Stop calling my culture "Hip-Hop"

IllmaticDelta

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There's a lot to address here, was flowers before Herc?

easily before herc as was pete dj jones.They go back to the late 1960's.





Who was before Herc when it comes extending segments of records so nikkas could talk over them? If it wasn't Herc then I'll give it to you

Herc never did that for people to rap in the Bronx because Rapping in the Bronx was the last element more towards to later 70's. Before,that dudes in the Bronx like Coke La Rock would just do radom/freelanced shout outs over the music.The Disco Dj's did a less percussive form of it though before the Bronx. Dj Hollywood talks about in this interview with Ice T

Ice-T Final Level Podcast: DJ Hollywood Story From Harlem to The Bronx
 

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black culture existed and flourished in a similar manner that it does today, minus the money, before white people called it hip hop and started raping them dumb ass New York nikkas for every part of their culture...

Hip hop is the name white people gave black culture in New York as they started to commercialize it.

Hip hop is the name of the subgroup of blacks in NYC that made no money. And sold their soul.


HIP HOP can suck my dikk. nikkas rapped, appropriated language, and appropriated clothing way before New York in the 80s.... All over the new world...

So stop calling all black music hip hop... Then pretend like it's one New York gift to black people. It's not.. The New York gift was getting raped by the white man all over again...

Everybody raps. Black culture is strongest in the south

You, sir... need to get the fukk out of this HIP HOP community website then. Hip hop is a LIFESTYLE. And if you fail to understand that. Then you truly do not understand black culture as a whole.
 

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this thread is the equivalent of saying that because cheese, dough and tomato sauce existed for hundreds of years, that the people who later took those ingredients and invented pizza didnt do anything new and that people who enjoy deep dish (the equivalent of trap) shouldn't call what they eat 'pizza' even tho deep dish is a direct descendant.

Hip hop was a very specific cultural and artistic revolution that happened to influence most things that came after it. Not everything, but certainly every 'sub-genre' of music we talk about in the booth. You don't have to call it hiphop but its heavily laced in hiphop whether you like it or not. The music most people in the booth listen to today is heavily laced in hiphop the way rock n roll and soul was laced in the blues. It is what it is:manny:
 

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black culture existed and flourished in a similar manner that it does today, minus the money, before white people called it hip hop and started raping them dumb ass New York nikkas for every part of their culture...

Hip hop is the name white people gave black culture in New York as they started to commercialize it.

Hip hop is the name of the subgroup of blacks in NYC that made no money. And sold their soul.


HIP HOP can suck my dikk. nikkas rapped, appropriated language, and appropriated clothing way before New York in the 80s.... All over the new world...

So stop calling all black music hip hop... Then pretend like it's one New York gift to black people. It's not.. The New York gift was getting raped by the white man all over again...

Everybody raps. Black culture is strongest in the south

Nikka shut the Fukk up with your fakkit ass talking. You bytch ass anti-NY Nikkas get on my nerve. We put social consciousness in our raps when Hip-hop was forming. And you bytch ass fakkits responded with Laffy taffy and the whisper song. I'm suppose to believe the region that created

1) Young thug
2) D4l
3) The Crunk Movement
4) Gucci Mane
5) And ring tone raps

Are a representation of black culture? GTFOHWTBS!!

Nikkas still talk like slavery ended last week and Shyt.


Fakkit Nikka acting like the Harlem Renissance, didn't exist in NYC. Acting like that wasn't apart of black culture.
 

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Also, people need to understand that even when other elements that make up hip hop CULTURE are from different cultures, different regions, predate hip hop culture.... that element BY ITSELF is not hip hop. To make up something into a full fledge CULTURE, it has to combine all the elements together and make it as your lifestyle. So, graffiti, breakin', emceeing, and DJ-ing, along with slang, street fashion, and the rebellious nature overall aren't what hop hop is when separate. You got a lot of rappers that aren't hip hop at all, but if you put all of those together and how it now EVOLVED 40 years later...it is its own culture.

I ask y'all this, what is "black culture" and how can you separate that from AFRICAN CULTURE which all of this is rooted from?
 

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I'm suppose to believe the region that created

1) Young thug
2) D4l
3) The Crunk Movement
4) Gucci Mane
5) And ring tone raps

Are a representation of black culture? GTFOHWTBS!!

Nikkas still talk like slavery ended last week and Shyt.



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:comeon:

that region you speak of is the root to all american culture from a black POV and a good portion of white american culture.


 

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:comeon:

that region you speak of is the root to all american culture from a black POV and a good portion of white american culture.




Fair enough, but to blame us NY'ers like we the problem here?:martin: I can't and won't accept that.
 
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