Stop calling my culture "Hip-Hop"

[Juneya]

How is stating differences in vocal inflection and approach "divide and conquer" if the history is acknowledged?
white folk called us ******s and we say nikka now. Don't you say nikka? Now think about that.

That is "hip hop"
Using words and appropriating them to our culture.
I say nikka proudly, like I said, I'm aware of my culture...
This ain't my language... It's my culture to perform language ARTS
nikka is an example of that.

Only problem is... So much of what makes hip hop, is repeated throughout the diaspora and throughout our history. Not just now and 1970. But so much of what we do in hip hop. The slaves and their descendants did all over the world throughout history.

But nikkas was told they was special. And now they walk around putting other nikkas down like they ain't as good as them....


But fukk you dumb nikkas, you really the WORSE of us all

 

[BmoreGorilla]

Not saying that... But your saying breakbeats didn't exist before "hip-hop"?
Rapping over the break beats is an action, it's not a culture.

But the culture started with rapping over break beats

Edit. Lemme correct myself. DJs were doing break beats before MCs rapped over them. The break beat is the foundation

 

[Juneya]

But the culture started with rapping over break beats

Edit. Lemme correct myself. DJs were doing break beats before MCs rapped over them. The break beat is the foundation

What exactly started with rapping over break beats? They were already rapping over instrumentals?

 

[mobbinfms]

But the culture started with rapping over break beats

Edit. Lemme correct myself. DJs were doing break beats before MCs rapped over them. The break beat is the foundation

That's basically the key innovation right there. @Juneya you got receipts that that was happening in the Carribean or Miami before NYC? Since you said it was common knowledge.

 

[mobbinfms]

What exactly started with rapping over break beats? They were already rapping over instrumentals?

Let's stick to the topic. You claimed that rhyming over breakbeats was happening in the Carribean and Miami before NYC. Receipts?

 

[BmoreGorilla]

What exactly started with rapping over break beats? They were already rapping over instrumentals?

Check the edit.

 

[Juneya]

That's basically the key innovation right there. @Juneya you got receipts that that was happening in the Carribean or Miami before NYC? Since you said it was common knowledge.

You didnt see the post about jamaican selectors finding instrumentals for the mc to be able to rhyme over whole songs

The scratching of the record? Makes the culture a culture?

Im losing what we are arguing here. Hip hop in the 70's 80's. As a culture? What makes hip hop music different from rap music?

cause if timing is the issue cant we say that comes from cuban music? Which they have traced back to africa.

 

[Juneya]

Let's stick to the topic. You claimed that rhyming over breakbeats was happening in the Carribean and Miami before NYC. Receipts?

Im sticking to the topic very much.
I personally think you missed a post or two. I didnt tag you, so maybe you missed it

 

[The_King_of_Everything]

OP mad as hell this early on a saturday morning?

muthafukkas losing sleep over hip hop instead of asleep next to a nice sidepiece is whats poppin these days?

That's the first thing I thought too lol

 

[Juneya]

That's the first thing I thought too lol

Why are we on this board?
Why are you in this thread?

Your a repeat offender bytch nikka... What the fukk do you want fakkit?

 

[The_King_of_Everything]

Why are we on this board?
Why are you in this thread?

Your a repeat offender bytch nikka... What the fukk do you want fakkit?

Good googly moogly.

You need to take a nap or something or get something to eat maybe you're "Hangry".

All this hostility

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

@Juneya Grand wizard theodore invented the scratch...Breakbeat matching existed beforehand.
Where were people repeating breakbeat loops using two turntables in the Caribbean or South?

 

[IllmaticDelta]

If juneya's point is that many of the things that's now regarded as HipHop was already in play before it was tagged "HipHop"? He's correct. The only thing that was born specifically within what we now know as "HipHop" is bboying and that has roots in dances that pre-date bboying. It was in the mid to late 70's when the 4 elements (rap, bboy,djing,graf) became a unified culture.

 

[Juneya]

Good googly moogly.

You need to take a nap or something or get something to eat maybe you're "Hangry".

All this hostility

Grown men are talking.

 

[Juneya]

If juneya's point is that many of the things that's now regarded as HipHop was already in play before it was tagged "HipHop"? He's correct. The only thing that was born specifically within what we now know as "HipHop" is boyying and that roots dances that pre-date bboying. It was in the mid tolate 70's when the 4 elements (rap, bboy,djing,graf) because a unified culture.

Competive dance between africans existed before hip hop