Suge Knight:"Dr.Dre & Snoop Dogg's Jealousy Of Tupac Is What fukked Up Deathrow Records"

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Snoop was trying to deescalate the beef by reaching out to Big and Diddy. I wouldn’t call that being a snake. Snoop had just beat a murder case. He wasn’t feeling like dealing with Pac’s drama.
Exactly…..spliz expected snoop to jump into the fire with pacs beef and get caught up in another man’s mess after just getting out of his own mess(murder case ) himself ….. ultimately we all can debate all day but the bottom line is dre and snoop did the best thing and they still living a good life well into there 50s enjoying there money …. Same can’t be said for pac and suge…. What’s crazy is a 10 second fight or so with baby lane caused such a domino effect … fact is the minute that fight was over … we know pac died as a result but the scarier thing is that changed suges life n it was never the same and he had a downward spiral ever since that night …. Crazy to think what a little brawl that lasted seconds changed the course of hiphop if we been real …
 
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Snoop was trying to deescalate the beef by reaching out to Big and Diddy. I wouldn’t call that being a snake. Snoop had just beat a murder case. He wasn’t feeling like dealing with Pac’s drama.
Snoop had a song on Big Dre’s (who allegedly was the real killer according to some people) project and hung out with Haitian Jack.

Anyways, Snoop being jealous is one thing but Suge ultimately has to put the blame on himself.
 

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This …. Pac sped up the demise of deathrow … it was gona come crashing down anyway with how suge was moving but pac at that particular time sped the demise of deathrow…. What’s weird is Tupac the artist and the music he made on deathrow was classic and brought the label to another level on the music side …but pac the person as far as outside the music including his beefs , his easily influenced and his bad duo with suge was the worst thing to happen to deathrow which is why they only lasted 11 months together side by side … what pac needed was someone with real guidance not a clown like suge who influenced him even further down a path of chaos

Pac should have had a J. Prince or a Master P to guide him
 

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Snoop been known to be a bitter hoe and Dre been called out as bytch made by basically any real nikka that's known him so iono how you cats over here are talkin bout Suge lyin

if those hoe ass nikkas took the backseat like they was pose to and let Pac shine, Death Row had at least 5 more years on top

instead what they do

Dre locked himself in his mansion, dropped a weedplate with a bunch of nonames and started a label that nobody gave a shyt about, that shyt and The Firm only went platinum which is like double plastic in the 90s

Snoop went to suck down south dikk rappin with a bunch of No Limit nikkas that could barely form coherent sentences

fools was strugglin

then in 99 when the coast was clear and it was finally safe those two bytches crawled out again like roaches to take the spotlight

Mr. "Been There Done That" Mr. "I'm above this east/west shyt", Mr. "I'm not making no more gangsta rap" started talkin that gansta shyt again in his super thug pose with Snoop's crooked wave riding trend hopping hoe ass right next to him

shyt is hilarious in retrospect :mjlol:


Pac dead and Suge locked up

Dre and Snoop did the right thing by leaving
 

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Spliz …. Snoop was 1 ov the biggest factors in making deathrow what it was before pac went there ….he is a huge part in building that house …. Of course it makes sense if pac had just came to the label was getting al these things and snoop is seeing that he’s gona feel some type of way …. If I recall spliz … suge even told pac at 1 point since pac was trying to boss is way around deathrow on some disrespectful tip and suge even sensed it n told pac to respect snoop since he build deathrow which is true back to your point tho …. It makes perfect sense spliz that pac and snoop get everything each other gets …. They both were great factors In what deathrow became ….
Did Warren G get everything Snoop got? Did Daz? Did DOC? Come on son. Suge literally JUST saved Snoop’s life with that murder case. Pac came there and NEEDED help based on his situation. Pac had better work ethic than everyone on that label and that’s facts. Of course Suge gonna get Pac a car when he first gets out of jail. Of course Suge gonna get Pac a spot fresh out. Come on fam. Snoop should’ve understood that shyt.
 

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Exactly…..spliz expected snoop to jump into the fire with pacs beef and get caught up in another man’s mess after just getting out of his own mess(murder case ) himself ….. ultimately we all can debate all day but the bottom line is dre and snoop did the best thing and they still living a good life well into there 50s enjoying there money …. Same can’t be said for pac and suge…. What’s crazy is a 10 second fight or so with baby lane caused such a domino effect … fact is the minute that fight was over … we know pac died as a result but the scarier thing is that changed suges life n it was never the same and he had a downward spiral ever since that night …. Crazy to think what a little brawl that lasted seconds changed the course of hiphop if we been real …
:what: nikka I ain’t expect Snoop to do shyt. Look. Pac was there for Snoop during the trial. Snoop had his OWN issues with Biggie that had nothing to do with Pac. Snoop could SPOKE UP. But instead he played both sides. nikka was acting like he wanted to beef with Biggie then turn around on some other shyt. nikka STILL lying to this day. Y’all nikkas act willfully ignorant and don’t argue in good faith I’m honestly done with this whole shyt cause it’s a joke. This has been broken down and spoken about for literal years and y’all still act like y’all don’t know no better cause none of y’all care about the facts anyway. U and anyone who dapped u.
 

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Did Warren G get everything Snoop got? Did Daz? Did DOC? Come on son. Suge literally JUST saved Snoop’s life with that murder case. Pac came there and NEEDED help based on his situation. Pac had better work ethic than everyone on that label and that’s facts. Of course Suge gonna get Pac a car when he first gets out of jail. Of course Suge gonna get Pac a spot fresh out. Come on fam. Snoop should’ve understood that shyt.
I said they both should be getting everything equal spliz …. yeah pacs work ethic was crazy bettter then everyone at deathrow we know this ….. but snoop still was a major factor in what deathrow was before pac arrived ….
 

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:what: nikka I ain’t expect Snoop to do shyt. Look. Pac was there for Snoop during the trial. Snoop had his OWN issues with Biggie that had nothing to do with Pac. Snoop could SPOKE UP. But instead he played both sides. nikka was acting like he wanted to beef with Biggie then turn around on some other shyt. nikka STILL lying to this day. Y’all nikkas act willfully ignorant and don’t argue in good faith I’m honestly done with this whole shyt cause it’s a joke. This has been broken down and spoken about for literal years and y’all still act like y’all don’t know no better cause none of y’all care about the facts anyway. U and anyone who dapped u.
…. I will say this … fair enough it did come across at times like snoop was playing both sides …. this is what I think happened …just my opinion…. Snoop n them thought this whole east vs west , deathrow vs badboy thing at first from there end was gona be some lyrical mc battle type shyt … soon as he realised it wasn’t when the (nyny trailor shooting ) happened.. that’s when I think snoop n them waved the white flag …… in interviews with pac or just little comments he would briefly say am down with the home team etc but never really go into much detail … that’s just my opinion …what snoop should have done is tell pac n them straight from the get go he just beat a murder case and didn’t want to be involved… instead he never really said much n let it seem like he was on his side …..that’s the fault snoop plays in his role of some ppl calling him snake … but at the end of the day spliz pac was to hard head n couldn’t be told anything at that point …
 
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Dr Dre wasn’t jealous of Tupac he was jealous that Suge Knight owned all of Dre’s Masters and Publishing


Snoop wasn’t jealous of Tupac he was trying to play nice with EVERYBODY when he was fighting his OWN murder charges and didn’t have time to coddle Pac’s feelings regarding Biggie and Puff



If anyone was “jealous” of Pac in the situation it was probably Suge himself. Pac had enough power that if he left Death Row to do his own thing it very well might have been the end of the label. Dre was gone no matter what. Snoop would’ve eventually left no matter what. Suge and Puffy were two sides of the same coin when it came to mistreating their artists Puffy was just allowed to slide in public for so long because he adopted the “Fun partier” persona.


Tupac got himself killed trying to play gangsta and Suge saw his label and legacy crumble because he couldn’t transition from BEING gangsta. Suge is right where he belongs and Snoop and Dre are right where THEY belong.
 

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Dr Dre wasn’t jealous of Tupac he was jealous that Suge Knight owned all of Dre’s Masters and Publishing


Snoop wasn’t jealous of Tupac he was trying to play nice with EVERYBODY when he was fighting his OWN murder charges and didn’t have time to coddle Pac’s feelings regarding Biggie and Puff



If anyone was “jealous” of Pac in the situation it was probably Suge himself. Pac had enough power that if he left Death Row to do his own thing it very well might have been the end of the label. Dre was gone no matter what. Snoop would’ve eventually left no matter what. Suge and Puffy were two sides of the same coin when it came to mistreating their artists Puffy was just allowed to slide in public for so long because he adopted the “Fun partier” persona.


Tupac got himself killed trying to play gangsta and Suge saw his label and legacy crumble because he couldn’t transition from BEING gangsta. Suge is right where he belongs and Snoop and Dre are right where THEY belong.
To say Pac died trying to play gangster is a lazy take, dude.

Im sure you know the beef he had with bad boy. The info Pac had on puffy knowing something was gonna go down at Quad. You know they put out who shot ya to fukk with Pac.

He put hands on Orlando because he knew they was down with bad boy, and they knew about the bounty put on the death row chain by puffy.

It's not playing gangster, it's standing up for what you believe in
 
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