Sunday is the Lord's Day so we Pray to the Shield: 2022-2023 Official NFL Season Thread

[Canada Goose]

Bills - Ravens should be an 4:25 PM not an 1PM game

 

[klientel]

Joe Mixon is statistically one of the WOAT RBs this year. I had no idea he was doing this bad…

 

[yseJ]

I posted Kupps percentages and they’re 20% higher than Devantes 40% higher than Jefferson’s in the slot. I forgot Tyreeks. But I’ll find it. And post it

But you’re literally saying the same thing I said. It’s the scheme he plays in.

According to fo, in 2021 Reek was 70% in the slot and Kupp was 87%. 70% is still a vast majority of time


Tbh I think in this day and age a lot more teams put best receivers in the slot often to exploit matchups.

 

[Chip Skylark]

According to fo, in 2021 Reek was 70% in the slot and Kupp was 87%. 70% is still a vast majority of time


Tbh I think in this day and age a lot more teams put best receivers in the slot often to exploit matchups.

Because the scheme works. I can’t find much info on Kupp playing the X cause he rarely does but I do think he’s definitely top 5. He’s technical ability is top 5.

Devante, Jefferson, Tyreek, Kupp, Diggs are my top 5

 

[yseJ]

Because the scheme works. I can’t find much info on Kupp playing the X cause he rarely does

I don't understand what you're trying to say here. The goal of football on offense is to move the ball and score. A lot of teams put their best receives in the slot because of multiple reasons, including better matchups, less likely to be bumped off or pressed because he's not on the line, and so forth.

Saying receiver A is better than receiver B because he plays less snaps in the slot s hence pretty superficial imo.

 

[Chip Skylark]

I don't understand what you're trying to say here. The goal of football on offense is to move the ball and score. A lot of teams put their best receives in the slot because of multiple reasons, including better matchups, less likely to be bumped off or pressed because he's not on the line, and so forth.

Saying receiver A is better than receiver B because he plays less snaps in the slot s hence pretty superficial imo.

I’m literally saying that scheming reek and kupp obviously works. A lot of teams put their best X there but not as much as reek and especially not as much as Kupp. I quoted someone saying Kupp has a wide gap between him and someone else which isn’t the cause.

No it’s not superficial because gauging how he compares to other top WR who play the X more you can see who actually accomplishes more at that position also, but there’s no info on it. Kupp is rarely lined up against the best defensive backs so he sees more LBs and safety’s more than any other top WR.

 

[yseJ]

I’m literally saying that scheming reek and kupp obviously works. A lot of teams put their best X there but not as much as reek and especially not as much as Kupp. I quoted someone saying Kupp has a wide gap between him and someone else which isn’t the cause.

No it’s not superficial because gauging how he compares to other top WR who play the X more you can see who actually accomplishes more at that position also, but there’s no info on it. Kupp is rarely lined up against the best defensive backs so he sees more LBs and safety’s more than any other top WR.

You saying "scheming works" is what I don't get. Don't all teams want the best possible match up? If it was as easy as always getting a LB and safety (considering in this day and age many if not most teams have designated nickel corners who play exclusively slot) vs a slot receiver wouldn't you always want your best guy in there? Wouldn't you want Adams or AJ Brown on a safety or LB too? Wouldn't all teams do it then and put their best receiver where its actually the easiest matchup?


Unless you're claiming that great WRs who don't play slot often do it because they present a mismatch for outside corners the same way as those who do play in slot do for lbs and safeties.... but that is clearly absurd. Like I've said, any great wr benefits against LB or safety coverage.

 

[OGBobbyJohnson]

 

[duncanthetall]

there is a gap between Kupp and the rest of the rest of the WRs in the NFL and it’s sizable

You can take JJ, Chase, and even Davante (to a certain extent) out of the game or severely limit them if you commit to stopping them and sacrifice other parts of the field.

But that’s not possible against Kupp. You can double him, triple him, bracket him, shade him….doesn’t matter. He still beats it.

In the case of Chase, as we saw last night, if you take away his go route he doesn’t have the route tree to punish you in other ways.

Kupp is like 7 years older than JJ and Chase lmao. What was Kupp doing at 22? He ain’t figure his shyt out till 2 years ago.

 

[duncanthetall]

False

nikka think he slick with his hating. Always talkin bout the Bengals

 

[klientel]

Kupp is like 7 years older than JJ and Chase lmao. What was Kupp doing at 22? He ain’t figure his shyt out till 2 years ago.

What does the age of Chase and JJ have to do with anything? If people are talking about them being elite WRs, then it’s fair to compare them

Right now Kupp is the best WR. Will that change next year or in the next 3 years, I don’t know….maybe so. But right now, today, he’s the best in the NFL.

 

[klientel]

I’m literally saying that scheming reek and kupp obviously works. A lot of teams put their best X there but not as much as reek and especially not as much as Kupp. I quoted someone saying Kupp has a wide gap between him and someone else which isn’t the cause.

No it’s not superficial because gauging how he compares to other top WR who play the X more you can see who actually accomplishes more at that position also, but there’s no info on it. Kupp is rarely lined up against the best defensive backs so he sees more LBs and safety’s more than any other top WR.

Last season Kupp was the highest graded WR against man coverage and that included #1 corners traveling on him.

You think NFL teams who watch 1000s of hours of film every year never thought to put their best corner on him lol? It’s not that simple and that clearly doesn’t work.

 

[Chip Skylark]

Last season Kupp was the highest graded WR against man coverage and that included #1 corners traveling on him.

You think NFL teams who watch 1000s of hours of film every year never thought to put their best corner on him lol? It’s not that simple and that clearly doesn’t work.

Name me these #1 corners traveling with him. Seriously. Every game the best corner isn’t always on him.

9/15 targets against the bills were against LBs and safety’s.once again he’s being schemed so that he doesn’t face them. How often did he face AJ Terrell against the falcons?

Cooper last year spent 87% of his time in the slot. Teams best corners rarely spend time playing slot corner. A few do, but as of 2018 teams literally pay specific guys to play the slot. The rams who have Jalen have David Long play slot and is a higher graded slot corner than Jalen though he still play it at times.

McVay specifically said he created mismatches for Kupp. Kupp had 1940 yds 1400 came from the slot 57% were from LBs and safeties the rest from slot corners. Most best corners are playing the x few lineup in the slot and not for 87% of the time.

Kupp is top 5. But it’s not some large gap. At this point no amount of anything will deter what you think.

Be easy and blessed

 

[Chip Skylark]

 

[I AM WE ARE]

Aka let's cover our asses by throwing someone under the bus. There were whispers of criminal charges