Stop calling my culture "Hip-Hop"

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You JUST MENTIONED ME....
Replying to you is mentioning you :heh:

I don't think I've ever @ed you in your life breh please.

You are a walking caricature of a down south rap fan.... slow, self important, still bitter about NYC's dominance even though it ended years ago.... nobody calls rap hip hop anymore, some dusty NYC old head got u tite :mjlol:
 

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I agree with OP's point about not being divisive. We need to on some real live "conglomerate" type shyt (no Busta) if we wanna survive this beast called white supremacy.

That being said, he kind of contradicts himself when he starts his thread off talking about "Dumb ass new yourk nikkas". Even worse he totally skips over the West Coast which gave the south a style and they ran with it. But ima let you finish, don't forget to listen to Born To Mack while you flaming nikkas in this troll thread :mjlol:
 

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BMF was in OHIO before they were in GA...How do I know this? My nikka was a part of that.

America's Most-Wanted Suspect Found Dead In DeKalb Jail

RIP umoja...he'd rather die than snitch.
Your city is also full of OG snitches that can't hold water in the federal system. You had a little respect for my brain? I had none for that p*ssyhole above your neck. I always thought you were slow and mad. Your city makes kid music for grown ass men and they've been known for that forever.
What is TRAP MUSIC? Oh, some memphis shyt.
What is CRUNK MUSIC? Oh, some memphis shyt.
What is BASS MUSIC? Oh, some miami/bmore shyt.
What is Atlanta rap: A combination of rejected 80s NYC electro beats combined with Miami bass for one era.
Fake California synthesizer music for another.
Fake Dipset Music with a southern accent for YET ANOTHER.

RIP Pimp C. shyt all over y'all's college town full of middle class wannabes. "got dreadlocks and backpacks w/ one leg up"...
Remember Apache Cafe? I DO!
Remember Jugga the Bully? I DO!

I'm older than you and I know more about that p*ssyhole you claim with pride. Now go be a Detroit nikka's worker.
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We can only go off our oral history, when you ask the likes of kool Herc who were partipating in what we now now as hip hop since 1967 he will tell you MCing was birthed out of toasting.

He brought that from Kingston Jamaica to 1520 sedgewick avenue in the Bronx and what he did within spread through the borough.

:dwillhuh: herc has never said such a thing

From Herc's own mouth:

Herc’s quote in the book “Hip Hop: The Illustrated History of Break Dancing, Rap Music, and Graffiti” by Steven Hager (1984) suggests that there is no connection…


Kool Herc: “Jamaican toasting? Naw, naw. No connection there. I couldn’t play reggae in the Bronx. People wouldn’t accept it. The inspiration for rap is James Brown and the album Hustler’s Convention.”
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(alot of misinformation in the article below but the herc quote is there)


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Founding Fathers Documentary: Hip Hop Did Not Start in the Bronx


These were thr mobile soundsystems that FIRST MADE AN impression on west indian selectors like Herc..Bam and Flash...
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To be sure, there were all kinds of mobile jocks in New York in the early 70′s. Hands down, no questions. I’ve always asked the Bronx cats that I’ve interviewed this one important question, “Yo, what impact did the Jamaican sound systems have on ya’ll?”

Everybody from Toney Tone to Kool Herc to Bambaataa said: “None, none at all. They weren’t a part of our thing. They did their own thing.”
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The one time I interviewed Kool Herc I asked him about the Jamaican sound systems in the Bronx and he acknowledged knowing a few of them, but said that they had no influence or impact whatsoever.

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Founding Fathers Documentary: Hip Hop Did Not Start in the Bronx - Hip-Hop and Politics




You won't find anyone with a claim to talking over beats in style that it's done in hip hop prior to 1967
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The first straight out modern hiphop sounding song musically and vocally is from the USA in Pigmeat Markham





Herc INVENTED extending the break which is the foundation of the music till this day.
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actually no


Getting back to Herc, his biggest contribution is that he, by observing his crowd getting hyped to the "get down" parts of the Funk records was the first DJ to initiate only going to those parts of the records. As I noted before, he was not the first to play or discover the "break" parts of the records considering we know for a fact that Disco Dj's were already doing this. The difference between the two was the Disco crowd liked the break parts but wanted to hear the entire song while the Herc crowd only wanted to hear the break parts. Read below

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Now to get to when a true HipHop Dj'ing style emerged you have to go back to the Disco connection. One thing about Herc as you can read in the last paragraph in the article above, is that he had no real Djing skills in the Disco/modern sense. He didn't know anything about blending and beat matching. Read below..


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And he was EMCEEING the way they toasted in Jamaica. You gotta respect what the pioneers say fam
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Herc actually wasn't saying anything.That was Coke La Rock and neither were rapping in the modern sense

go to 3:00 mins into the video below to hear herc's take on how mcing or rapping started




@ 22:43 in this video, Herc gives an example of what Coke La Rock and himself were doing on the mic. If you notice, it' freelanced with no actual syncopated rhyming going on




interview with Caz confirming everything I said....

1. There were no rappers in the modern sense in the Kool Herc scene inn the early days HipHop

2. Coke La Rock was the one talking on the mic not Herc and neither of them rapped in the modern sense. He did shout outs/freelance talking

3. Dj Hollywood was the only one rapping in the modern sense back then


@ 3:19



@ 4:43

"Dj Hollywood was thee blueprint for the syncopated style"

:sas2:
 
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:dwillhuh: herc has never said such a thing

From Herc's own mouth:

Herc’s quote in the book “Hip Hop: The Illustrated History of Break Dancing, Rap Music, and Graffiti” by Steven Hager (1984) suggests that there is no connection…




(alot of misinformation in the article below but the herc quote is there)


Qk3pdTp.jpg








Founding Fathers Documentary: Hip Hop Did Not Start in the Bronx




Founding Fathers Documentary: Hip Hop Did Not Start in the Bronx - Hip-Hop and Politics






The first straight out modern hiphop sounding song musically and vocally is from the USA in Pigmeat Markham







actually no


Getting back to Herc, his biggest contribution is that he, by observing his crowd getting hyped to the "get down" parts of the Funk records was the first DJ to initiate only going to those parts of the records. As I noted before, he was not the first to play or discover the "break" parts of the records considering we know for a fact that Disco Dj's were already doing this. The difference between the two was the Disco crowd liked the break parts but wanted to hear the entire song while the Herc crowd only wanted to hear the break parts. Read below

wguWax5.png



.
.
Now to get to when a true HipHop Dj'ing style emerged you have to go back to the Disco connection. One thing about Herc as you can read in the last paragraph in the article above, is that he had no real Djing skills in the Disco/modern sense. He didn't no anything about blending and beat matching. Read below..


8yq5yqZ.jpg











Herc actually wasn't saying anything.That was Coke La Rock and neither were rapping in the modern sense

go to 3:00 mins into the video below to hear herc's take on how mcing or rapping started




@ 22:43 in this video, Herc gives an example of what Coke La Rock and himself were doing on the mic. If you notice, it' freelanced with no actual syncopated rhyming going on




interview with Caz confirming everything I said....

1. There were no rappers in the modern sense in the Kool Herc scene inn the early days HipHop

2. Coke La Rock was the one talking on the mic not Herc and neither of them rapped in the modern sense. He did shout outs/freelance talking

3. Dj Hollywood was the only one rapping in the modern sense back then


@ 3:19



@ 4:43

"Dj Hollywood was thee blueprint for the syncopated style"

:sas2:

Another flat out amazing post.
 

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y'all nikkas are a drug distribution hub for Detroit, LA, and NY...not profiting.
Y'all nikkas let BMF (DETROIT) run through that bytch with zero consequences.
Can an Atlanta nikka do that in ANY midwest city? Not even COLUMBUS, nikka.
RIP PHILANT.
OHIO AIN'T GAWGA...lolololol....Had TI singing songs w/ cacs missing his dead homie
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Wow,filthy,it smells like prostitution in here
 
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