Stop calling my culture "Hip-Hop"

[Hamza B.]

This is false

So b-boying, looping breakbeats from different genres, graffiti on subways, and park jams all culminated together somewhere other than 1970'S BRONX, NYC?

 

[Juneya]

So b-boying, looping breakbeats from different genres, graffiti on subways, and park jams all culminated together somewhere other than 1970'S BRONX, NYC?

Bboying: competitive dance. Happens almost everywhere the African was taken. But it is extremely similar to the ancient fight dance of Capoeria in Brazil's .

Looping breakbeats: started in Jamaica.

Graffiti: art? Yes Africans made art everywhere they went. Just because you urbanized it doesn't make it a different act

Park Jams: definitely part of black culture to come together and dance. Once a week. The club. The Congo square in NO. Haiti vodou ceremonies. Social clubs in Cuba.

Even gang lifestyle: is an cultural thing that predates the USA by hundreds of years.


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[Juneya]

So b-boying, looping breakbeats from different genres, graffiti on subways, and park jams all culminated together somewhere other than 1970'S BRONX, NYC?

Dancing, Art, Music, and coming together as a group to make it all happen.

Are characteristics of African culture. Not hip hop.

 

[SAJ!!]

You need to learn about the conga square and the birth off jazz music.

I know my musical history. Don't play that card.

 

[Juneya]

@Juneya
B-boying is a form of hip hop dance made from many dance styles and heavily influenced by the martial arts. The only other form of dance like that is Capoeira...and Brazil had no cultural influence on 80s NYC.

I missed this. You not that stupid.

Capoeira is just like break dancing. And capoeira is African.

 

[SAJ!!]

YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT. STOP MAKING YOURSELF LOOK STUPID AT MY EXPENSE. LMAO.

I AM NOT HERE TO MAKE YOU LOOK DUMB LMAO

please stop making comments until you READ sumn... ANYTHIG

Sounds like to me that you're doing a good job making yourself look foolish at your own expense.

 

[Juneya]

i watched a documentary about the Gullah people in the deep south, and one thing that stood out was how some of their vernacular, which was west african derived, we still use today. i.e., "good-good", and "gwinnin" - both often used in rap.

Word bruh.
Even The church's in South Carolina, Georgia, and Mississippi still practice a lot of African rituals... Just a lot of confusion in my opinion, due to e fact we hid so much culture in the church. Another thread for the church part tho.

 

[Juneya]

Yo - I only had the patience to read page one...and there only should have been one page.

My favorite part is when @ODOT META called dude a "bamma", and he responded with "i'm not from Alabama".

That should have told everyone all they needed to know.

The reason you don't know shyt and believe NYC invented your culture is becaus your too stupid to read more than one page.

Gump and Bama are actual places. So if it is meant to be disrespectful. It was. Cause I'm from Atlanta. Lol.

But not ashamed of being from the south. Proud of it actually.

Calling me a Bama and a grump is exactly why I made the thread. You self hating ass NYC nikkas don't know history and love the white man more than you love yourself.

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

I missed this. You not that stupid.

Capoeira is just like break dancing. And capoeira is African.

There was no cross cultural contact between Brazil brehs and Black NYC brehs.
People didn't even listen to reggae, let alone brazilian music.
Brehs got those moves from "inside the ancestral space" and Kung Fu movies.
Martial arts did that.
Oh, and american boxing is a black martial art. Look at the footwork that didn't exist when cacs were "bare knuckle brawling"...
we just got it in us. Capoeira has a lot of moves that LOOK like b-boying or footwork but it's not. It's a martial art hidden in dance.

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

The reason you don't know shyt and believe NYC invented your culture is becaus your too stupid to read more than one page.

Gump and Bama are actual places. So if it is meant to be disrespectful. It was. Cause I'm from Atlanta. Lol.

But not ashamed of being from the south. Proud of it actually.

Calling me a Bama and a grump is exactly why I made the thread. You self hating ass NYC nikkas don't know history and love the white man more than you love yourself.

A GUMP = A lame.
A Bamma = A LAME.
Why don't you kick it in other places black people live? Did you know the north had more cities than NYC? The north truly starts in Northern VA, tbqh.

 

[Juneya]

You, sir... need to get the fukk out of this HIP HOP community website then. Hip hop is a LIFESTYLE. And if you fail to understand that. Then you truly do not understand black culture as a whole.

I do understand that sir.
That is why my lifestyle has nothing to do with spinning on my head and spray painting public transportation. I ain't that type of c00n.

Since my lifestyle has nothing to do with spinning on my head and wearing fake gold chains......... Please stop calling it hip hop....

Spinning on your head. And wearing fake rope chains.... Is dead... Like hip hop. But my culture..... IS STRONGER THAN EVER

 

[Juneya]

There was no cross cultural contact between Brazil brehs and Black NYC brehs.
People didn't even listen to reggae, let alone brazilian music.
Brehs got those moves from "inside the ancestral space" and Kung Fu movies.
Martial arts did that.
Oh, and american boxing is a black martial art. Look at the footwork that didn't exist when cacs were "bare knuckle brawling"...
we just got it in us. Capoeira has a lot of moves that LOOK like b-boying or footwork but it's not. It's a martial art hidden in dance.

This ain't true bruh. For one.
It's culture that predates slavery... The cross cultural contact could have been the boat. And that is enough.

Or a nikka coulda had a passport. Or a white man could have had one. You can't prove it never happen.

Then the fact that it's just in us... Is partially my point.
There doesn't have to be contact for culture to appropriate and for us to do what is in us to do.

There is no cross cultural religious contact between the Haitian and the USA slaves... But Haitian vodou spirit riding is spookily similar to catch the Holy Ghost in the southern baptist church. It's just in us.

 

[Juneya]

A GUMP = A lame.
A Bamma = A LAME.
Why don't you kick it in other places black people live? Did you know the north had more cities than NYC? The north truly starts in Northern VA, tbqh.

I am pretty well traveled bruh. I hang with black people outside of America too.
Which is where a lot this came from

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

I am pretty well traveled bruh. I hang with black people outside of America too.
Which is where a lot this came from

I live outside of America.

 

[Juneya]

I live outside of America.

Did they take slaves where you are?
If so... Would you say you don't see any cultural similarities that are not connected to "hip hop"