and getting away with it. The informants would be old people, young people, different races, just anybody! One of them was getting between $500,000-$1,000,000 a year setting people up, and he was still hustling! They took that site down because they claimed it dangerous to people who may be wrongly identified. The internet was still a new thing for most people, i doubt that shyt would fly today.

Hmmm I saw a show about a drug crew in DC who used this site to catch snitcheS.

If the snitch was at a hospital they would somehow even know their room number!

 

[UberEatsDriver]

Netas are a non factor in NYC these days...but some of my older friends were wit em back in the dayz...tell us your experience with them in they hey day. along wit the kings.

How did Netas fall off? I wish none of thEse homegrown NYC sets disappeared like Decept!

 

[UberEatsDriver]

So how crazy people say the south Bronx and a lot of nyc was in the 80’s till mid 90’s wasn’t exaggerated?

He’ll no my dad has stories for days

 

[Ol’Otis]

is paid in full a representation of how it was in ny back in the day ?

@Piri Tomas

 

[eastsideTT]

And this is NY? Is y’all known for it like Cali known for weed?? Or is that Jersey or someplace?

NJ is more known for dope honestly more than NYC, bmore, philly...and in some parts in NJ they give 12-13 bags in a bundle sometimes upwards of 15. but the bags are small. NY always 10 to a bun bigger bags but its never ever 0.1 to a bag . a bun is "supposed" to be a gram but in reality, in my lifetime, it never was. i think its safe to say that 2 buns is closer to gram. in NJ they call 5 buns a "brick" but i havent heard that used in the city in my very very limited experience .

Baltimore always has the national reputation for being THE dope city but in places like Paterson and Camden thats damn near the whole economy. there is way more money, people and drugs moving through NJ than bmore. i think NJ is prob the most dope saturated area in the east coast. back in the day the big place was the LES proper and i guess what would be considered the east village (although old heads still call it the LES) like Ave A, B, C etc... those aves were dope central. parts of the LES still are to some degree but not like "it was"

i dont know anyone in NYC or NJ who gets anything but bundles no matter how much they cop. maybe at certain levels you'll get weighed powder but those are levels far beyond anyone i know moves in

someone else asked about it, about when name branded stamps got popular and became the norm. i always thought it was when dope "blew up" after Vietnam but i could be wrong

 

[broller]

@Piri Tomas

Do you ever get shook by younger hustlers today?

are you married?

Did you pay attention to the OJ Simpson verdict back in 1995?

Was Cormega known before his rap days?

 

[Piri Tomas]

is paid in full a representation of how it was in ny back in the day ?

Not really. It doesn't give you a feel for how different crews operated, the structure of the business, the game itself. It's superficial like a music video.

Plus I never knew of anyone who just fell into the drug game. Azie is working, finds drugs and by accident starts hustling out of a building. It didn't work like that. There were no accidental hustlers.

The part they got right was the cruelty of the game, the fact that everyone at the end of the day went for self, but that's not the movie that's the real story of those three guys.

It's also a bad movie... bad writing, bad acting... It just sucks in my opinion.

The best movie from or about that period in New York that captures reality to me is Hangin' with the Homeboys. Actually filmed on blocks where we hustled in the South Bronx (imagine shooting on location when it was a war zone up there), it's not about the drug game at all, it's about four friends going nowhere in life and drifting apart. It's an underrated classic. It's a hood movie without the melodrama and bullshyt, just about four average dudes who happen to be black and Puerto Rican trying to navigate a world where they don't get many chances, respect.

 

[Piri Tomas]

@Piri Tomas

Do you ever get shook by younger hustlers today?

I haven't been anywhere near the game since '96 so no, no reason to be shook by anyone.

are you married?

Yes

Did you pay attention to the OJ Simpson verdict back in 1995?

Sort of, can't say I thought much about it. It was just like every hood in America, we thought it was good to see a black man beat the White Man's system.

Was Cormega known before his rap days?

Maybe, but not in my section. NYC is big, you need to be a notorious person to have a reputation that travels past your borough.

 

[BigL187]

Not really. It doesn't give you a feel for how different crews operated, the structure of the business, the game itself. It's superficial like a music video.

Plus I never knew of anyone who just fell into the drug game. Azie is working, finds drugs and by accident starts hustling out of a building. It didn't work like that. There were no accidental hustlers.

The part they got right was the cruelty of the game, the fact that everyone at the end of the day went for self, but that's not the movie that's the real story of those three guys.

It's also a bad movie... bad writing, bad acting... It just sucks in my opinion.

The best movie from or about that period in New York that captures reality to me is Hangin' with the Homeboys. Actually filmed on blocks where we hustled in the South Bronx (imagine shooting on location when it was a war zone up there), it's not about the drug game at all, it's about four friends going nowhere in life and drifting apart. It's an underrated classic. It's a hood movie without the melodrama and bullshyt, just about four average dudes who happen to be black and Puerto Rican trying to navigate a world where they don't get many chances, respect.

just watched hangin with the homeboys and it was good and very different

 

[RicanFury]

How did Netas fall off? I wish none of thEse homegrown NYC sets disappeared like Decept!

from what i was told is that during the war between the bloods and the kings...the netas were aligned with the kings were hesitant to get involved on a full scale...after that the leadership changed and membership was open to anyone and everyone...taking in undesirables and non ricans....the Island made the call for NYC to shut down. what the island says...is what you do before you have a bowl cut rat tail rican wit no teeth at your door the next day.

 

[Sensei]

Haha okay, so you're a global hustler, got it... You happen to have fam everywhere, you were on the streets witnessing how everyone got down in every hood, okay.

Internet thugs like you crack me up. Anyone reading this dude's responses can see exactly what we as an older generation need to debunk/speak out against. This kind of posturing and fukkery... Dude deals in cliches.

Who said anything about taking over? The drug game is an ecosystem. If everyone was a boss/killer/taking over no money would be made at all. You're right, what you're describing isn't even The Wire. It's more like a 1st person shooter videogame. fukk outta here with that bullshyt.

I never hustled with Alpo, the fukk are you talking about? There were Alpos in every major city. My point was that you can't say he didn't embody the game for being a rat. You're turning it into some sort of Alpo vs. Insert West Coast gangster argument that I couldn't care less about.

The old dope crews were the framework the younger crews followed be it crack or dope. And believe it or not, some of the dudes who started back then were still around by the time crack hit. In fact some real big figures in the game.

As for extortion crews, I'm not going to keep returning to this point. Being a drug dealer did not make someone a killer and vice versa. Paying a violent crew allowed business-minded dudes with access to work to keep their hands clean. These extortion crews were like muscle for hire. There's a difference between arming your people to trade shots in the event of unforeseen circumstances (which you had to plan for) and expecting them to go out hunting for rivals. That's another skill set.

You are watching too many movies and listening to too many dishonest rappers. We all did what he had to do to survive. I keep it authentic, I never said I was a tough guy or a kingpin. I'm talking about the way it was. Go somewhere else with that hood legend "this is how real nikkas did it" nonsense.

I really got no time to back and forth with you,my whole point is that you say can not to glorify the game but then say Alpo embodied the game in the same breath.

I am not going to talk about me and what I did,I am not here to prove nothing on the net,I am just calling out your inconsistencies. I never said being a drug dealer made you a killer,what the fukk are you talking about? I said you can't be out there getting extorted by a next crew thinking there won't be more to shake you down,.None the less HOW YOU GOING TO ANSWER TO YOUR BOSS FOR LETTING SOMEONE OUTSIDE YOUR CREW EXTORT YOUR POCKETS? Common sense would tell you lying andthat would not just put you on a bad terms but be fatalistic since you got money and stash answer for.Plus you act like your boss didn't have shooters or security for your spot,what the fukk ever.

I never once came on here talking about you should hustle like this or that,or I am a hustler .Quote me. where I did fakkit,I'm speaking on your inconsistencies in your story. but I see you talking about the game being no good then speaking on people you never knew,cities you never been in,and what the younger generation went through.

You full of shyt, you can say what ever but I see through clowns like you.

Lol @ 2 week notice. No HR departments in the dope game. There was no process, I let the dude I hustled for know that I wanted to go to school and make a change. He tried to talk me out of it a little bit, but he knew my heart wasn't in it. I was good at hustling but not great. I made mistakes, wasn't the bravest dude out there. I think everyone knew I wasn't really cut from that cloth.

 

[GrindtooFilthy]

i know you said you were from harlem but did you ever have a run in with the decepticons

you ever ran across silk perry since you said you hit DC sometimes

 

[norfwestdc]

Hmmm I saw a show about a drug crew in DC who used this site to catch snitcheS.

If the snitch was at a hospital they would somehow even know their room number!

Your talking about the K street crew. They didn't use a website they broke into a police cruiser and stole police scanners. The police station is across the street from the projects. The area is so crowded police cars will park their cars in the project parking lot. The area itself isn't that bad anymore but stuff still goes on around there

 

[Piri Tomas]

just watched hangin with the homeboys and it was good and very different

I'm glad you enjoyed it. It's one of my all time favorites.